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The Pattaya office processes nearly four times as many retirement extensions annually as Chiang Mai yet we consistently hear good reports about how smoothly that office operates. I find it hard to believe that the retirees in Pattaya are more clued in and better adjusted than the ones in Chiang Mai.

I've been here nearly eight years and the Chiang Mai office has consistently been crowded, although the need to queue in the early morning for retirement extensions seemed to have started about 4 or 5 year ago. I certainly wasn't complaining publicly at that time. In fact, I couldn't really speak from personal experience because I was always successful in getting an on-line appointment for me and Hubby. But the on-line queue disappeared with the move to Prom. for reasons that really didn't make sense.

So, I don't think the fact that "people are telling CM Imm. what they are doing wrong" is the cause of the problems.

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NancyL,

You are twisting the intent (and the words) of my actual post... What I said is. "Some of the blame for what happens in Chiang Mai can surely rest in places other than just Immigration." in post 942. I don't recall saying it is "the cause of the problems". If I did, that was not my intention.

From some of the posts I have read, what some people are telling Immigration will only cause problems. This is not a Western society. Just take the debacle of what some people thought of the U.S. Ambassador's words.

Often times our real attitudes show through even when not saying anything or saying something we think will please the other side, while we are thinking something else.

NancyL, you once posted that you had to "brow beat" an Immigration officer at the airport in Bangkok... IN MY OPINION that would be a bad thing to do. Whether you actually did "brow beat" the officer or not, just relating the story in that fashion shows, IN MY OPINION, the wrong attitude.

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My friend doesn't know what he's going to do. It's more than a week before his extension expires and he hates the idea of paying G4T 3000 baht to do it for him. Yet, it's not good, either, to pay 500 baht for round trip transportation only to be turned away.

Getting there earlier is, unfortunately, the only thing he can do if he is to avoid using an agent.

Mr K went to do his recently, the details regarding numbers waiting/processed that day have already been posted so I won't repeat them, I hope they bring back an online reservation before next year.

He slept through most of his waiting time and but they were very understaffed and that when he went back to pick it up the office was very, very busy full of what appeared to be a lot of tourists extending visas in the middle of the day.

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NancyL,

You are twisting the intent (and the words) of my actual post... What I said is. "Some of the blame for what happens in Chiang Mai can surely rest in places other than just Immigration." in post 942. I don't recall saying it is "the cause of the problems". If I did, that was not my intention.

From some of the posts I have read, what some people are telling Immigration will only cause problems. This is not a Western society. Just take the debacle of what some people thought of the U.S. Ambassador's words.

Often times our real attitudes show through even when not saying anything or saying something we think will please the other side, while we are thinking something else.

NancyL, you once posted that you had to "brow beat" an Immigration officer at the airport in Bangkok... IN MY OPINION that would be a bad thing to do. Whether you actually did "brow beat" the officer or not, just relating the story in that fashion shows, IN MY OPINION, the wrong attitude.

What I don't understand is we have been hearing all this hype about ASEAN so you would really think all this kind of stuff would get sorted out. Maybe it was just that - pure hype.

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NancyL,

You are twisting the intent (and the words) of my actual post... What I said is. "Some of the blame for what happens in Chiang Mai can surely rest in places other than just Immigration." in post 942. I don't recall saying it is "the cause of the problems". If I did, that was not my intention.

From some of the posts I have read, what some people are telling Immigration will only cause problems. This is not a Western society. Just take the debacle of what some people thought of the U.S. Ambassador's words.

Often times our real attitudes show through even when not saying anything or saying something we think will please the other side, while we are thinking something else.

NancyL, you once posted that you had to "brow beat" an Immigration officer at the airport in Bangkok... IN MY OPINION that would be a bad thing to do. Whether you actually did "brow beat" the officer or not, just relating the story in that fashion shows, IN MY OPINION, the wrong attitude.

I don't ever recall writing that I "brow beat" an Immigration officer at the airport in Bangkok. I believe you are trying to stir up trouble.

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I don't ever recall writing that I "brow beat" an Immigration officer at the airport in Bangkok. I believe you are trying to stir up trouble.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/798038-getting-retirement-visa-re-newed/ post # 11

It took me all of 1 minute to search and find that. I remember it being said because of the reasons I have already stated.

NancyL, this post is an accusation from you... I hope the moderators do not hold it against me.

I was not trying to stir trouble.... I was merely trying to give an example of how an attitude can injure relations.

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I don't ever recall writing that I "brow beat" an Immigration officer at the airport in Bangkok. I believe you are trying to stir up trouble.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/798038-getting-retirement-visa-re-newed/ post # 11

It took me all of 1 minute to search and find that. I remember it being said because of the reasons I have already stated.

