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The difference between now and then is that the Ministry of the Interior have now approved the immigrations proposal.

You mean there's one line in the news saying that's the case. What has actually happened we don't know. Don't believe everything you read in the media.

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If it hasn't been mentioned yet, the Bangkok Post just posted an article on subject at 7:26pm. Sorry...can't post the link...go to the Bangkok Post website.

The article said PM Prayut approved the immigration proposal on 27 Nov to fine and blacklist overstayers. The article also talks about it as a "regulation"; not a law.

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Quality visitors do not overstay any ware for 5 years and as for the insignificant 20000 baht fines should be raised to 1000000 baht that might be a deterrent to the reprobate over stayers and keep the small trivial fines 20000 for not wearing seatbelts or not wearing a certified crash helmet while riding a motorbike.

The last of the high rollers speaks. As the man stated has any of these overstays effected you? Your acting like a Christmas Grinch show a little forgiveness that is why a certain someone died for you. Throwing figures like a million bahts around really shows that your like the star in the movie I watched the other night (for the 5th) time. 1975 The Man Who Would Be King. Your really showing your dark side in making comments like that.

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This is long overdue.

No point to having a rgulation that is not properly enforced.

Properly enforcing regulations require organization and uniformity in order to be effective. Typically, responsibility and accountability from all parties involved yield positive results.

It's apparent that these traits have been elusive and the results of arbitrary lawmaking continue to confuse and frustrate.

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wasn't this addressed not so long ago,and the main overstayers were Burmese and lao people,and farang overstayers were very small????

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wasn't this addressed not so long ago,and the main overstayers were Burmese and lao people,and farang overstayers were very small????

Laotians overstay all the time and when they do go back to Laos they pay a minimal fine, irrespective of how long they've overstayed.

I doubt the new penalties will ever come fully into effect, but even if they do, I suspect overstaying Laotians will get off lightly.

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wasn't this addressed not so long ago,and the main overstayers were Burmese and lao people,and farang overstayers were very small????

True.

But Burmese people don't hang around on TVF to whine.

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"The existing law is weak,

Could that not be said about every aspect of life in Thailand other than defamation and article 112?

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Aint gonna happen they need to change thai immigration laws (to make over stay a CRIMINAL offence) and what they propose is against the United Nations signatory that Thailand signed up to be a member of

Still the next 70 pages will be interesting as usualcoffee1.gif

This has nothing to do with the EU. Singapore, jails overstays for a minimum of 6 months, cane them and then ban them for 5 years of entering Singapore. Malaysia has the same laws and the UN has nothing to do with it.

Agree that it has nothing to do with EU (though I think the poster said UN, not quite the same) & if it was then every country would be guilty of the same charge of deporting/blacklisting people who abuse their visa system.

But going to call BS on Singapore Imprisoning/Caning people as the reality is that they stick you in their IDC equivalent until you can pay for a flight out, no further fine but you will get ban of 1-10years depending on the individual circumstances.

Any ban of any kind & you have to seek permission from Singapore ICA before you can come back...

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What's a "quality visitor" and how will they be screened? ... This is a good step though, and should be followed up with a total ban on visa runners who are abusing the regulations.

Visa Exempts are already tracked and scrutinized. If they considered what those on repeat TVs do "abuse" they would simply state a max per-year on TVs. If 9-mo max, I would plan a time when my GF and I would spend 3 months out of country.

Downside is, she would hate it. More suffering on her part than mine, so be careful what you wish for - given who it is most likely to be harmed the most.

There again there will be some who have nothing, or no one to go back to!

You are singing my tune - I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to return to the nation of my birth. Thankfully, I have the means to travel for visas, or relocate to another nation if that fails.

Believe it or not all the time I have been in Thailand, I only had one overstay, and that was because ....... on the day I had to go, I waited and waited (at 6:30am) for the Van to pick me up, but it didn't show up. Called the contact number but no one answered (no surprise there wink.png). Waited till 8:00am and made my way to the company and there they told me the Van broke down.

Did my Run the next day and the company even paid for mine and all the other guys overstay. So you see an accidental overstay CAN happen. wai.gif

There are these things called "busses" that run from "bus stations" and some of those head to border-towns ... Ok, I don't know where you live, so maybe that wasn't an option - but had me thinking what I would do at about 7:30AM that morning - if I hadn't already left 3 days prior.

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The only question that remains (for me that is) what happens if you have 1 day overstay, because for example your Border Run bus breaks down etc etc.

The rules mentioned before did not start the banning until 90 days was reached.

This article only mentions one year or more.

So 80 days of overstay and you're still good to go? No ban at all until 90 days?

The bans proposed by immigration had no ban for overstaying under 90 days IF you surrendered. But if arrested you could be banned even if the overstay was 1 day. Based on the OP the proposed rules have been amended so that only someone overstaying more than 1 year gets banned.

Bangkok Post says differently today.

"For cases of surrender, those who overstay their visa by up to one year will receive a one-year re-entry ban, and for more than one year they will be banned from re-entering Thailand for three years."

Sorry to use Bangkok Post as a source, I guess that is inappropriate. But it is just to avoid some misunderstanding in this matter.

The Nation let the above text out, but it doesn`t mean that it`s not there.

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Funny ... The Thai Visa Terrorism Experts seem to have gone to sleep.

Am I the only one who thinks it is brillaint to finally take inventory of foreigners and find out who the hell is in the Kingdom?

Is is lost on everyone that this creates a scenerio where the police can walk up and demand to see your papers and have a "regulation" they need to enforce?

If you are a person who is stuck on overstay with nothing to really hide, go immedialty and pay the fine and straighten it out.

By the way, to others like me who are here on retirement visas ... get down off your high horses ... for us .. it is incredibly easy to be here.

Imagine yourself 30 years old, and wanting to stay here for plenty of great reasons .. you too would have been tempted to play the 20,000 THB, catch me if you can game.

Stop with your high and mighty attitude if you are lucky enough to have a retirement visa.

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I'd wait until it the royal decree is actually published.

I wonder about people who started their overstay before March 2016.

If it affected me (it doesn't) I certainly wouldn't wait until the last minute.

Overstayers have been given virtually a 3 month grace period to get sorted out after which there will be no excuse.

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