webfact Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 German tourist dies from box jellyfish attack in SamuiKOH SAMUI: -- A 20-year-old German tourist died and her friend was injured after she was stung by box jellyfish while swimming at night at Lamai beach in Samui Island last night.Bophud station police investigator Pol Maj Udomsak Thappa said the police were alerted of the death of Ms Thies Saskia by Bangkok Samui hospital around midnight.She suffered wounds on both legs, stomach, back and arms, the officer said.Her friend identified as Jiovana Rassi, also a German tourist, received slight injury as she swam to rescue her friend after hearing she screamed while swimming in the sea in front of Lamai beach.She is still at hospital for monitoring of the wound.Investigation later revealed that both tourists checked in at a bungalow on Lamai beach.Shortly later Bungalow employees heard loud scream from the beach, they rushed to the source of the sound and saw both tourists in the sea.They cried in pains with wounds believed to be stung by box jellyfishes on their bodies.They were given primary care by rescue workers of Samui municipal rescue centre with vinegar to relieve their pains, and later rushed to Bangkok Samui hospital.But Ms Thies Saskia died later from the deadly poisons.The body of the dead tourist will be flown to Police General Hospital in Bangkok this morning for autopsy.Jet Ski club president Withaya Suksom, said he was alerted of a large number of box jellyfishes in the sea of Lamai beach by residents and club members yesterday.He immediately coordinated with the marine police and also asked jet skiers to go out warning tourists swimming in the water to stay off the sea.Besides he also sought cooperation from all bungalow and hotel operators to put up warning signs on the beach and advise tourists not to swim in the sea during this period.He said he never expected the incident would happen at night.The box jellyfish is one of the world’s most toxic animals and its stings usually cause victims to die quickly and in agony.A French boy aged five years old died on Koh Phangan from box jellyfish stings in August last year.Experts say that the only treatment for box jellyfish is common vinegar. The vinegar does nothing to dull the pain but it does combat the toxicity. Without vinegar, the jellyfish stings continue to attack and destroy the victim’s flesh. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/german-tourist-dies-from-box-jellyfish-attack-in-samui -- Thai PBS 2015-10-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 RIP. What a terrible tragedy. I hope the 2nd person makes a quick and full recovery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beng Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Rip. Hopefully they will put up warning signs and monitor the situation until its safe to swim there again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 Jellyfish Kill German Tourist on Koh SamuiBy Sasiwan MokkhasenLamai Beach on Koh Samui in a 2010 file photo. Photo: Anthony SprattSURAT THANI — Tourists on a popular resort island have been warned to stay out of the water after a German tourist was killed last night by box jellyfish.Thies Saskia, 20, was swimming at night when she was stung, at which time an unidentified friend entered the water to help her and was also stung. Both women were taken to the hospital where Saskia was soon pronounced dead. Her friend was slightly injured.“It was reported by our members today that there are many box jellyfish at Lamai Beach, so I coordinated with marine police and sent out our jet ski drivers to warn tourists to get out of the water,” said Witthaya Suksom, president of the Samui Jet Ski Club.Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1444198839 -- Khaosod English 2015-10-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ourmanflint Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I call BS on any warnings put out. This has been happening for years and the response is always the same, they try to keep quiet about it and do not tell tourists who might up sticks and go somewhere else. The most important thing in any such situation in Thailand is lets not do anything to upset the money supply. ie the tourist cash cow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRun Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 RIP to the young lady, a very painful way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loeilad Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 "They were given primary care by rescue workers of Samui municipal rescue centre with vinegar to relieve their pains," - this is deeply disturbing as that is NOT what the vinegar is for....let's hope this is bad reporting and not bad training as regards the primary carers. Were there signs on the beach and were there vinegar stations? This is one of the most popular beaches in Thailand, in an area that is well within the region of box jellies - in Oz, there would be nets and the season clearly demarcated. The more we hear of box jellies in Thailand, the more I'm reminded of the plot of "Jaws 1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I went for my usual late swim off the most popular part of Lamai beach at about 6pm yesterday - there were no warnings - noticed about a half a dozen jet skis packing up for the day only about 50mtrs from where I jumped into the water, but nothing was said to me. There have been a lot of reports of