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I find that marinated liver does the trick. you can easily take out care of the entire soi dog population with a few kg of lovingly prepared liver. I got bitten at the last place I lived, so did a preemptive strike before I moved to this place

Yeah,sure you did.

No really, he did.

Then, right after he posted this, I went over to his house and killed him for killing my dog.

Louse: I have two preferred brands of marinate, one a weedkiller and the other a rat poison. Interested? By the way, I've done another cull since, and will continue to do them whenever the need arises

Jackson: This post suggests you got the wrong man. Try again, I'm in Phitsanulok if you want to try it away from the keyboard

Not my soi, not my janwaat, not my story.

If it were, we would surely have a face-to-face about it.

How would that come out? I have no idea.

Would anyone end up hurt, or dead, over a dog? I doubt it.

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Was walking thru a neighborhood, a rather upscale neighborhood actually, with a friend the other day when we encountered a small pack of soi dogs. They were "interested" in but not really bothering us when a local happened by. 'Don't really think the dogs were much of a threat to him either (unless he knew something we didn't know...), but the 1st thing we knew he'd picked up a rock, thrown it, and hit one of the dogs. That scattered them pretty darned quickly. They got the message alright, but only after one had actually been hit. To me, it seemed like this was just SOP & a well-oiled preventive measure - habit might be a better word - for the local.

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Was walking thru a neighborhood, a rather upscale neighborhood actually, with a friend the other day when we encountered a small pack of soi dogs. They were "interested" in but not really bothering us when a local happened by. 'Don't really think the dogs were much of a threat to him either (unless he knew something we didn't know...), but the 1st thing we knew he'd picked up a rock, thrown it, and hit one of the dogs. That scattered them pretty darned quickly. They got the message alright, but only after one had actually been hit. To me, it seemed like this was just SOP & a well-oiled preventive measure - habit might be a better word - for the local.

I may try that when down near Nana Plaza next time.....if it works for dogs surely it will work for man eating sharks ?

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It's the Thai home security system.

It works!

Pepper spray would work against them, but the neighbors probably wouldn't like their dogs yelping like that and may come after you themselves.

You'd only have to hit them once with it in the face.

Yikes. You can't go around hitting the local natives. blink.png

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I had a similar problem when I first moved out to the village. After about 2 weeks of being chased down the sou wvery night on my motorbike, I had enough. One night I brought back so scraps from my dinner and fed the dogs outside my gate. Problem solved! Since then they run to GREET me whenever they see/hear me approaching. I fed them about once or twice a week. Friends for life.

And people on this forum criticize the Thai's for their lack of critical thinking skills ,Every high school kid of average intelligence knows that: Food supply, along with predators and occasionally disease, determine the size of a population.

For anyone of extremely low intelligence, I will simplify

Dogs + food = more dogs

Want me to draw you a picture?

If feeding the dogs means that they don't attack me, then I'm quite happy to throw them the left-overs a few times a week. Go figure...

Most of the dogs in the village seem to have been spayed - I've only seen one single litter of pups in the 18 months I've lived there.

Personally, I prefer animals in general, and dogs in particular, over grumpy farts any day of the week.

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I had a similar problem when I first moved out to the village. After about 2 weeks of being chased down the sou wvery night on my motorbike, I had enough. One night I brought back so scraps from my dinner and fed the dogs outside my gate. Problem solved! Since then they run to GREET me whenever they see/hear me approaching. I fed them about once or twice a week. Friends for life.

And people on this forum criticize the Thai's for their lack of critical thinking skills ,Every high school kid of average intelligence knows that: Food supply, along with predators and occasionally disease, determine the size of a population.

For anyone of extremely low intelligence, I will simplify

Dogs + food = more dogs

Want me to draw you a picture?

If feeding the dogs means that they don't attack me, then I'm quite happy to throw them the left-overs a few times a week. Go figure...

Most of the dogs in the village seem to have been spayed - I've only seen one single litter of pups in the 18 months I've lived there.

