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If you are not careful...you will fail. This isn't BS.

The culture is different, working attitude is different...

You could hire SGS to do the ground work but once they are off, you will be on your own.

From the looks of it, you tend to be more on the management side of things instead off doing the learning curve.

If your plan is to retire then why all this commitment to do such big investment ? If you fail it won't be retirement anymore.

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If you are not careful...you will fail. This isn't BS.

The culture is different, working attitude is different...

You could hire SGS to do the ground work but once they are off, you will be on your own.

From the looks of it, you tend to be more on the management side of things instead off doing the learning curve.

If your plan is to retire then why all this commitment to do such big investment ? If you fail it won't be retirement anymore.

I don't think its a such a big investment compare to US. And of course I am not planning to invest all my savings.its just a portion of it. it will be hobby for me because I always wanted to have a farm but it's a such a big investment in the US and so many regulations,so much overhead. This way I will satisfy my self and also it will be a employment opportunities for my fiancé's family.As you know Thai families are so large.There are pig farm and fish farm workers in the family so finding right employees is not a problem.Problem is they only know how to work.They are not any help about finding right land and wholesalers. Thanks.

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That's how it should be... I started with 10'000...

Just think about it, I'm not the only one doing 500'000. You need to get a queue number for harvest...

I just want to rent or long term lease the 40 rai for the future use. That doesn't mean I will start with 35 ponds and 4 million fishes. I have read some posts on other forums from few farmers who harvest 2 or 3 million fishes in a year but their posts were about year old so i assume they don't log in since I never got a reply. Or they don't want to give any info for not to have competition.

I know people who are harvesting 5 million and 8 million catfishes per year in the northern region, all selling to the local market. But when hit-the-fan.gif ...supply and demand slows down, they are stuck. Force to sell at a loss due to over size, owners almost went mad. crazy.gif

I'm doing 1.5 million per year (500'00 x 3 season)... Sabai Sabai ~~~

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If you are not careful...you will fail. This isn't BS.

The culture is different, working attitude is different...

You could hire SGS to do the ground work but once they are off, you will be on your own.

From the looks of it, you tend to be more on the management side of things instead off doing the learning curve.

If your plan is to retire then why all this commitment to do such big investment ? If you fail it won't be retirement anymore.

I don't think its a such a big investment compare to US. And of course I am not planning to invest all my savings.its just a portion of it. it will be hobby for me because I always wanted to have a farm but it's a such a big investment in the US and so many regulations,so much overhead. This way I will satisfy my self and also it will be a employment opportunities for my fiancé's family.As you know Thai families are so large.There are pig farm and fish farm workers in the family so finding right employees is not a problem.Problem is they only know how to work.They are not any help about finding right land and wholesalers. Thanks.
I don't want to insult your family or Thai people in general but the knowledge and working attitude is different to western countries. You will see when you're here and started your farm.

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If you are not careful...you will fail. This isn't BS.

The culture is different, working attitude is different...

You could hire SGS to do the ground work but once they are off, you will be on your own.

From the looks of it, you tend to be more on the management side of things instead off doing the learning curve.

If your plan is to retire then why all this commitment to do such big investment ? If you fail it won't be retirement anymore.

I don't think its a such a big investment compare to US. And of course I am not planning to invest all my savings.its just a portion of it. it will be hobby for me because I always wanted to have a farm but it's a such a big investment in the US and so many regulations,so much overhead. This way I will satisfy my self and also it will be a employment opportunities for my fiancé's family.As you know Thai families are so large.There are pig farm and fish farm workers in the family so finding right employees is not a problem.Problem is they only know how to work.They are not any help about finding right land and wholesalers. Thanks.
I don't want to insult your family or Thai people in general but the knowledge and working attitude is different to western countries. You will see when you're here and started your farm.

I know their attitude very well. We ve been together for 9 years and almost every 3 months a family member comes to visit us. And 12 of them immigrated here and works for me.