jelly fish past few months, so I have been very watchful both in and out (along the shoreline) of the water for any, but yesterday did not see anything. Dodged a bullet for sure ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loeilad Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 It's incredibly difficult to spot a box jelly especially if you are in the water as they are translucent and colorless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class C Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Isn't zinc gluconate worth trying ? Google "box jellyfish zinc gluconate" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Isn't zinc gluconate worth trying ? Google "box jellyfish zinc gluconate" I don't know why Scientific American couldn't be linked to. If I'm incorrect mod, apologies and delete. Don't Pee On It: Zinc Emerges As New Jellyfish Sting Treatment By Christie Wilcox | December 12, 2012 Nothing can turn a fun day at the beach into a nightmare faster than a jellyfish sting, as Angel Yanagihara, researcher at the University of Hawaii, learned firsthand when she was swimming off Kaimana beach in 1997..... http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/dont-pee-on-it-zinc-emerges-as-new-jellyfish-sting-treatment/ Summary: The toxin create holes in red blood cells that then leak potassium into the blood stream which can lead to cardiac arrest. Zinc Gluconate looks promising and has been used topically on a long distance swimmer attempting a Cuba to Florida swim through box jelly fish swarms. Excellent article. 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loeilad Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I don't know why Scientific American couldn't be linked to. http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/dont-pee-on-it-zinc-emerges-as-new-jellyfish-sting-treatment/ If I'm incorrect mod, apologies and delete. This all came out about 3 years ago.....but I haven't read or heard a thing since. There is a possibility that it hasn't lived up to expectations, is still undergoing research before trials or the press simply got it wrong, which wouldn't be the first time on matters scientific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upena Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Lifeguards determined years ago the box jellyfish cycle and it looks like it pertains to Thailand as this month the dates at 6-7-8 - Google hawaii jellyfish calendar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falang07 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 So why would someone go to Samui without being able to actually swim in the sea? I can swim in a swimming pool in Bangkok, too. This is what they are afraid of so I do not expect any big campaign but rather a huge effort to sweep it under the carpet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 So why would someone go to Samui without being able to actually swim in the sea? I can swim in a swimming pool in Bangkok, too. This is what they are afraid of so I do not expect any big campaign but rather a huge effort to sweep it under the carpet. Definitely they kill more people than shark attacks. Wouldn't stop me from swimming in the ocean though. Living life to it's fullest is full of risks. "You pays your money and you takes your chances", as the old saying goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MockingJay Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Kinda dull headline "bix jellyfish attack" like a jellyfish would purposedly swim towards a person and attack her... "Believed to..." it could also have ben a Man-of-War jellyfish, who knows? West coast seems to be safe when looking at disribution maps... RIP to the victim and fast recovery to the 2nd swimmer. Tragic, but this kind of stuff happens every day all over the world. More people get killed while bowling or even changing light bulbs at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyrH Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 This is really tragic. RIP But it's the second time that the victim get stung swimming in the dark. Does anyone know if the box jellyfish goes out mostly at night? Maybe there should be signs warning people not to go swimming after dark as you cannot see what's in the water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb17 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Just let this be a warning to all tourists keep out of the sea in pattaya its full of jellyfish and plus its filthy This has nothing to do with Pattaya- as far as I am aware there are no reports of jellyfish. Why is it that there are a certain cohort of members that bash Pattaya at EVERY possible moment ( probably going out every day to see how their tapioca plants have grown) So young, popular beach, nature bites you back. A bit of seaweed, some non threatening jellyfish- OK - if there is a chance of death- this should be broadcast to all and sundry - to hell with TAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bignose Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I see the cynical TV brigade are out in force on this one! Those pesky tour operators and business owners are conspiring to exspose their valued customers in the persuit of a few extra Baht, haven't we heard all this before? It is not unusual for Box Jellyfish to be in Thai waters at this time of the year, yes signage would be preferrable but lets be honest, how many people would read tham and act on it? For the few negative people who weren't told about the hazard, I am sure there were many more that were told. There are many hazards out there in the open water, there will always be a chance of a tragedy like this. It's heart breaking for this young woman's family and friends, to lose a loved one like this would be horrendous but is anyone actually to blame? Commiserations and condolences to her family and friends... