webfact Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Thailand Asks Google to Bend Censorship RulesBy Sasiwan MokkhasenStaff ReporterPhoto : Robert Scoble / FlickrBANGKOK — Thai officials asked Google to make an exception and remove content without a court order, according to leaked details of a meeting this past Friday with top executives from the U.S.-based search giant.The second meeting between Google legal reps and a junta censorship committee was detailed in a document leaked by Thai net freedom advocates hours before Anonymous-aligned hacktivists shut down 20 Department of Corrections websites Thursday morning.On Wednesday night, a group of Thai activists opposed to government intrusion online published a document said to be a summary of the Jan. 22 meeting between Google Vice President General Counsel Matt Sucherman and the self-described “Media Reform Committee.”According to the document, which bears officials’ signatures and appears consistent to similar documents, the committee asked Google to immediately take down content the military government deems to be illegal without asking for a court order.“We would like Google to expedite the process of website removal once it is requested by qualified authorities to save from the possible damage of time, as it will not correct the situation if we wait for the court process,” it said.Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1453975227&typecate=06§ion= -- Khaosod English 2016-01-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 If the reason for blocking websites was to stop people trying to make anthrax at home or trying out some stuff in the anarchists cookbook, i could kind of understand. But, this is the junta we are talking about. They don't want anybody to know about stuff like bent judges acting like mad dogs in public, bent coppers using scapegoats, murdering politicians hiding from justice. Self serving bs. I hope google told them where to go, otherwise anonymous will shame them more and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashdashdot Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Well, they could just pay up to have the content buried on page 537463. That is, after all, Google's business model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Only relevant phrase is ' TOTAL CONTROL ' yet there's a certain word we are not allowed to use despite regular reminders just how applicable it is ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Generally but not always there is a certain pattern to having a General leading a nation , very few Generals can take criticism or negative feedback or being told by the people to naff off, hence censorship , restrictive freedom of speech , Asia is littered with despots over the centuries , Thailand is another case in Point , let the courts take Google to court under some censorship ruling, let them tie up the legal system, but better still Google should do the right thing under freedom of speech and remove its presence from Thailand , if it had the moral gumption that is.............................................. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Don't they know we are special?' Don't they know their rules do not apply to us but everyone else's must abide by? Don't they know we like to try and enforce our laws ( LM/deformation) on people in their own country's? Don't they know I have 99.3% approval by the people? Don't they know I have my super powers article 44 and I can do anything? Don't they know that we are not censoring anyone accept you can't criticize us or police or say anything we don't like and clicking the like button is a crime? Why don't they (the government) know that "bending the rules" for one group set's a precedent and therefor having rules will have no meaning? If you don't like the rules then don't play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych01 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 The Great Firewall of China spings to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnniey Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Google are only interested in money like most multinationals from the USA. They sold out to China, as did Cisco and Yahoo, already so if the Junta have the right amount of cash, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Band it like Thailand.. ( Beckham ).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 "requested by qualified authorities" Dont worry Google, you will have a long wait to hear from anybody of that description in the current government!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 What's the point in asking google, ask China they know how to implement censorship without any approval much better.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Do any rules apply to Thais or Thai government? They are FREE (to do as they please)..... regardless of how it impacts others or the country's standing in the world community (of which it might not be part of). Hope I don't get warned again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkup Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 This really highlights to mentality of these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Google will sadly bend. They always have. Any time people say "trust me" or "don't do evil" you can be assured they are hiding something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdecas Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Generally but not always there is a certain pattern to having a General leading a nation , very few Generals can take criticism or negative feedback or being told by the people to naff off, hence censorship , restrictive freedom of speech , Asia is littered with despots over the centuries , Thailand is another case in Point , let the courts take Google to court under some censorship ruling, let them tie up the legal system, but better still Google should do the right thing under freedom of speech and remove its presence from Thailand , if it had the moral gumption that is.............................................. . Good luck with that; Google is currently trying to wheedle its way back into the good offices of the CPC, that beacon of Chinese liberalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Generally but not always there is a certain pattern to having a General leading a nation , very few Generals can take criticism or negative feedback or being told by the people to naff off, hence censorship , restrictive freedom of speech , Asia is littered with despots over the centuries , Thailand is another case in Point , let the courts take Google to court under some censorship ruling, let them tie up the legal system, but better still Google should do the right thing under freedom of speech and remove its presence from Thailand , if it had the moral gumption that is.............................................. . Good luck with that; Google is currently trying to wheedle its way back into the good offices of the CPC, that beacon of Chinese liberalism. Chinese liberalism,... what an oximoron is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Do any rules apply to Thais or Thai government? They are FREE (to do as they please)..... regardless of how it impacts others or the country's standing in the world community (of which it might not be part of). Hope I don't get warned again. Don't worry as you are all set now, we are all nobody's unless having been warned or better still suspended by the forum. ?? I wonder if there was any ' or else ' edge to the govt's request ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Dear Google A: Extend arm with hand in clenched fist. B: Raise middle digit. C: Move vigorously in an up and down motion. D: Repeat with other arm. Ha, who am I kidding, you'll do anything for profits won't you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 ...'without a court order'....doesn't that mean 'illegally'.....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutha289 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I think Bugs Bunny said it best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 If you live in Thailand, the best comment is no comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk75 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Do any rules apply to Thais or Thai government? They are FREE (to do as they please)..... regardless of how it impacts others or the country's standing in the world community (of which it might not be part of). Hope I don't get warned again. You have been WARNED. stop and desist or else.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 ...'without a court order'....doesn't that mean 'illegally'.....??? Yes and No ! Yes in a country with a rule of law and proper judicial system. No in LoS with a military govt and Art 44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonsterk Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 If the reason for blocking websites was to stop people trying to make anthrax at home or trying out some stuff in the anarchists cookbook, i could kind of understand. But, this is the junta we are talking about. They don't want anybody to know about stuff like bent judges acting like mad dogs in public, bent coppers using scapegoats, murdering politicians hiding from justice. Self serving bs. I hope google told them where to go, otherwise anonymous will shame them more and more. There's only one thing they want to prohibit Thais from knowing about. It's the REALLY BIG SECRET. If you Google it use a IP mask and non tracking search engine because I'm sure quite soon, even visiting sites will become a crime. They just cannot get that single Gateway in fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Why bother with this <deleted>, just cut off the internet already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Only relevant phrase is ' TOTAL CONTROL ' yet there's a certain word we are not allowed to use despite regular reminders just how applicable it is ! A better word would be TRANSPARENCY. These guys are what they are and we know them for it. The real TOTAL CONTROL of what we see lies elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technologybytes Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 All the junta needs to do is to implement a 24 hour court that can issue court orders on demand, its not difficult. That way they don't need to bend any rules... of course it would slow things down if the court required any evidence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Do any rules apply to Thais or Thai government? They are FREE (to do as they please)..... regardless of how it impacts others or the country's standing in the world community (of which it might not be part of). Hope I don't get warned again. You are not the only member of that club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 GOVERNMENT ???????? "requested by qualified authorities" Dont worry Google, you will have a long wait to hear from anybody of that description in the current government!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 "The junta" is not "Thailand". How about poll on this issue? 99.3% in favor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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