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More than 8 years ago I had no problems with extensions for retirement. For myself, I had no problems walking in for extensions until 4 or 5 years ago...

In addition, the documentation has not changed one bit for me during all of my extensions.

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Same here.

Until about 5 or 6 years ago, I just poped into CM Imm Off at a decent day time and my retirement extension was kindly processed.

But things have changed and we have to move with that... Not a big deal once in a year rolleyes.gif

No change in requirements as well, except about 8 years ago CM Imm Off droped the required "health certificate" tongue.png

All this story is a loud bang for a tiny spark, me think...

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We were there at 4.30am this morning, third in the queue. The first one there was a young boy who was representing the visa agents, he said he had three passports to deal with, but when the time came he was replaced by a woman who only had one customer with her, so as number 3 We were done by 10.15 and have been told to return after 1.30pm to collect my passport. If I am in and out in ten minutes I will be a very happy chappie, but I doubt that will happen.

From what I observed 90 days and re-entry desks were running smoothly and they were getting through the numbers very swiftly.

But what pissed me off was that the ONE woman doing retirement extensions did not actually start processing any until well after 9am, she was there from 8.30, just doing nothing but talking on her mobile!!It also appears that some people still had internet appointments as one was called before me, so I can only imagine that these had been booked a long time ago?

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We were there at 4.30am this morning, third in the queue. The first one there was a young boy who was representing the visa agents, he said he had three passports to deal with, but when the time came he was replaced by a woman who only had one customer with her, so as number 3 We were done by 10.15 and have been told to return after 1.30pm to collect my passport. If I am in and out in ten minutes I will be a very happy chappie, but I doubt that will happen.

From what I observed 90 days and re-entry desks were running smoothly and they were getting through the numbers very swiftly.

But what pissed me off was that the ONE woman doing retirement extensions did not actually start processing any until well after 9am, she was there from 8.30, just doing nothing but talking on her mobile!!It also appears that some people still had internet appointments as one was called before me, so I can only imagine that these had been booked a long time ago?

Good report Thai Pauly.

Did they distribute all 20 retirement queue tickets today?

Did you happen to note what queue number went to people who showed up at, say, 7:30 am or even 8:15 am?

And yes, it still has been less than 100 days since they took down the on-line queue, so there are people with on-line appointments to be processed.

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4h30 AM ? <deleted> so earllllyyyyy :( i need to go old imigration for 60 day thai child , what time you think should be good

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We were there at 4.30am this morning, third in the queue. The first one there was a young boy who was representing the visa agents, he said he had three passports to deal with, but when the time came he was replaced by a woman who only had one customer with her, so as number 3 We were done by 10.15 and have been told to return after 1.30pm to collect my passport. If I am in and out in ten minutes I will be a very happy chappie, but I doubt that will happen.

From what I observed 90 days and re-entry desks were running smoothly and they were getting through the numbers very swiftly.

But what pissed me off was that the ONE woman doing retirement extensions did not actually start processing any until well after 9am, she was there from 8.30, just doing nothing but talking on her mobile!!It also appears that some people still had internet appointments as one was called before me, so I can only imagine that these had been booked a long time ago?

Good report Thai Pauly.

Did they distribute all 20 retirement queue tickets today?

Did you happen to note what queue number went to people who showed up at, say, 7:30 am or even 8:15 am?

And yes, it still has been less than 100 days since they took down the on-line queue, so there are people with on-line appointments to be processed.[/quote)

I don't think anyone got turned away today, I went outside for a crafty smoke just after we got inside and there was nobody hanging around. I could not tell you what numbers people who showed up at 7.30 got though.

As far as getting the passport back,just a 20 minute wait, so that'it for another year yippee!!!

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Hopefully mentioned many times before.

The online appointment webpage never did make it clear what it was to be used for!

Much comment has been made about visa agents abusing the system, but from what I hear the bigger problem was from those using it for ineligible 90-day reports/re-entry permits and such.

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Yes, I think most people would agree the best solution would be to have a functional on-line queue system and one much better than they had before, with adequate appointments and the ability to cancel your appointments easily.

However, the management of CM Immigration doesn't feel this is a priority and point out that they aren't distributing 20 queue tickets for retirement extensions each morning now. They say -- don't worry -- when it gets busy we'll bring on another officer and everything will be fine.

