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'Not one of us threw a punch': Aussie tourist speaks out over brutal attack by Thai bouncers


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...I doubt that this reaches any Thai media...

...if it does...hold on to your hats for 'What happened, why and how...'...

...invite us here...but hate us....take all our money...and kill us at the slightest excuse....

And like lemmings,or sheep in this most recent case,they still come.

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How come these things never happens to me and my friends ? And we live in Thailand. If your looking for trouble you will find it .

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Love to see these bouncers try that with a few fist-handy sober lads from up north in the UK. All I see here is pure hatred being unleashed. The guy is down and out on the floor and three of them go back to kick him in again. I guess seeing foreigners splashing money on drinks night after night and Thai floozies all over them enjoying the spoils builds up resentment.

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How come these things never happens to me and my friends ? And we live in Thailand. If your looking for trouble you will find it .

Because you probably dont take your shirt off in a nightclub..

Because your probably suitably attired...

Because you probably are not stumbling around drunk..

Because you probably have enough Thai awareness to monitor the vibe..

Because if vibe is going sour you probably know to stop acting up or to defuse the situation..

Because of many many reason why it doesnt happen to us.

But the fact is, this is the customer base that (and many) patong clubs are trying to attract.. Offering free flow drink deals, to make tourists with no cultural sensibility or awareness get wildly drunk. When you create that environment specifically to get those customers, you do bear some responsibility in providing those customers a safe location to behave how they (may have been) behaving. You dont get it both ways.

If a bunch of drunk bogans acted up in a rural countryside bar and got a hiding.. They clearly should have been more cautious in where they let their guard down. But when a bar caters to and actively tries to entice boguns, with free flow drinks for fresh off the plane tourists and all that comes with it.. they have to cater to the customers they worked for.

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In Thailand (and some other parts of the world), just a perceived stare will bring out the aggressive instincts in the locals - no punch required.

And from the article "The nightclub's management has sacked the five bouncers involved and condemned their actions". This is good PR damage control from the management. However, I hope that next week they won't be back at work at the same place.

Not enough rings for Kick boxers so they need employment somewhere, many of them are nutters as well.

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Something must have been done or said prior to the event

what difference does it make? nothing can justify attempted murder. they were kicking the guys heads in. and nothing in the video can justify what the bouncers were doing. the guys were down. kicking someone in the head like a football means you want to kill them.

throw the bouncers and security guards in the video into Thai prison, two to five years. Next case.

Agreed.....while Beating, Kicking and doing bodily harm ( as in, brutal assault ) is not included in the job description and responsibilities of a bouncer at any bar or drinking establishment.

Their job is to control the crowds in an orderly fashion while their presence in the drinking establishment is more or less recognized and understood to be a sort of "on premise private police force" that can dictate and enforce the rules of the house and or restrain any patron, if necessary, and or have you arrested by the local police when called in to do so for disorderly conduct or violations of the in house rules, while any and all patrons are on the property or inside the premise at any time.

Regardless of what the victims did or said, short of hitting any bouncer first or aggressively and physically contacting the bouncer in any way .....the beating is totally unwarranted and the Aussies should sue the bar and the bouncers.......but I already know that would be a waste of time and probably escalate the animosity and hostilities....but just saying.

**** That is ......under the assumption that the victims really did nothing at all deserving of a brutal beating.

Other than that, this is just one more example of people drinking and or drinking establishments run amuck.

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How come these things never happens to me and my friends ? And we live in Thailand. If your looking for trouble you will find it .

Because you probably dont take your shirt off in a nightclub..

Because your probably suitably attired...

Because you probably are not stumbling around drunk..

Because you probably have enough Thai awareness to monitor the vibe..

Because if vibe is going sour you probably know to stop acting up or to defuse the situation..

Because of many many reason why it doesnt happen to us.

But the fact is, this is the customer base that (and many) patong clubs are trying to attract.. Offering free flow drink deals, to make tourists with no cultural sensibility or awareness get wildly drunk. When you create that environment specifically to get those customers, you do bear some responsibility in providing those customers a safe location to behave how they (may have been) behaving. You dont get it both ways.

If a bunch of drunk bogans acted up in a rural countryside bar and got a hiding.. They clearly should have been more cautious in where they let their guard down. But when a bar caters to and actively tries to entice boguns, with free flow drinks for fresh off the plane tourists and all that comes with it.. they have to cater to the customers they worked for.

Like this no shirt in a nightclub thug ?

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I just would like to add my 5 cents.

