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I know of 2 cases where women went abroad to work and sent money home to her family to build a house for them. In both cases the money was being gambled away by the Father. They had to stay abroad longer than intended to pay off gambling debts. Many stories of ladies having to work the bars to pay off loans on land to get the land back....and to save face for the family.

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I want to know the nitty gritty. How are they groomed? @ a party are they locked in a room and guys go in to party privately?

And @ what age?

Does it start with massages? Mentors?

Yes, the nitty gritty is so important, just like living up to your TVF name when posting replies!

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is it a western thing to care about what other pepole do? YES* and that's so annyoing..

is it Our problem ? NO*

N.O.B (NOT OUR BUSINESS)

****for those who like to put their nose into what other pepole do should move to the west where this is very common*****

another reason why i left farangland...

Boy living in Thailand has done nothing for his irritability or his spelling. Easy lad or you will have to use nitro under your tongue and that means no more viagra

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I know of one case where the girl definitely doesn't send money home to her mum. Because mum is right here in Pattaya and they do the mother-daughter act. They are very good at it too. And if anybody is doing any "pressuring" it's the daughter talking her mum into it.

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All the working girls claim they do, some do some don't.

Lived with 1 for a year,

She said, 'give me money to send home for my 14 year old daughter',

I said, 'when did you last send money back'

Her answer, 'three years ago'.

The next one I took up with appeared to send all her money home.

The family, mother, sister, brother just lived off her.

The one I married,

I send money home to her mother, 3k a month.

If the misses argues with me, mum supports me.

Mum is bought and paid for.

I'd already started to answer the OP's question. But it seems that he needs some food for some ongoing gossip.

The parents do not send the girls to a bar, they leave their village as soon as possible. Also called "mouth to mouth propaganda".

Some end up with a couple of Ping Pong Balls, some might end up with a fragging fat and bald farang, who's willing to build the second, or maybe the third house. Of course with a Pick up truck in front.

And the money the girls send is being used by almost all family members, including the producer of her kids, mama is taking care of.

Seems that the OP's" farang meeting place" needs some new gossip topics.

DISLIKE!

The OP's message that he'd know what's going on in town is totally a joke.

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When I lived in north Thailand about 6 years ago one of my Thai neighbours was a former bar girl who struck it rich and married a German banker (yes, banker). She lived in a big newly built detached house with her mother, 4 children, sister and sister's girlfriend. The mother found it difficult to change her habits to the HiSo ways of her daughter, so much so that she frequently gathered wood which she burnt in an earthwork pit to make charcoal. The big house had a superbly fitted modern kitchen, but the mother insisted on cooking outside in the traditional Thai way. As they say, you can take a person out of the jungle, but etc etc.

One thing I did find rather strange was that when the farang came for his Thai holidays, 2 of the children mysteriously disappeared, and the local vet suspended his weekly visits to inspect the cattle.

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I can't believe I have met a smart man

Yes most of them are working and lie thru there teeth to there family and keep the money and give the Falang a big cry story

They send sure but very little

Then you get the real woman has Falang BF WORKS FOR 9000 month normal job sends just about all to her child and mom and BF SUPPORTS HER..

That's a real good girl worth everything g ugly or pretty

I rather walk with a nice person than a tatted silicone liar that opens up for the world

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is it a western thing to care about what other pepole do? YES* and that's so annyoing..

is it Our problem ? NO*

N.O.B (NOT OUR BUSINESS)

****for those who like to put their nose into what other pepole do should move to the west where this is very common*****

another reason why i left farangland...

Boy living in Thailand has done nothing for his irritability or his spelling. Easy lad or you will have to use nitro under your tongue and that means no more viagra

Indeed, this thread has hit a raw nerve with old "bapoboy". I guess he is sponsoring a hooker.

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I can't believe I have met a smart man

Yes most of them are working and lie thru there teeth to there family and keep the money and give the Falang a big cry story

They send sure but very little

Then you get the real woman has Falang BF WORKS FOR 9000 month normal job sends just about all to her child and mom and BF SUPPORTS HER..