Personally, I prefer animals in general, and dogs in particular, over grumpy farts any day of the week.

Not just about feeding them they have to.associate the food from you with kindness and that will in turn stop the dogs seeing you as a territorial encroacher And ultimate stop them seeing you as a threat.

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I had a similar problem when I first moved out to the village. After about 2 weeks of being chased down the sou wvery night on my motorbike, I had enough. One night I brought back so scraps from my dinner and fed the dogs outside my gate. Problem solved! Since then they run to GREET me whenever they see/hear me approaching. I fed them about once or twice a week. Friends for life.

And people on this forum criticize the Thai's for their lack of critical thinking skills ,Every high school kid of average intelligence knows that: Food supply, along with predators and occasionally disease, determine the size of a population.

For anyone of extremely low intelligence, I will simplify

Dogs + food = more dogs

Want me to draw you a picture?

If feeding the dogs means that they don't attack me, then I'm quite happy to throw them the left-overs a few times a week. Go figure...

Most of the dogs in the village seem to have been spayed - I've only seen one single litter of pups in the 18 months I've lived there.

Personally, I prefer animals in general, and dogs in particular, over grumpy farts any day of the week.

Not just about feeding them they have to.associate the food from you with kindness and that will in turn stop the dogs seeing you as a territorial encroacher And ultimate stop them seeing you as a threat.

Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Perhaps I should let them chew off an arm as a show of good faith ?

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At night the home owners let their dogs out to do defecate in the soi. these dogs usually know their family but strangers beware....next time walk with protection like a large stick. usually the soi dogs (stray) want food so they will be friendly....ie not bite the hand that feeds them.

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Village dogs are not strays, they are taken care of because they help with security.

In the villages people are usually in bed by 10pm so after dark there are very few people around. Those that do pass through are almost always in a pick up truck or on a bike and they pass by quickly. By walking slowly into the dog's territory you are a potential threat. This is the dog's chance to put you in your place, ie. away from its territory, and almost anyone except those who misunderstand where they are (in a foreign land) understands this.

Furthermore, after dark is the time when dogs own the village. It's not just about protecting territory from suspicious strangers: usually some time between 11pm and midnight the animals of the village, the dogs, buffalo and cockerels will have a mad half hour. This is their time to broadcast across the neighbourhood and be answered by their peers because sound can travel more clearly once the people are asleep. Thus there is all manner of howling, mooing and crowing but it usually lasts no more than thirty minutes. Once you understand village life you will know that mad half hour is like a curfew call to all drunken foreigners who have ventured out of their depth.

I think this is nuts. Not you of course, but the village concept.

If I have a dog on my property behind my fence it will alert me to a stranger. It doesn't need to and shouldn't run loose and intimidate people. Some of those people are children. If someone lets a dog run loose and intimidate people on property other than the owner's, it's the owner who is asking for trouble. Unfortunately it's the dog that gets the trouble in the form of a stick or a rock or a bullet.

I have no obligation to put up with being harassed in an intimidating way via someone's else's choice to let that dog run free. What am I supposed to do - wait until the dog bites me before I decide it's dangerous?

I've killed just one dog in my life and if I had it over I'd do it again. I was convinced I was about to get mauled. All other dogs I've encountered I've managed to deal with.

This is without even getting started about dogs that run loose on property where there are sheep or cattle. They have a very short lifespan.

Cheers.

The village dogs don't attack anybody at day times. They are barking and walking towards to mostly (to the dog not known) strangers/people only at nights. So, yes, children get attacked by dogs but must be in other circumstances. Never saw a kid walking around in the village after 8.00 pm.

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No, a good dog, and I mean a dog that inherited a good temperament won't attack a human. It sees the human as its leader and it is a pack animal by nature.

In the West dogs are often bred for temperament and bad ones are culled by at least sterilizing. Most breeders are responsible. In Thailand you get what you get and the worst become the dominate pack leaders.

I killed a rottweiler a few years back that I was certain was readying a viscous attack. I was running my Bobcat excavator at the time and I simply shot him, dug his grave, pushed him in with the bucket and covered him up. Although what I did was legal I didn't want neighbors who owned him upset with me.