I am an Australian and I know too well how idiotic we can get over seas. Due to the binge drinking culture that we have created, we can barely manage our own affairs on our own streets. Australians have a terrible reputation of misbehaving whilst overseas. We tend to think we are above the law because we are foreigners and because we are from 'Straya'.

We are quick to blame the bouncers but something would've triggered them to react in such a way. Put yourself in their shoes. If you had to deal with drunken yobbos every single night, being abused and dealing with heroes every single night, you can't expect them to be shining beacons of peace.

Sad incident but the fact that the Aussies were so quick to depart the island speaks volumes.

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I just would like to add my 5 cents.

I am an Australian and I know too well how idiotic we can get over seas. Due to the binge drinking culture that we have created, we can barely manage our own affairs on our own streets. Australians have a terrible reputation of misbehaving whilst overseas. We tend to think we are above the law because we are foreigners and because we are from 'Straya'.

We are quick to blame the bouncers but something would've triggered them to react in such a way. Put yourself in their shoes. If you had to deal with drunken yobbos every single night, being abused and dealing with heroes every single night, you can't expect them to be shining beacons of peace.

Sad incident but the fact that the Aussies were so quick to depart the island speaks volumes.

I too am Australian and agree with the first part of your post.

However, if a bouncer doesnt have the mental faculties to do his job without the need to go outside his workplace to beat and kick a patron, a patron the bouncer is employed to protect, then he should find other employment.

It does not matter what, if anything, the aussies did. They were removed from the club and that should be the end of it. That is when the bouncers should have returned inside.

What are you implying when you say they were quick to depart the island? They could have departed as per their scheduled flight. No quick leaving at all.

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I just would like to add my 5 cents.

I am an Australian and I know too well how idiotic we can get over seas. Due to the binge drinking culture that we have created, we can barely manage our own affairs on our own streets. Australians have a terrible reputation of misbehaving whilst overseas. We tend to think we are above the law because we are foreigners and because we are from 'Straya'.

We are quick to blame the bouncers but something would've triggered them to react in such a way. Put yourself in their shoes. If you had to deal with drunken yobbos every single night, being abused and dealing with heroes every single night, you can't expect them to be shining beacons of peace.

Sad incident but the fact that the Aussies were so quick to depart the island speaks volumes.

Yes there is merit in this.

Aussies are binge drinkers, Indians rape women, American Black men are violent and aggressive towards Police, Muslims are terrorists..... there are many more but I fear these stereotypes are quite boring. An act of attack is an act of attack. To dissect the nationalities and any stereotypes from back home is simply not useful. A mentality of ranking people means that I could potentially start wearing the star of David sometime soon. Best avoided. smile.png

My sons attackers were American. One was shirtless all night through 6 hours of footage. One had on a tattered singlet top. My son had on a button up shirt to the neck. He is Australian though and was selected as the worst personality type amongst the three due to this racial profiling. This is not the entire case in a nutshell but it helped people of rank avoid certain truths presented to them whilst they were being paid off. It all boiled down to this single point.

This is not an argument this is a DIVERSION from a fair and just discussion and examination. These are all DIVERSIONS from the truth.

Once this happens to you and you experience it you cannot imagine what this is like.

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I'm sock of hearing about these murders. Robberies. Drowning's. Every single <deleted> day dy cowards who stack visitors to their country. Even most I have spoke with do not like this crime tarnishing the name of their country. Far past time to Boycott world wide the travel destination of Pukett. But by the looks of their decreasing visitor numbers they will ban themselves also In the day if the information age this can literally happen overnight.

The hooligan took off his shirt!

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I just would like to add my 5 cents.

I am an Australian and I know too well how idiotic we can get over seas. Due to the binge drinking culture that we have created, we can barely manage our own affairs on our own streets. Australians have a terrible reputation of misbehaving whilst overseas. We tend to think we are above the law because we are foreigners and because we are from 'Straya'.

We are quick to blame the bouncers but something would've triggered them to react in such a way. Put yourself in their shoes. If you had to deal with drunken yobbos every single night, being abused and dealing with heroes every single night, you can't expect them to be shining beacons of peace.

Sad incident but the fact that the Aussies were so quick to depart the island speaks volumes.

I too am Australian and agree with the first part of your post.

However, if a bouncer doesnt have the mental faculties to do his job without the need to go outside his workplace to beat and kick a patron, a patron the bouncer is employed to protect, then he should find other employment.