My suggestion about the need to continue to observe the early morning queue ticket distribution process is to make sure this is true. That people aren't getting turned away. Also to let people know that they don't need to arrive at zero-dark-thirty and stumble around in the unsafe conditions in the dark at Promenada in order to get a retirement queue ticket. And that visa agents aren't taking all 20 queue tickets. To be sure that the story Immigration is telling the Consuls, Embassies and others is true.

well that is not true , they ran out yesterday. i was there and there where more than 25 in the line for retirement . by 6 30 am .they must have read your report on monday as i did . but as we all know every day is different at im . i my self did not trust what was said about not giving out all the numbers. so we arrived there at 4 30 am to see if this was true . it was funny my wife and i beat all the agents and had spot one in the retirement and 90 day . the agents arrived at 5 30 am took the next 6 spots behind me. they where a bit shocked we where there. )).

my wife and i where doing her 90 day plus both of our yearly extensions and 2 multi entry and her cert ot residency . well we where done with the 90 day and both extensions by 9 30 am. had we been at the old one (airport) we would have had all completed by 11 am or so my guess. so we had as all know wait till 1 30 pm for our passports . ( got them at about 2 pm ) at 1 pm they where just starting #11 on the retirement Q. that had given all them out . there where some that used the agent next door when they ran out

so by 2 00 pm we had our passports . now remember i was the first one in the Q. and was getting our multi entry and res . finished all and was heading home by 2;30 pm . so i am not sure its as fixed as you may think / all the people at im where great very nice. the new waiting area is good . and more staff to process more would be great , or go with scanners like pattaya for 90 days , ect any way its much better than the last time i was there for my 90 day in august. oh and by 2 30 pm when we left they where on #15 on the retirement Q;

and they did both of us at the same time for the retirement , and they did not ask for a tm30. like some have said here. lease worked just fine, i had income statement from us consulate . did not get a 30 day pending stamp.got the normal 1 yr stamp

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Hopefully mentioned many times before.

The online appointment webpage never did make it clear what it was to be used for!

Much comment has been made about visa agents abusing the system, but from what I hear the bigger problem was from those using it for ineligible 90-day reports/re-entry permits and such.

I know a fellow who made two of them in case the first one didn't work.

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We were there at 4.30am this morning, third in the queue. The first one there was a young boy who was representing the visa agents, he said he had three passports to deal with, but when the time came he was replaced by a woman who only had one customer with her, so as number 3 We were done by 10.15 and have been told to return after 1.30pm to collect my passport. If I am in and out in ten minutes I will be a very happy chappie, but I doubt that will happen.

From what I observed 90 days and re-entry desks were running smoothly and they were getting through the numbers very swiftly.

But what pissed me off was that the ONE woman doing retirement extensions did not actually start processing any until well after 9am, she was there from 8.30, just doing nothing but talking on her mobile!!It also appears that some people still had internet appointments as one was called before me, so I can only imagine that these had been booked a long time ago?

Good report Thai Pauly.

Did they distribute all 20 retirement queue tickets today?

Did you happen to note what queue number went to people who showed up at, say, 7:30 am or even 8:15 am?

And yes, it still has been less than 100 days since they took down the on-line queue, so there are people with on-line appointments to be processed.

I was also there today for a retirement extension, and had a 1:30 pm appointment. I was finished around 1:50, but had to wait to get my passport back at 4:30 pm. Like earlier years I wasn't asked for proof of address.

Sophon

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I know a fellow who made two of them in case the first one didn't work.

A professional system would recognise a double entry and block accordingly, not allowing a same applicant to book twice within a given period.

This could be done by insisting all applicants accept tracking cookies, detecting a same IP address with the same name and passport numbers. Selfish people caught gumming up the works should be denied applying for visas for that year using the online system and their previous booking cancelled out.

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I know a fellow who made two of them in case the first one didn't work.

A professional system would recognise a double entry and block accordingly, not allowing a same applicant to book twice within a given period.

This could be done by insisting all applicants accept tracking cookies, detecting a same IP address with the same name and passport numbers. Selfish people caught gumming up the works should be denied applying for visas for that year using the online system and their previous booking cancelled out.

I don't agree with what he did.

But when it comes to abusing the system the ones doing it for a 90 day are the worst.