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So the 12 family members working for you (in the US I assume), they will follow you back to Thailand to work on your farm? If it is, that's hard to believe. Sorry...

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So the 12 family members working for you (in the US I assume), they will follow you back to Thailand to work on your farm? If it is, that's hard to believe. Sorry...

No . They will stay here. There are about 700 more family members in Thailand.As you know Thai's have big families.We will have our Thai wedding ceremony there and they are planning to invite about 900 people.

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I live here and I haven't noticed Thais have big families. Actually I see quite a few single child families. 700 in your family, that is a remarkable achievement anywhere.

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I guess the op considers everyone called ''yai'' is a grandmother and ''pee'' as a sister to his wife to be and / or her, immediate family.

he will have a hefty sin sod to pay to impress any family of 7 to 800. must be breeding like rabbits. The 12 in the US will take control of local politics in a couple generations if they are that profolic.

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The OP is clearly asking for the "right advice". Why is nobody giving it to him ? The "right advice" is :

- Stay in Thailand for the duration of 6 months and check out the in's and out's of the business he is interested in on location. In this case , Phuket. BEFORE INVESTING A SINGLE DIME !

After doing some research on location (including considering the legal-side, describing "Investors-Rights" for Farangs, or the lack thereof ), I am confident that OP's hunger to invest in Thailand will the greatly diminished.

Only way to go for the OP. Everything else is just "keyboard-abuse".

Cheers.

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The OP is clearly asking for the "right advice". Why is nobody giving it to him ? The "right advice" is :

- Stay in Thailand for the duration of 6 months and check out the in's and out's of the business he is interested in on location. In this case , Phuket. BEFORE INVESTING A SINGLE DIME !

After doing some research on location (including considering the legal-side, describing "Investors-Rights" for Farangs, or the lack thereof ), I am confident that OP's hunger to invest in Thailand will the greatly diminished.

Only way to go for the OP. Everything else is just "keyboard-abuse".

Cheers.

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Thats what I told him already.

Plus be a bit less aggressive in his responses.

Finally, read the farming forum a little more in depth, the info he needs is in there.

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The OP is clearly asking for the "right advice". Why is nobody giving it to him ? The "right advice" is :

- Stay in Thailand for the duration of 6 months and check out the in's and out's of the business he is interested in on location. In this case , Phuket. BEFORE INVESTING A SINGLE DIME !

After doing some research on location (including considering the legal-side, describing "Investors-Rights" for Farangs, or the lack thereof ), I am confident that OP's hunger to invest in Thailand will the greatly diminished.

Only way to go for the OP. Everything else is just "keyboard-abuse".

Cheers.

I agree come over here ,rent a house ,and do a rekey on every thing .

One thing I noticed the op wants to lease land ,over the past 11 years we have leased /rented 3 lots of land ,and lost the lot ,2 being sold by the owner ,the other put the rent up ,made it not viable for us to farm ,a Thai friend of mine has a 12 year lease on a 20 rie of land all slopes and bumps ,most can not be ploughed ,built a small milking parlour , a cattle shed ,and a small basic house now milking a small herd of cows ,doing ok ,and now the owner wants to sell the land ,wants 3-4 million Bart ,which he would never get..

I have vision's of the OP with his pig sheds ,and fish ponds, up and running the owner decides to sell the land ,then what , does your Thai wife still have an Thai id card and a house registration book ,and buy some land ? or your extended family ,if you can trust them ,when you do your rekey, find a good lawyer and get a very tight land lease.

One thing ,unknown to me our ex and only fuel garage in our town, was built on rented land been they 20 years +,land prices have gone up a lot ,the owner of the land said I will sell you the land ,for 10 million Bart ,garage owner did not have the money ,the land owner said no money ,get out ,now it is a block of 3 story lock ups ,do not know the politics behind it all ,but it can happen.

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Many of the replies are rather mean spirited, BUT, other than the bar business farming is a tough job with very little profit. You have gotten accurate advice from people who have been here a long time.

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