I don't know what to tell you, as in a civilized country such dogs are impounded and if not claimed and after paying a stiff fine by the owner, they are put down.

It has nothing to do with "good" dog or "bad" dog, it's how the dog was brought up. Generally, the dog sees his owner as the pack leader, not any human as the pack leader. And if the owner did his job correctly, the dog will see the rest of the family members as higher above it in the pack and will not harm them. However, a stranger passing near the dog's territory will be seen by the dog as an intruder that has to be guarded against.

This just isn't true. I grew up on a wheat and cattle ranch in the W. USA and we had a bunch of cattle dogs at all times. They were valuable and bred, bought, and traded for inheriting a submissive temperament. You can test a very young pup for temperament just as you can an adult dog if you're buying it for any purpose not limited to breeding.

One good test is the Volhard’s Puppy Aptitude Testing found HERE

Scroll about half way down the page to see the test and then continue on how to read the results. You can tell if the temperament is friendly, aggressive vs submissive and so on. The dog must be born knowing to be submissive to a human.

Responsible dog breeders do such a test and do.not.breed an aggressive dog. Irresponsible breeders may include some who breed rotties and pit bulls for aggressiveness and this is why those breeds too often get a bad name.

If you are getting a dog for a pet it is very wise to know how to test it for temperament so that it will be safe around all people including children.

Cheers.

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Dog temperament is a combination of breeding and training.

Certain breeds carry tendencies for aggression, to be sure.

Any dog, any breed, can be made aggressive by abuse.

You are mistaken. Temperament is what a dog is born with. If that wasn't true you couldn't temperament test a puppy taken straight from its mother. This is its basic nature. You can't make "any" dog aggressive by abuse. A dog with a very submissive temperament may well become withdrawn and afraid and go into avoidance mode. It may simply cower down if it can't run away.

You can't make a submissive dog aggressive but you might abuse it to where it might bite out of fear in what it believes is self defense. Fear/self defense and aggression are two different things. An aggressive dog may single out a stranger and pursue and bite for no apparent reason. A submissive dog would have to be cornered to where it can't run and at the same time be very afraid of what was being done to it if it was to bite at all.

Dog breeders and trainers know that temperament can be bred into a dog by choosing parents carefully, and responsible ones do just that.

A dog that's born with an aggressive temperament may seem fine if not tested, but may some day just up and bite someone badly and "surprise" everyone.

Cheers.

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the most intelligent defence against thai dogs treats is to throw water at them..i wonder i didn't see this answer through the experienced farangs posts here... whistling.gif

my , and best advice then is always carrying a bottle of water ! much more efficiency and conveniant to carry than a stick wink.png

i ignore the gun , meat or viet-nam friends methods.... supposed it was humour .

must add that water doesn't work against tigers wink.png

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actually this brought back memories... a big dog used to patrol his street along the road I lived.. it was his job..

Thus after work I bought food for the dog..and we formed an alliance as friends.. it was funny... I would see this dog waiting for me... .. we go through the routine.. I drop the food by his feet.. he gobbles it down.. and he would escort me to my house.. this went on for about 6 months..until he was....thumbsup.gif

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actually this brought back memories... a big dog used to patrol his street along the road I lived.. it was his job..

Thus after work I bought food for the dog..and we formed an alliance as friends.. it was funny... I would see this dog waiting for me... .. we go through the routine.. I drop the food by his feet.. he gobbles it down.. and he would escort me to my house.. this went on for about 6 months..until he was....thumbsup.gif

Food?
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actually this brought back memories... a big dog used to patrol his street along the road I lived.. it was his job..

Thus after work I bought food for the dog..and we formed an alliance as friends.. it was funny... I would see this dog waiting for me... .. we go through the routine.. I drop the food by his feet.. he gobbles it down.. and he would escort me to my house.. this went on for about 6 months..until he was....thumbsup.gif

Food?

up north..

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