The person did them three days apart and it would have been easy to use another computer to do the second one with.

The only way to do it would be to trace the passport numbers. Even then you could change just one number in your passport number and when you go in say you made a mistake. The system will only work when every one is allowed to book on line. As the numbers showed they averaged 22 a day and only allowed for 10 registrations a day.

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I know a fellow who made two of them in case the first one didn't work.

A professional system would recognise a double entry and block accordingly, not allowing a same applicant to book twice within a given period.

This could be done by insisting all applicants accept tracking cookies, detecting a same IP address with the same name and passport numbers. Selfish people caught gumming up the works should be denied applying for visas for that year using the online system and their previous booking cancelled out.

I don't agree with what he did.

But when it comes to abusing the system the ones doing it for a 90 day are the worst.

The person did them three days apart and it would have been easy to use another computer to do the second one with.

The only way to do it would be to trace the passport numbers. Even then you could change just one number in your passport number and when you go in say you made a mistake. The system will only work when every one is allowed to book on line. As the numbers showed they averaged 22 a day and only allowed for 10 registrations a day.

Could be one of the reasons why immigration decided to cancel the online appointment system.

As you rightly say, unless an online system is installed that accommodates everyone, then it`s not going to work, because it is based on trust but unfortunately there are people that do not give a darn about anyone else, that mucks it up for everyone. Makes my blood boil, grrrrrr.

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We were there at 4.30am this morning, third in the queue. The first one there was a young boy who was representing the visa agents, he said he had three passports to deal with, but when the time came he was replaced by a woman who only had one customer with her, so as number 3 We were done by 10.15 and have been told to return after 1.30pm to collect my passport. If I am in and out in ten minutes I will be a very happy chappie, but I doubt that will happen.

From what I observed 90 days and re-entry desks were running smoothly and they were getting through the numbers very swiftly.

But what pissed me off was that the ONE woman doing retirement extensions did not actually start processing any until well after 9am, she was there from 8.30, just doing nothing but talking on her mobile!!It also appears that some people still had internet appointments as one was called before me, so I can only imagine that these had been booked a long time ago?

Good report Thai Pauly.

Did they distribute all 20 retirement queue tickets today?

Did you happen to note what queue number went to people who showed up at, say, 7:30 am or even 8:15 am?

And yes, it still has been less than 100 days since they took down the on-line queue, so there are people with on-line appointments to be processed.

I was also there today for a retirement extension, and had a 1:30 pm appointment. I was finished around 1:50, but had to wait to get my passport back at 4:30 pm. Like earlier years I wasn't asked for proof of address.

Sophon

thats true the lady doing the retirement when we where tuesday at 4 30 am and got the #1 spot .she checked our paperwork gave number 001 and she did not start untill 9am as stated above as well . then 2 went before us that had medical issues , then us but she was fast

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Presumably, when the last of the online appointments has been processed, which should be in a few weeks time, they will be able to issue 30 tickets for retirement extensions.

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went in on oct 20 th

well that is not true , they ran out yesterday. i was there and there where more than 25 in the line for retirement . by 6 30 am .they must have read your report on monday as i did . but as we all know every day is different at im . i my self did not trust what was said about not giving out all the numbers. so we arrived there at 4 30 am to see if this was true . it was funny my wife and i beat all the agents and had spot one in the retirement and 90 day . the agents arrived at 5 30 am took the next 6 spots behind me. they where a bit shocked we where there. )).

my wife and i where doing her 90 day plus both of our yearly extensions and 2 multi entry and her cert ot residency . well we where done with the 90 day and both extensions by 9 30 am. had we been at the old one (airport) we would have had all completed by 11 am or so my guess. so we had as all know wait till 1 30 pm for our passports . ( got them at about 2 pm ) at 1 pm they where just starting #11 on the retirement Q. that had given all them out . there where some that used the agent next door when they ran out

so by 2 00 pm we had our passports . now remember i was the first one in the Q. and was getting our multi entry and res . finished all and was heading home by 2;30 pm . so i am not sure its as fixed as you may think / all the people at im where great very nice. the new waiting area is good . and more staff to process more would be great , or go with scanners like pattaya for 90 days , ect any way its much better than the last time i was there for my 90 day in august. oh and by 2 30 pm when we left they where on #15 on

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