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Working in sarasas witaed Ratchaphruek school

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There is no AirCon in the classrooms and the doors are required to remain open, so then every room is very loud because the students non-stop talk. The school employs maybe a couple hundred teachers, there are many rules for the teachers, the foreign teachers are treated like foreigners. In general, to me, the school seemed to be a money focused (get kids into English program), and does not value teachers. The kids are very very rude and majority of them are not interested in learning, but rather talking and goofing off. Many of the teachers I spoke with were not happy at the school either. It was a real stressful experience for me.

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Sports day on the 20th School asked for food and drink donations from the parents, seems a bit much considering the fees

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A friend of mine has his son at one of the Sarasas schools in Chiang Mai and he is happy enough with the education. I know an non-native-speaking chap who teaches at another Sarasas school and his English is far from fluent. i wouldn't want him teaching my child English!

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Sports day on the 20th School asked for food and drink donations from the parents, seems a bit much considering the fees

Can you divulge the fees here? It's quite common for parents to make donations of this sort. Not everyone, but a few. Or they set up booths to sell food to the kids on that day. Happens at my school.

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The location in Thanyaburi got all the children in the school to donate 5 baht each so they could rent tents. The whole organization are cheapskates.

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I was told 40k a term for a 3 year old, seems rather a lot in Pra Samut Chedi

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I spoke with a former employee last week. He said the director left and it's gone downhill. Her 3 letter name started with a B and ended with an M. He's at a different Sarasass now.

If you live at the school, they close the gate at 7 pm. People are climbing the fence to get back in after a grocery run. They nickle and dime you with cleaning fees.

Maintenance will enter your home when you are not there.

They feed you, but it's the same crap, day in and day out.

First year at the school, you do not get a paid summer. You have to work, or you do not get paid.

There is an American manager, who may or may not still be there, who told me that he conspired with the police to put someone in jail. The police put some yaba on a Thai. This was in his personal life, but to me that's a bridge you do not cross.

I'm trying to think of something good to say. Can I get back to you? coffee1.gif

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I spoke with a former employee last week. He said the director left and it's gone downhill. Her 3 letter name started with a B and ended with an M. He's at a different Sarasass now.

If you live at the school, they close the gate at 7 pm. People are climbing the fence to get back in after a grocery run. They nickle and dime you with cleaning fees.

Maintenance will enter your home when you are not there.

They feed you, but it's the same crap, day in and day out.

First year at the school, you do not get a paid summer. You have to work, or you do not get paid.

There is an American manager, who may or may not still be there, who told me that he conspired with the police to put someone in jail. The police put some yaba on a Thai. This was in his personal life, but to me that's a bridge you do not cross.

I'm trying to think of something good to say. Can I get back to you? coffee1.gif

Some half-truths. I don't know this school, but I do know some of the higher up admin from Sarasas school system. There are variables in how they are implemented. Some school housing does close the gate at a specific time. One school closes them at 10:00. A lot of the schools have housing not on the school campus and have no rules. Food at most schools is crap and I have eaten at a lot of different schools. Most pay a housing allowance to those that do not live in school housing.

Teachers get paid for summer school sessions. The first year you are required to do the summer session and then after that you may have to work or you may not -- it varies with different schools. Most give a bonus payment for those who have already worked, but the first year you work for normal wages only.

Some years ago the very higher-ups did away with foreign administration. There were only a couple of Heads of English Studies, or Foreign studies and one of them recently died. Some schools have a foreign coordinator, but they have very limited decision making power.

Some schools have a Mini-English component and some have an International Program. The IP usually has A/C in the classrooms.

If you can talk to any of the current teachers, you will get a better feel for the conditions. Most schools have positives and negatives. It's a matter of weighing those which are most important and getting a good fit with the school.

One of the problems of working in any Thai enterprise is that so much depends on personalities. You can do your job very well, but if they don't like you, your tenure can be short and miserable. Some directors and admin are kinder, understanding and empathetic. Others are mean-spirited and unhelpful.

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I spoke with a former employee last week. He said the director left and it's gone downhill. Her 3 letter name started with a B and ended with an M. He's at a different Sarasass now.

If you live at the school, they close the gate at 7 pm. People are climbing the fence to get back in after a grocery run. They nickle and dime you with cleaning fees.

Maintenance will enter your home when you are not there.

They feed you, but it's the same crap, day in and day out.

First year at the school, you do not get a paid summer. You have to work, or you do not get paid.

There is an American manager, who may or may not still be there, who told me that he conspired with the police to put someone in jail. The police put some yaba on a Thai. This was in his personal life, but to me that's a bridge you do not cross.

I'm trying to think of something good to say. Can I get back to you? coffee1.gif

Some half-truths. I don't know this school, but I do know some of the higher up admin from Sarasas school system. There are variables in how they are implemented. Some school housing does close the gate at a specific time. One school closes them at 10:00. A lot of the schools have housing not on the school campus and have no rules. Food at most schools is crap and I have eaten at a lot of different schools. Most pay a housing allowance to those that do not live in school housing.

Teachers get paid for summer school sessions. The first year you are required to do the summer session and then after that you may have to work or you may not -- it varies with different schools. Most give a bonus payment for those who have already worked, but the first year you work for normal wages only.

Some years ago the very higher-ups did away with foreign administration. There were only a couple of Heads of English Studies, or Foreign studies and one of them recently died. Some schools have a foreign coordinator, but they have very limited decision making power.

Some schools have a Mini-English component and some have an International Program. The IP usually has A/C in the classrooms.

If you can talk to any of the current teachers, you will get a better feel for the conditions. Most schools have positives and negatives. It's a matter of weighing those which are most important and getting a good fit with the school.

One of the problems of working in any Thai enterprise is that so much depends on personalities. You can do your job very well, but if they don't like you, your tenure can be short and miserable. Some directors and admin are kinder, understanding and empathetic. Others are mean-spirited and unhelpful.

Scott, I know this particular school. There once was a day when I was a teacher. (I needed a visa to tide me over until retirement age)

I've read some of the things you post about HR in Thai schools, and personally, I don't see how you do it.

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Thanks. Some days it's an exciting challenge. Some days it's a major frustration. Today is the latter! But at least it's Friday.biggrin.png

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This is the one near us in pra samut chedi, not seen many foreign teacher but the sports one looked rather depressed in Dec! Ah some UK guys at 13 min cooking up the grub

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if you want your kid to learn to dance this might be the place, first troupe are exceptional, some professionals could learn from those kids

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This is the one near us in pra samut chedi, not seen many foreign teacher but the sports one looked rather depressed in Dec! Ah some UK guys at 13 min cooking up the grub

What the hell does putting together a lego set have to do with Mathematics?

Only at Sarasas would they think such a thing.

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This is the one near us in pra samut chedi, not seen many foreign teacher but the sports one looked rather depressed in Dec! Ah some UK guys at 13 min cooking up the grub

Disclaimer:

All food and ingredients paid for by the parents of the students, as well as the Thai and foreign teachers.

All proceeds from the sale of said foods goes directly into the pockets of management.

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