That's a real good girl worth everything g ugly or pretty

I rather walk with a nice person than a tatted silicone liar that opens up for the world

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From what I see it is only the immediate relative looking after the offspring of the girl working away. Usually 1-2,000 Baht per month.

For the working girl an iPhone seems more of a priority than family support.

Well, yes, the cell phone is a tool of the trade. So are the tablets and laptops, clothes, shoes, nails, hair, and make-up and the ever-present scooter--all of which costs.

Sure, there are those girls who use the money on themselves or their boyfriends, but many do send money home. They all have mothers who need operations, brothers who need to go to school, and sick buffaloes.

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Have not heard of any either. But in my wife's village one woman went away I believe it was Korea to work and sent her money home for her sister ti invest,for her so she would have wealth when she returned. Well the sister invested it in a land and house. When the girl came home the sister had everything in her own name and left the sister who went away to work with nothing not even a place to live.The girl now walking around the village like a vagrant and no one helps. the village men use her. This story is sad it shows me how even the family donot respect the girls that do sacrifice themselves.

I think the ones you are referring to are hill tribes.There they have people come to the tribe and get contracts from the families for the girls for 1 or 2 years. this goes within the human trafficing problem Thailand has.It is my understanding it is ran mostly by the stronger Karen tribes. these women also service just about 100% Thai clients and foreigners never see them. they are the ones that 20 years ago were chained to their beds at night.But things are changing I hope.

So what chance does a falang have.

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is it a western thing to care about what other pepole do? YES* and that's so annyoing..

is it Our problem ? NO*

N.O.B (NOT OUR BUSINESS)

****for those who like to put their nose into what other pepole do should move to the west where this is very common*****

another reason why i left farangland...

And you are trying to say Thais not care about what other Thais do .

Thais are the worst I have seen at wanting to know what other Thais do .

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I think it really depends upon the family in question.

I know that when my youngest sister in law raised the possibility of going to work in Pattaya a couple of years back, the family was very negative, and succeeded in talking her out of it.

As for sending money home to help take care of the old folks, again, don't think there is any set standard. All I can do is share my situation, it is this:

Oldest daughter (my wife) - stays home in the village to keep an eye on papa (he needs very little taking care of he's a tough, independent old goat). She doesn't give him money per se, but she does spend some of her allowance on him. She also pays his medical and life insurance policies every month, under the agreement that if she is the only one paying it, then any money left over after the old boy dies and the funeral has been paid for, is hers.

Second oldest daughter - Works in BKK in a factory, same as her husband. Rented accommodation and 10 hour shifts. Just had a new baby, also has a 12 year old daughter from a previous marriage. Until recently this daughter lived with us in the village and she did send money back each month to my wife. Daughter has now moved to BKK and she no longer sends money back.

Third oldest daughter - works for the government in Buriram, husband runs a local construction business. Paying off two (work) truck loans, and with 2 young children they are trying to put through private school. It's only been the last couple of years they have finally got their head above water, and nobody expects them to hand over any significant amount of cash, they simply have their own problems, and we are all pleased to see them trying to make a better life for themselves and their children.

Fourth oldest daughter - married a scumbag, very little education, off working in a factory in BKK. She has a 9 year old son that stays with grandpa in the village, so she does send a little money home every month because of this.

Youngest daughter - works in the Fujitsu factory somewhere around BKK. Doesn't send money home, but she did completely renovate the father's house last year. However, I later learned that as the youngest daughter, she will inherit the house when he dies, so maybe not as generous as it first appears.

Only son - runs a custom furniture business, currently in Myanmar working on a government contract. Has a young family in Buriram and is not expected to send money home to his father.

Me - I contribute a few beers to Papa now and then, oh and I bought him a bicycle a couple of years back.

My family isn't wealthy, not by a long shot. But neither are they lazy or drunken bums. It is the later I think, which is the cause for many families to rely upon being taken care of financially. They have no inclination to do it themselves.

