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Smoke, Smog, Dust 2016-2017 Chiang Mai

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The official No Burning season is supposed to start on Feb 20........but I've also heard March 1. Burners are hurrying to get the job done before then.....or so the story goes. Lookiing forward  to Feb20 to see if anything changes. Any optimists out there in Chiangmailand?

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Ned said:

 

The official No Burning season is supposed to start on Feb 20........but I've also heard March 1. Burners are hurrying to get the job done before then.....or so the story goes. Lookiing forward  to Feb20 to see if anything changes. Any optimists out there in Chiangmailand?

 

 

I'm certainly optimistic....but also realistic.  Hopefully things will improve, if even a little bit.

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3 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

I'm certainly optimistic....but also realistic.  Hopefully things will improve, if even a little bit.

They haven't even started on the forests yet :)

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Just flew in yesterday. On the plane about 5 minutes before landing in daylight a large agricultural burn could be seen.
Huge smoke, open flames.
 
One would figure the Army would go arrest the burners.
If you look on the west side of Route 107, often enough, you see the boys in green doing large burnoffs annually. No doubt this year will be in the tradition.

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Yes, Bangkok is worse than Chiang Mai currently.

 

And Chiang Mai air will improve considerably (averages out of the red) by mid-April, about 2 months from now.

 

In between that time there will be some bad spells, some okay-ish spells, and some VERY bad spells.

 

18 hours ago, Ned said:

The official No Burning season is supposed to start on Feb 20........but I've also heard March 1. Burners are hurrying to get the job done before then.....or so the story goes. Lookiing forward  to Feb20 to see if anything changes. Any optimists out there in Chiangmailand?

 

 

I think you mean burning ban?  It starts 1 March this year. 

 

And a burning ban does look like it has positive effects. They've only had it for the last two years though, and all kinds of things have an impact so it's hard to say for sure.  (Correlation does not imply causation) 

 

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Though the Unhealthy bar has been raised (again) most schools have "indoors sport day" on days like these.... I was watching the Thai news the other day .... Chiang Mai was worse than Bangkok except for Din Daeng roadside BUT Chiang Mai was not mentioned. Many expats that have been here a while know of news blackouts for one event or another and the message "someone" might be trying to get across to Joe Public.

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Just wait for the rains and then declare a burning ban.

Success guaranteed.

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^  Burning ban starts March 1st. 

 

Daily AQI averages are out of the red by mid April.

 

Regularly scheduled rain begins in May or so.

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I ordered  this for 200.00 usd and hopefully it works well.

Now Xiaomi Mi Air Purifier 2S sterilizer addition to Formaldehyde cleaning Intelligent Household Hepa Filter Smart APP WIFI RC

 

Been noticing that Chiang Rai air is much better than Chiang Mai.  Haven't watched the full burning season cycle so wondering if that

holds up over time or is just a fluke. Certainly they have less traffic.

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Looks nice, and i like the Xiaomi brand.   Do make sure that you can easily order replacement filters when deciding on any air filter. 

 

Also there is a Toshiba unit on Lazada right now for a good price, around 3600 Baht.  Not quite as fancy but it does the job.   (I've had one for a couple years.)

 

Toshiba air purifier on Lazada

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This fungal enzyme can transform wood into fuel. Would this work to offer a viable option for farmers  that burn plant matter in Asia? Not sure if wood and plant matter would be equally broken down in the same manner. I am not a biologist.

 

The research, reported in Nature Chemical Biology, has shown that the family of enzymes, called lytic polysaccharide monooxygenases (LPMOs), are capable of breaking down xylans -- carbohydrate molecules commonly found in wood biomass that are particularly resistant to degradation. (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180216110522.htm)

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Thai's enjoy lighting fires. That's why they do it. It's not a necessity. So there is no point in coming up with better alternatives because they don't care. It makes them perfectly happy to burn things their entire lives and pass it on to the next generation.

 

As for Chiang Rai the air is comparable to elsewhere in the north; bad half the year and horrible at times. I vividly recall my final trip to Chiang Rai. Forget seeing the mountains, visibility was just so bad, just a few hundred meters and the atmosphere was as if a volcano had erupted nearby. There was absolutely nowhere a person could go to escape the stench. Fires were being lit all over the place, even the hotel burned giant amounts of plastic in a pit nearby. I couldn't wait to get out of there and get back to Bangkok for the air. I know it sounds absurd to want to go to the smoggiest city to breath again, but it was true. And when I got to Bangkok the air seemed like heaven in comparison and I could sleep again.

 

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yah whats with the air in Chiang Rai?? I don't get it. Are they not cleaning the machinery that measures this stuff? Are the vehicles and factories the real problem in CM?

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1 hour ago, elephant45 said:

yah whats with the air in Chiang Rai?? I don't get it. Are they not cleaning the machinery that measures this stuff? Are the vehicles and factories the real problem in CM?

I'm not in Chiang Rai, but monitoring the air stats daily I see it is much better than CM or Bangkok.  So you're suggesting the measurements aren't measuring properly and the air is foul like CM?    Was thinking I'd go there for a couple days just to check it out personally.  I had planned on not spending the dirty air season here in CM but plans got screwed up so one more time I choke through it.

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