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Every year the banks and the drug stores give out free calendars. Next year, maybe get one.

It was a deliberate overstay. Laotians don't consider it a big deal at all, unlike farang on messageboards. Strange that.

I was not referring to your Lao girl who obviously has other means at her disposal than does most of the rest of us. I just read the regs -- I let others be concerned about their implementation as it does not affect me.

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Every year the banks and the drug stores give out free calendars. Next year, maybe get one.

It was a deliberate overstay. Laotians don't consider it a big deal at all, unlike farang on messageboards. Strange that.

There's nothing strange. An older report on another recent thread was estimating overstay foreigners at about 60,000 and people without documentation and their families from Lao, Cambodia and Myanmar at 1.4 million if I recall correctly. Go to many restaurants and you will find Burmese serving at the table not Thai.

Why are the authorities allowing it? Because they like cheaper labor from neigboring countries for jobs that Thai people have become too fussy to do.

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@jspill

It's not worth potentially getting someone into trouble just to prove a point to people on a forum.

Agreed. Or posting a comment about a Laos national that has probably paid her way, like many others, into the country. She didn't use her passport so the blacklisting is not even worth mentioning.

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Can someone explain something to me please.If someone is on overstay now even for a week they will get banned for a year or 5 if caught.If dont get caught and provided they have not overstayed for 90 days then there will be no ban?

Probably because the authorities want to reduce overstaying without banning tens of thousands of overstaying visitors. The risk of bans will deter many.

If caught you have to be prosecuted, via the court, before getting banned.

What happened to you has happened countless times in the past and the new bans don't change anything. IMO people will be treated exactly the same if caught, but I do expect those that go through the court system to get banned.

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It seems if you show up at an airport or maybe other port of exit with less than a 90 day overstay there is no ban imposed -- just the fine. But that takes away the financial incentive for someone to deliberately go on overstay because there was a calculation that 20K would be less than you would spend on visas and extensions let alone other related expenses for multiple years.

Also the penalties may be different for the airport vs. being caught elsewhere because, if you are at the airport, then you were obviously intending to end your overstay but, if you are caught elsewhere, then you may have had no intention to do so.

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I guess it should be noted, the new overstay policy is in effect starting NOW!!!!!

Did you have a mild thrill of self importance when you typed that? Do you march about your house making 'official' sounding statements?

"The fridge is now CLOSED!!!'' "The bog is officially FLUSHED!!!'' "The wife has now left ME!!!"

A great shame.

Boasting and bragging about how you break laws and manage to get away with it does not impress the majority of us who make great efforts to live within the law.

I don't see the problem with those boasting... Even if it's to boast and brag of their supposed "efforts" to live within the law(s) that you feel the need to share with everyone..

You felt the need to share your story... Less of an impressive accomplishment to just obey the laws.. But if it was an effort for you to follow, then I do see your point of whining of what others got away with..

Those that have cleared mulitiple years on an overstay, -- Now is the time to share their stories..

Share their stories, especially to those that refused to clear their overstays and should really be living in fear of getting caught and not being able to return for years..

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Every year the banks and the drug stores give out free calendars. Next year, maybe get one.

It was a deliberate overstay. Laotians don't consider it a big deal at all, unlike farang on messageboards. Strange that.

Very true. My family are all Laotians living in Thailand. Some do monthly border runs, some just overstay and some don't even have passports. None of them seem very concerned about anything visa related!

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Every year the banks and the drug stores give out free calendars. Next year, maybe get one.

It was a deliberate overstay. Laotians don't consider it a big deal at all, unlike farang on messageboards. Strange that.

Very true. My family are all Laotians living in Thailand. Some do monthly border runs, some just overstay and some don't even have passports. None of them seem very concerned about anything visa related!

Maybe you should warn the family !

The new overstay rules apply to everyone ---------not just Western "guests" !

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Maybe you should warn the family !

The new overstay rules apply to everyone ---------not just Western "guests" !

I think they're ok, the rules are targeted to "wealthier Western guests".

Wealthy=Falang in Thailand.

No, it's not a joke nor an inflamatory post, it's the reality.

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Those that have cleared mulitiple years on an overstay, -- Now is the time to share their stories..

Share their stories, especially to those that refused to clear their overstays and should really be living in fear of getting caught and not being able to return for years..

I already shared the tale of the two people I personally knew/assisted who were on then cleared lengthy overstays earlier in this thread, One has returned to Thailand since, one has yet to return but will do later in the year.

Do you have anything to share?

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Every year the banks and the drug stores give out free calendars. Next year, maybe get one.

It was a deliberate overstay. Laotians don't consider it a big deal at all, unlike farang on messageboards. Strange that.

Very true. My family are all Laotians living in Thailand. Some do monthly border runs, some just overstay and some don't even have passports. None of them seem very concerned about anything visa related!

Maybe you should warn the family !

The new overstay rules apply to everyone ---------not just Western "guests" !

I make sure my immediate family follow the rules. The rest of them look after themselves! In the past, even long-term overstayers only paid a token fine. I can't see many bans being given.

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Very true. My family are all Laotians living in Thailand. Some do monthly border runs, some just overstay and some don't even have passports. None of them seem very concerned about anything visa related!

Even if blacklisted, it would be pretty easy for them to sneak back in. They also tend to blend in pretty easily. Their only major problem with being here illegally is that they are easily exploited by employers.

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So the message (at least some want) to convey here is that, if you are a Lao citizen on overstay, blacklisted from entering or having otherwise entered The Kingdom illegally, no-big-deal -- but most likely those reading here ain't no Lao citizen.

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Very true. My family are all Laotians living in Thailand. Some do monthly border runs, some just overstay and some don't even have passports. None of them seem very concerned about anything visa related!

Even if blacklisted, it would be pretty easy for them to sneak back in. They also tend to blend in pretty easily. Their only major problem with being here illegally is that they are easily exploited by employers.

Right, and really it'd be easy for anyone to just walk across the border at Nong Khai, it's been done before by Thaivisa posters (not for devious reasons). Well documented how easy it is.

So the message that (at least some want) to convey here is that, if you are a Lao citizen on overstay, blacklisted from entering or having otherwise entered The Kingdom illegally, no-big-deal -- but most likely those reading here ain't no Lao citizen.

No, the message is that pure overstay - i.e. not being one of 'transnational criminals' while on overstay that Thailand is most concerned about - is just an administrative infraction, and not the crime of the century. The reason I point it out is because some posters here want any overstayer to be banned for life, out of some ethical stance - because it 'shows disrespect to the host nation you're a guest in' or other platitudes.

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It is the regulation. How you choose to characterize it is up to you. If you overstay for more than 90 days now, whatever the circumstance, you will receive a minimum one-year ban on re-entering the Kingdom which was not the case before this past March 20.

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