Do you know what WORKING GIRLS infer? surely not girls working factory............hahahahahahahahaha.

Haven't been in Asia long? Working in a factory is a common euphemism for working the sex trade--as in working in a "sex factory". Not saying Cam Khao's factory working sisters-in-law are hookers; don't know them.

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I went with a gal who worked in a local go-go....she took me to her parent's two story home in the sticks that she paid for.....was the biggest and best house in the town....only draw back was that the house had no furniture inside and the mom still cooked outside.....at least until the next monthly payment arrived. 10,000 baht a month was the deal and it had been pouring in for years......

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Years ago I went to Buriram to meet the parents of a working girl that I wanted to have a relationship with. Parents were nice and I had a good time with them and other members of her family while we were there for 3 days. Thought everything was cool until she told me on our way back to Bangkok that her father told her that he didn't want her to start a relationship with me. Of course I asked "why?". And she told me straight-faced that he told her that he thought she could make a lot more money working in the bar than I provide her (which was true) and that she should keep on working in the bar. I was new to Thailand at the time and pretty much floored that a father would say that to his daughter but have realized that it does happen. We ended up having a relationship for about 18 months but it didn't last (ironically we didn't break up because of money...it was just personal differences).

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So there is no boot camp for girls? They just get thrown into the deep end of the pool- so to say?

The 'guidance' usually comes from an older 'expert' in the village or sometimes a bar owner/manager might go back and 'head-hunt' from the village that they originate from

Usually friends recruit friends. Often many girls from a bar are all from one or two villages.

Older sisters, or a cousins recruit as well. Everybody likes to work with friends. They talk up

the job to those who are at home with no money and little prospects and are bored. Every

night is a party, music, drinking, gossiping with friends, lots of money to those who get bar-fined,

the newest Apple I-phones. Everyone likes to be desired, even by fat old tourists.

A lot of friendly and not so friendly competition, and who knows maybe a sugar daddy will

cruise in one night, become smitten and you will be set for life. It has happened to tens

of thousands of other Thai women. Maybe them as well.

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»What I want to know is, does anybody have hard examples of immediate families pressuring their daughters to go to work in red-light districts, or receiving financial support directly from their working girl daughters?

Either way, hoping to hear accounts which you can vouch for to be true.«


I think it varies, depending on the individual family, as so much other in Thailand, even when talking about Law and rules; they are bended different depending where you are.


However it’s the common story we hear – that working girls support their family back home – and I know quite a number of cases of both “that story”, and the other OP mentions about (mainly) caring for her own children; furthermore there are also working girls caring for the own welfare, parents may not even know about their “well paid” work. My stories are “first hand” from people I know – but not to steal the tread completely, I shall limit myself to two examples...


Case 1:

This gorgeous looking dark girl from Chiang Mai, let’s call her Nit, was just 20 when she started to work at a southern tourist destination. She had before worked in a wood-furniture factory up north and had a boyfriend same age, 19, but not good with young boyfriend, she told me, as a young boyfriend cannot take good enough care – they were both working in the same factory making some 5,000 baht each a month (2007-2008). Nit has an older sister, married to a farang and living abroad, but now they got a baby and her sister could not send enough money home for their mom.

The mother had a child, Nit’s older sister, with a Thai man that vanished – seems like another often heard story – so their mum needed to work to provide for the child; off she went to Pattaya. During her time there she met a black American and got pregnant, which resulted in the younger daughter, Nit, who told me her story.

Mum now live back home in Chiang Mai, and she demands her 2 daughters to provide for her, she claims 7,000 baht monthly from each, or 14,000 baht in total. The bigger sister with the farang husband carried the main burden for some time, but after they got the baby, she could not provide more than her half of 7,000 baht. Nit had no other choice, than finding more income – the minium salary from factory work minus livings expenses like paying shared rent for a room and buying food, would never make it up – her solution was to finish her boyfriend, and from some “sisters” advise head south.

