bigbadthaijohn Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Hi everyone, At the end of the first year of work (for a teacher in this case), should the visa extension or the WP renewal be applied for first? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 The WP is needed as part of the package when applying for an extension of stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalchromakey Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 WP renewal must be filed before its expiry date. Extension application can be made using the WP5 receipt (A5 Sized) plus WP copies; worse come to the worse, Immigration may request sight of the WP4 book itself and Labour can accommodate this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadthaijohn Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 The teacher has a Work Permit already. She is coming up on the end of the first contract and the expiry date of the visa and WP. So my question is, which should be applied for first, the extension of the visa or the renewal of the WP? I have seen it stated both ways on various websites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadthaijohn Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 Digital - So submit the WP renewal application (WP.5) first, then go to immigration and apply for the visa extension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalchromakey Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Digital - So submit the WP renewal application (WP.5) first, then go to immigration and apply for the visa extension? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadthaijohn Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 Thanks. The only thing that confuses me is that the WP.5 states that you have to submit the passport along with the application. If you submit the passport to the MoL, then how can you apply for a visa extension at immigration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 They don't keep the passport during the work permit approval process. They just look at it to confirm the copies of it match and give it back. A work permit is not tied to a permit to stay. Many people are able to extend their work weeks or even months before their extension is due. There is also no requirement that the work permit be valid for a year when the extension is applied for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadthaijohn Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 Thanks for the clarification, Joe. I've had my own WP/visa extended many times, but this is the first time I am taking care of it for someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftorright Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Last year MoL (Bangkok) wouldn't accept my WP renewal application until I had managed my Non-B extension (both expired on the same day, within two weeks of my application). Immigration just wanted a copy of the WP as it was. So for me the drill now is Non-B extension first and then on to MoL for the WP renewal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalchromakey Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Last year MoL (Bangkok) wouldn't accept my WP renewal application until I had managed my Non-B extension (both expired on the same day, within two weeks of my application). Immigration just wanted a copy of the WP as it was. So for me the drill now is Non-B extension first and then on to MoL for the WP renewal. Also in my area the actual WP renewal cannot be processed for issue until after the One Year Extension is granted, but I would still recommend filing the WP application first, particularly of you are close to the deadline. The WP application is filed and noted as awaiting the Extension of Permission to be approved, but the renewed WP itself will not be issued until after the One Year Extension is granted, or at least approved under consideration (initial 30 day stamp). In the intermediate period the A5 sized WP5 receipt substitutes as your Work Permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hello, This is what my colleague at school did a few months ago. He extended his Non-B extension first, and then renewed his WP. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallyrd Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) For the past seven years it has always been WP first following by an Extension of Stay for me. Renewing the WP takes only a day at my local office and as usual the Extension of Stay takes a maximum of 30 days. invariably the Immigration office will call and tell me to go and collect my passport, this usually between the 15th day and 20th day period. Edited September 21, 2015 by mallyrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hello, This is what my colleague at school did a few months ago. He extended his Non-B extension first, and then renewed his WP. Hope this helps. What my colleague added was he got his Non-B extension and WP renewal done on the day he applied for them and that you could do both these two in a day if you could afford to go to the Immigration Office in the morning for the extension and then to the Labour Office in the afternoon for the renewal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadthaijohn Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Thanks for weighing in everyone. What I've found out is that while there is an actual procedure you're supposed to follow, each individual MoL office wants you to to it their way. So I'm just going to stop in and ask them directly. Luckily, I live near the local office and I'm not under a time crunch (WP doesn't expire for 2 months). When its done, I'll post what I had to do. Sent from my ASUS_T00J using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hello, This should depend upon the immigration office, I'd say. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Very good question and answers. When I saw this post I thought of another question relating to this subject, probably been covered in other threads but just thought I would ask here as this thread is current. There are a number of different visas available, which are needed for entering the country. When you go thru immigration you get a stamp allowing you to stay for a certain period. Is it then the immigration officer who can individually decide how long one can stay when you pass the immigration counter? What I am trying to figure out really, is there really any connection between the type of visa that you use for entering the country and the extension of stay? I know Thai people who enter Thailand on a foreign passport and get a visa on entry, they get extension of stay endlessly year after year, which leads me to think that every case can actually be decided by the individual immigration office, regardless of the type of visa you entered the country with? And what's with the non-immigrant visas? isn't everyone entering the country not an immigrant, including tourists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 A standard non immigrant visa allows a 90 day entry. One ending with an A allows one year. A tourist visa 60 days. An immigration officer can reduce the number of days but cannot give more than that. Thais can apply for a one year extension of stay at an immigration office based upon being a returned Thai national for a fee of 1900 baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Last year MoL (Bangkok) wouldn't accept my WP renewal application until I had managed my Non-B extension (both expired on the same day, within two weeks of my application). Immigration just wanted a copy of the WP as it was. So for me the drill now is Non-B extension first and then on to MoL for the WP renewal. This is the order for me as well. Non-B Extension first. Then Work Permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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