NancyL, this post is an accusation from you... I hope the moderators do not hold it against me.

I was not trying to stir trouble.... I was merely trying to give an example of how an attitude can injure relations.

Oh, that incident. The Imm. officer stamped in Hubby for 30 days, instead of the 7 days or whatever remained on his retirement extension. Hubby was at a different podium from me and when he went back alone and brought it to her attention, she didn't want to change it. I had to come over and got involved in the discussion because I know more Thai language. In retrospect, I don't think he put his re-entry permit number on his arrival card, but she should have changed the stamp, the first time that Hubby politely pointed out his extension and re-entry permit.

I wasn't speaking impolitely to the Imm. officer, either, but I did know that if we didn't get this problem corrected at the Swampy entry point it was going to be a big chore for Hubby to start from ground zero to get a new retirement extension from a 30 day visa exempt entry. Swampy was the place to get it fixed -- not keep moving and leave her alone like she was acting like we should do.

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You can check this, but an American friend of mine who has lived in Thailand for almost 30 years now (perfectly fluent in spoken and written Thai) says that insulting or confronting an immigration officer can result in a two-year jail term.

Recently, we were both re-entering Thailand at the Chiang Mai airport immigration hall and the woman officer told my friend to take his passport out of the plastic holder (the kiosk next to him was where I was going through, with the exact same plastic holder which I was not told to remove). My friend was inconvenienced and said, "I've never had to do that before," and then the woman, in Thai which she assumed he -- being a dumbass foreigner -- could not understand, began mocking him and all the immigration officers laughed, one saying: "Don't let him in!"

After he told me that the confronting an immigration officer proscription is real and that you have to just stand there and take whatever crap they sling at you.

I'd be very cautious about brow-beating an immigration official.

And by the way NancyL, you just been owned! :D

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You can check this, but an American friend of mine who has lived in Thailand for almost 30 years now (perfectly fluent in spoken and written Thai) says that insulting or confronting an immigration officer can result in a two-year jail term.

Recently, we were both re-entering Thailand at the Chiang Mai airport immigration hall and the woman officer told my friend to take his passport out of the plastic holder (the kiosk next to him was where I was going through, with the exact same plastic holder which I was not told to remove). My friend was inconvenienced and said, "I've never had to do that before," and then the woman, in Thai which she assumed he -- being a dumbass foreigner -- could not understand, began mocking him and all the immigration officers laughed, one saying: "Don't let him in!"

After he told me that the confronting an immigration officer proscription is real and that you have to just stand there and take whatever crap they sling at you.

I'd be very cautious about brow-beating an immigration official.

And by the way NancyL, you just been owned! biggrin.png

That's the same the world over. Let's not mention the C word again.....

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I dont think hml 367 was trying to cause any trouble .He was quoting what it transpires that you did say. I think an apology would be in order to the said person.

Yeah, someone should apologize to the resident passive-aggressive thread stalker. Thanks, that was funny! gigglem.gif

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I don't ever recall writing that I "brow beat" an Immigration officer at the airport in Bangkok. I believe you are trying to stir up trouble.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/798038-getting-retirement-visa-re-newed/ post # 11

It took me all of 1 minute to search and find that. I remember it being said because of the reasons I have already stated.

NancyL, this post is an accusation from you... I hope the moderators do not hold it against me.

I was not trying to stir trouble.... I was merely trying to give an example of how an attitude can injure relations.

Oh, that incident. The Imm. officer stamped in Hubby for 30 days, instead of the 7 days or whatever remained on his retirement extension. Hubby was at a different podium from me and when he went back alone and brought it to her attention, she didn't want to change it. I had to come over and got involved in the discussion because I know more Thai language. In retrospect, I don't think he put his re-entry permit number on his arrival card, but she should have changed the stamp, the first time that Hubby politely pointed out his extension and re-entry permit.

I wasn't speaking impolitely to the Imm. officer, either, but I did know that if we didn't get this problem corrected at the Swampy entry point it was going to be a big chore for Hubby to start from ground zero to get a new retirement extension from a 30 day visa exempt entry. Swampy was the place to get it fixed -- not keep moving and leave her alone like she was acting like we should do.

Entry stamp mistakes MUST be corrected at the at the entry point where they were made, I had the same, on a 1 year multi entry visa , got stamped thirty days at a border crossing from Laos, didn't see it until return to CM went to Imm. to get it fixed and was told I needed to return to THAT border crossing to get it fixed... luckily my friend knew someone so I was able to get it ifxed at the CM airport for a bottle of JW wai.gif So Nancy did the right thing... ! sometimes not often but sometimes, you need to go full farang and stand your ground..... but smile.

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