Nit had been working nearly half a year, when she told me her story. She did not like it and would often find an excuse for not going with a customer, as soon as she had enough money for the month. She dreamed about being nanny or house-keeper (maid) for a kind farang, providing her with room and food plus 10,000 baht a month; that would be 7,000 for mum and 3,000 for her own expenses and savings – cutting in mum’s demand were beyond question.



Case 2:

This girl from an Isaan village, I’ll call her Noi, was raped when she was just 17 – for no families to “loose face” it was agreed that she (village) married the rapist, who’s family paid sin sot in compensation. Noi moved into her husband’s parent’s house. Of course that would not last, so after a few months she left and headed back home. Her mum decided to send her to Bangkok in a nanny job, so the families did not loose face, and Noi should send her small salary home – 2,500 baht monthly at that time – as she would be provided with room and food also.

After 2 years in Bangkok Noi’s mum had found a new husband for her, a second village a marriage and some sin sot paid, and again she moved into a husband’s parent’s house in a nearby village. For some or other reason that did not last either – Noi told me her husband was drinking and seeing other girls (karaoke) – so after less than half a year, she headed back home again.

Her mum now agreed with a lady she knew in a neighboring village, that this lady’s daughter, who was working in a holiday destination south of Bangkok, should take Noi down there to work; a fee of 1,000 baht was paid and furthermore it was agreed, that if Noi should find a farang husband an additional 10,000 baht bonus should be added on top. Off Noi went, and mum followed up by asking for money weekly or monthly – however not wasted, but wisely invested in rebuilding the old wooden family-house to better standard and buying more farmland.

The happy ending is, that Noi did find a farang and today has a good life; so the lady in neighboring village got her bonus within a year – which probably ended up in lao khao, as she was a heavy drinker – and also her daughter found a farang husband, but only after working a number of years.


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Quite simply - working girls is plural - not all working girls are the same, not all of their families are the same, what they do or do not give their families, well, I am sure it is in some cases private and not anyone's business so not talked about...

It seems a little silly to try and stereotype - they are people first.

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All the working girls claim they do, some do some don't.

Lived with 1 for a year,

She said, 'give me money to send home for my 14 year old daughter',

I said, 'when did you last send money back'

Her answer, 'three years ago'.

The next one I took up with appeared to send all her money home.

The family, mother, sister, brother just lived off her.

The one I married,

I send money home to her mother, 3k a month.

If the misses argues with me, mum supports me.

Mum is bought and paid for.

And Jesus wept

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Can you give a breakdown of how many actually make money? I surmmise 30% dont make s h i t.!

How many times am I going to have to tell you that discussing prostitution on TVF is against forum rules???

This thread is about the extent to which families receive support.

If you keep posting like this you are going to get this thread shut down. Please stop!

I think you're out of luck regarding sensible responses to your post. The fact is that for many Western makes in the country the sex industry IS Thailand, they are one and the same, and they therefore view the country and its female population through the lense of the red light district, a phenomenon reflected here through the commentary of a significant number of male TV members. Sad but true.

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Can you give a breakdown of how many actually make money? I surmmise 30% dont make s h i t.!

How many times am I going to have to tell you that discussing prostitution on TVF is against forum rules???

This thread is about the extent to which families receive support.

If you keep posting like this you are going to get this thread shut down. Please stop!

I think you're out of luck regarding sensible responses to your post. The fact is that for many Western makes in the country the sex industry IS Thailand, they are one and the same, and they therefore view the country and its female population through the lense of the red light district, a phenomenon reflected here through the commentary of a significant number of male TV members. Sad but true.

Some , like me, want to know the down and dirty of a down and dirty industry! Its just fascinating. So many view boom booming as a big party. How do they get like that? Theyre offended if you say they are pretty but dont want to insert anything into any part of their being.

And no they dont seem to be on druggs!

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Don't you just love people, especially foreigners, extrapolating their anecdotal, blinkered experiences. Into incontrovertible societal generalizations? Somebody lives "in the village" for awhile and is suddenly the Jacques Cousteau of rural existence.

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