It does not matter what, if anything, the aussies did. They were removed from the club and that should be the end of it. That is when the bouncers should have returned inside.

What are you implying when you say they were quick to depart the island? They could have departed as per their scheduled flight. No quick leaving at all.

As you know... It's hard enough to find a level headed, mild-mannered, non-aggressive bouncer in Australia. I'm not being dismissive to the bouncers, but their are two sides to every story.

Yes perhaps I was quick to jump to conclusions. Unfortunate incident, so lets leave it at that.

I just would like to add my 5 cents.

I am an Australian and I know too well how idiotic we can get over seas. Due to the binge drinking culture that we have created, we can barely manage our own affairs on our own streets. Australians have a terrible reputation of misbehaving whilst overseas. We tend to think we are above the law because we are foreigners and because we are from 'Straya'.

We are quick to blame the bouncers but something would've triggered them to react in such a way. Put yourself in their shoes. If you had to deal with drunken yobbos every single night, being abused and dealing with heroes every single night, you can't expect them to be shining beacons of peace.

Sad incident but the fact that the Aussies were so quick to depart the island speaks volumes.

Yes there is merit in this.

Aussies are binge drinkers, Indians rape women, American Black men are violent and aggressive towards Police, Muslims are terrorists..... there are many more but I fear these stereotypes are quite boring. An act of attack is an act of attack. To dissect the nationalities and any stereotypes from back home is simply not useful. A mentality of ranking people means that I could potentially start wearing the star of David sometime soon. Best avoided. smile.png

My sons attackers were American. One was shirtless all night through 6 hours of footage. One had on a tattered singlet top. My son had on a button up shirt to the neck. He is Australian though and was selected as the worst personality type amongst the three due to this racial profiling. This is not the entire case in a nutshell but it helped people of rank avoid certain truths presented to them whilst they were being paid off. It all boiled down to this single point.

This is not an argument this is a DIVERSION from a fair and just discussion and examination. These are all DIVERSIONS from the truth.

Once this happens to you and you experience it you cannot imagine what this is like.

I'm sorry to hear about your son.

But lets face the facts - Party destination + free flowing alcohol + over inflated testosterone levels = problems.

Lets get off our high horses here. I'm sure many of the members here have been young and stupid before.

Bad name for Phuket. Bad name for Australians but this won't be the last incident of this nature.

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I just would like to add my 5 cents.

I am an Australian and I know too well how idiotic we can get over seas. Due to the binge drinking culture that we have created, we can barely manage our own affairs on our own streets. Australians have a terrible reputation of misbehaving whilst overseas. We tend to think we are above the law because we are foreigners and because we are from 'Straya'.

We are quick to blame the bouncers but something would've triggered them to react in such a way. Put yourself in their shoes. If you had to deal with drunken yobbos every single night, being abused and dealing with heroes every single night, you can't expect them to be shining beacons of peace.

Sad incident but the fact that the Aussies were so quick to depart the island speaks volumes.

I too am Australian and agree with the first part of your post.

However, if a bouncer doesnt have the mental faculties to do his job without the need to go outside his workplace to beat and kick a patron, a patron the bouncer is employed to protect, then he should find other employment.

It does not matter what, if anything, the aussies did. They were removed from the club and that should be the end of it. That is when the bouncers should have returned inside.

What are you implying when you say they were quick to depart the island? They could have departed as per their scheduled flight. No quick leaving at all.

I don't know if you've ever had a confrotation with a loud obnoxious (or 5-6 of them) but sometimes it's hard to keep awareness of your own self when it gets too much.. This is a developing country where bouncers(not bouncer, its actually security) are not trained. We chose to live here because its not a nanny-state so we have to expect untrained security.

These guys are not trained to handle stress, they are not trained at all, they are simply there to protect the business.

They most likely didnt even mean to kick the guy in the head when he was down, but imagine you have kids and some hits them with the car going 5km/h because hes angry that your kid crossed the middle line of the lane. What do you do? Do you go full on nuts and break his limbs apart while hes down or knock him out and hold him untill police comes? You do the first one even if you don't want to.

These young kids protecting the business are dealing with hundreds of complete morons everyday, these 5 made them go overboard and they lost control. Shit happens. I dont condone it but i dont make a big deal of it because im not retarded enough even on 10 beers + yaba + coke+ whatever else you can throw at me to ever be a big enough to ever make people lose control and if you are able to make people that angry you should learn to deal with the consequences on your own or move back to nanny-states where you'll be protected even though you don't deserve to be part of society.

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