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman333 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 that is tragic, may she R.I.P. They need a better warning system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjnaus Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Wouldn't stop me from swimming in the ocean though. Living life to it's fullest is full of risks. "You pays your money and you takes your chances", as the old saying goes. A fine example of "natural selection" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthobkk Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 DO NOT use vinegar on bow jellyfish it makes things even worse ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shocky2004 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 This is very painful for me to read this as my friend passed away on July 31st in Koh Phagan at the Full Moon party after being stung by a box jellyfish. Thailand need to do something about that it's been going on for years now. I hope this girl didn't suffer for long. I wish my condoleances to her family and friends, this is a terrible tragedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihalis Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I call BS on any warnings put out. This has been happening for years and the response is always the same, they try to keep quiet about it and do not tell tourists who might up sticks and go somewhere else. The most important thing in any such situation in Thailand is lets not do anything to upset the money supply. ie the tourist cash cow Really, wonder how i was warned on my first visit, oh, by some Thais, telling me so...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyM3 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Is there a seasonal trend to box jellyfish incursions? I've swam many times on this beach but November - April. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 So sorry to hear this sad news.I'm not saying this would have saved this girl's life, but here's what I do to neutralize the poison in jellyfish stings and insect stings (e.g., bees, wasps, hornets, etc.).I topically apply either bruised papaya tree leaves, or the pulped flesh of green (unripe) papaya fruit, or meat tenderizer. The leaves and green fruit are high in the protein-digesting enzyme papain, and meat tenderizer is mostly pure papain which is derived from the papaya tree.Jellyfish and insect venoms are made mostly of protein, and when papain comes into contact with those venoms they're rendered harmless. A bottle of meat tenderizer is commonly found in the kits of EMTs (Emergency Medical Technicians), which they use to tread venomous stings. [/size]Bruised papaya leaf and green papaya fruit have also traditionally been applied to infected wounds or ulcerations to enzymatically debride dead and festering tissue.Bruised papaya leaves are also used to tenderize raw meats. Wrap the bruised leaf around the meat or fish and let it sit for 1 or 2 hours before cooking.In university my biology teacher, who was doing his PhD research on jellyfish, kept several bottles of Adolph's Meat Tenderizer on his lab benches to tread the inevitable stings. Here in Thailand my wife prepares almost daily som tam salad which many of you know. For those who don't, it's made from shredded green papaya fruit flesh, lime juice, fish sauce, palm sugar, tomato and peanuts ... and is often garnished with fresh boa bok (Centella asiatica) and other raw greens. (And there are many variations.) It's the perfect, digestive-enzyme-rich salad to enhance digestion. Especially when eating high-protein foods like fish, shrimp, beef, pork, chicken, tofu, etc.Ripe papaya covered with lime juice is also the perfect low-calorie desert. However, the ripe fruit contains no papain because as the papaya fruit ripens it contains less and less papain enzyme. "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food." Hippocrates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Lifeguards determined years ago the box jellyfish cycle and it looks like it pertains to Thailand as this month the dates at 6-7-8 - Google hawaii jellyfish calendar This calendar is for Hawaii. How do you know it also applies to Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitnesspm Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 My Thai friend was stun at the full moon party 3 months ago! She was in hospital for a couple days where the scars are still very visable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 ...too little too late.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makhao Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 The article mentioned above about Angel Yanagihara is very interesting and yes, she is still working on a treatment. This article is newer then the former one and also explains, that the jellyfish feeds in the night. http://islandjanemagazine.com/island-jane-of-the-month/dr-angel-yanagihara/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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