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Going Down: Businesses on Phuket’s famed Bangla Rd suffer as clientele dries up

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Has rent for smaller venues dropped, has the price of beer dropped, has the price of

bar-fines dropped ? Has the amount in police/government officials payoffs decreased ?

My guess is no to all of the above so there must be no problem with business.

Everybody wants everyone else to lower there prices to save money while they maintain

or increase prices. Look at the recent government proposal to charge tourists 360 baht

on every entry to (fatten government officials bank accounts) clean tourist sites. (At which

they already pay a "special" Farang" rate already.) The TAT will soon learn, when the

camels back is broken it is broken. People are creatures of habit. If they have a good

time, feel they are getting good value, they will return. You can turn the screws for some

time after they are hooked but at a point you will loose the clientele. Once you loose

someone they do not come back, often ever. And they tell everyone of the new place

they have discovered. I really do think Thailand has reached that point. The only rapidly

expanding market is China. With there proximity, short junkets, and hard bargaining

package tour operators it will be tough for many Thai tourist business. coffee1.gif

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Well you wanted quality tourists Now you have them !!!! The TOT has been successful in increasing the number or tourist coming to Thailand but a hard learned lesson comes with it

"Make sure your tourists are coming with money " In this case Its not the Chinese tourist that has money to burn like western and Russian tourists do

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I thought "going down" was the business? whistling.gif Damn, have I misunderstood?

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Nah, this cant be true.

TAT have told us that the numbers are up up and up..... so there, this must be wrong.....

Thainess

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Having had a big chunk of their savings vanish (see stock markets in China recently and slower economic growth), pray that those middle class Chinese still budget a tour holiday this year, at least you will hopefully get an extra 1,000 baht from them on the VOA. For the ones that come.

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My heart absolutely bleeds. Most bars were making 3 million baht per month, and most music venues were making 10 million baht per month before. We never thought anything would change. We thought we could charge 250 baht for ladies drinks, and ridiculous cover charges, and bar fines of 600-1200 baht. We thought the girls could charge 2000-4000 baht and nobody would question it. We thought we could offer an inferior product, for crazy prices, and nobody would question it.

Hopefully, some of these operators put some of that insane income away for a rainy day, such as now.

The reality is, that Bangla Road is one of the true blight zones, on Planet Earth. It is such an awful, desperate, overpriced place. Some of us are thrilled that those businesses are hurting. They never provided much of a service to begin with, and they charged stupid prices for it. So what if they are hurting? They themselves are part of the cause, for that local problem.

Western tourists are starting to see all of the issues that Thailand has. There have been countless reports on TV, and in the news, and online. About the bungling of the murder trials. About the scams. About the ineffective police. About the traffic fatalities. About the arrests for simple things such as liking a post on Facebook, and the false arrests based on trumped up LM charges. Tourists hate this kind of thing. The word gets around. The only tourism sector that is growing in Thailand is the Chinese sector. And the Chinese are accustomed to disgusting politicians, who do not have the public interest at heart. They don't seem to really care. But, they are spending alot less. And the Chinese are not punters, so the bar business, the (special) massage business, the soapies, the escorts, the go-go bars, and that entire industry is dying a slow death, nationwide.

The drop has been stunning. Restaurants, bars, massage shops, hotels, travel operators, tour guides, taxis, van services, airlines, etc. It is felt all the way on down the line. And who is ultimately to blame for the drop in Thai tourism nationwide? Prawit and Prayuth. That is who. They have been doing everything in their power to sabotage tourism. Everything. So, eat your sour grapes. You do not have our compassion on this one. I feel for the local people who are suffering. But, I do not feel for the Bangla millionaires, nor for the government. They are to blame.

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I see it everywhere I go. Western tourism is down and Asian tourism is up. However, the loss of Western tourists means loss of big revenue in the entertainment districts. In addition, the oil and gas people just do not come like before due to less of them and hassles with Visas. The response of the entertainment owners has been to increase prices which is not going to work. I went into on place last week where a small beer last year was 90 Baht and now 120 Baht. No real reason to increase this much. I will not be back and others have the same thought. You can only gouge so much and then the public votes with its feet. The glory days in the entertainment business are gone and I doubt ever coming back. The new brand of tourist from Asian doesn't want it and the old hands are going to other places where the prices are lower and the fun is real. It appears that the current bar owners in Thailand have no real idea on how to run a business.

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Thais need to learn to treat tourists as customers , we do not appreciate being ripped off robbed and cheated when we go on vacation. You h have the Chinese good luck with that, only chinese benefit .

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I guess the word has finally sunk in that Phuket is a DUMP! I've lived in Thailand for 13 years and I know I never want to

visit! Phuket is known throughout the world as a place to get Ripped Off!

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It seems they can't rely on the Chinese tourists like the good old fashioned western male pleasure seekers and you can only rip people off for so long. Thailand's "entertainment industry" has had an exceptionally good run but it all seems incredibly tired and jaded now, or maybe that's just me.

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Thing is;

Thai government is quite happy to get rid of Westerners as well as the 'dirty business' they patron.

They only tolerated it because they had no choice.

Now with Chinese; they have the perfect tourists: No prostitution; no alcohol, no drugs; no overstay; etc...

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When i had my bar on the darkside,there was a shop across the road that sold air con units.His rent was 30,000

a month.I know this because he came and did some work on mine.One day his landlord put up his rent to 60,000,just like that

no warning.The guy asked him if he would do deal at 45,000 until business improved.The land lord refused.Two weeks later

the aircon guy moved his shop 8 shops up the road at an agreed rent of 25,000.This was two years ago.The original

shop the guy had is still empty!Saving face but losing 30,000 a month.Good,Thai business sense??????I just cant understand the reqsoning

of it.

KKD

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down to about B540,000 per day,” he added.

Mr Somphoch noted that PEBA members account for 500 businesses.

An average of just 1,000 Baht/day income. Down from 3,000 Baht.

That is one helluva drop.

If that is true and continues, and I can see no reason why business should now pick up, then there will be a lot of businesses closing and a lot of vacant property. Maybe the inconceivable could happen?....

Rents might drop to an affordable level.....

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