webfact Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Human Rights Commissioner Pledges to Reverse StandingBy Teeranai CharuvastraStaff ReporterPro-democracy activists crash an award ceremony Dec. 12, 2014, to criticize the National Human Rights Commission’s unwillingness to defend rights in the junta-ruled Thailand.BANGKOK — The National Human Rights Commission of Thailand, or NHRC, has been downgraded from by its international governing organization, a decision one commissioner hopes will be overturned later this year.Citing a failure to maintain independence and address human rights violations in a timely manner, the commission’s international coordinating committee announced Thailand was downgraded from A-level status to “B” on Thursday, a year after it first issued a warning to the Thai rights agency.Commissioner Angkhana Neelapaijit said she accepted the demotion but vowed to “step up” the agency’s efforts and convince the international committee to restore her agency to the top rank.“It’s over,” Angkhana said when asked whether she plans to appeal the decision. “But there will be the next meeting in October or November. We will perform our duty and prove that this current set of commissioners work in accordance with the Paris Principles and in defense of human rights.”Its lower status means it can not vote or take leadership roles on the international committee, where it can only participate as an observer.Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1453983941&typecate=06§ion= -- Khaosod English 2016-01-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Quite obviously Thailand has been deemed a basket case whilst the Prayut - O junta are in power as far as human rights are concerned ,mind , this isn't the only issue with Prayut, the country is on the verge of completely becoming a basket case and it wont take very much pushing for that to happen, roll on 2017.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 An obvious response from the commissioner but wasted words as she can do nothing since she's not running the country and those who are won't pay the slightest attention to her or anyone else for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 "We will perform our duty and prove that this current set of commissioners work in accordance with the Paris Principles and in defense of human rights.” Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lujanit Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 So who is right? The EU or NHRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 So who is right? The EU or NHRC. Two letters good Four letters bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Is freedom of speech a human right ? Last article the Junta is asking Google to remove content without a court order. How can you have human rights if you have a government that is always trying to take your rights away. How does article 44, the new martial law, play into achieving human rights ? The logic is baffling . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Is freedom of speech a human right ? Last article the Junta is asking Google to remove content without a court order. How can you have human rights if you have a government that is always trying to take your rights away. How does article 44, the new martial law, play into achieving human rights ? The logic is baffling . AAAAND a possible implementation of an online GATEWAY, that must not be named... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1inbangkok Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Is google seriously considering the request of the Gov? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berybert Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I wish I could get on the panel that gives out these ratings. No point in down grading unless you say why. Tell the truth, let the people of Thailand know just how scummy those in charge are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Dog Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Hauling away students, arresting people for les majeste on royal dogs, those two poor Burmese boys in Koh Tao, slave labor on the fishing boats, sensitivity to Royhinga, prisoners dying in prison from "food poisoning", and a host of other things regarding freedom of speech will likely further degrade the scores. No light at the end of this tunnel yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Good ! well deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Long overdue step to sideline the Thai NHRC - notoriously skewed feudalistic , yellow, democracy averse apparatchiks.They have shamed the human rights cause in Thailand which they were supposed to champion.Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Never knew the Thai NHRC ever existed. No lost in the downgrade. The pro democracy students and activists are doing a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLSEEINGEYE Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Quite obviously Thailand has been deemed a basket case whilst the Prayut - O junta are in power as far as human rights are concerned ,mind , this isn't the only issue with Prayut, the country is on the verge of completely becoming a basket case and it wont take very much pushing for that to happen, roll on 2017.......................... Oh so when 3000 people were killed during the Taksin regime plus all the other atrocities under his regime, Thailand had a good human rights record then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Quite obviously Thailand has been deemed a basket case whilst the Prayut - O junta are in power as far as human rights are concerned ,mind , this isn't the only issue with Prayut, the country is on the verge of completely becoming a basket case and it wont take very much pushing for that to happen, roll on 2017.......................... Oh so when 3000 people were killed during the Taksin regime plus all the other atrocities under his regime, Thailand had a good human rights record then? If it pleases you, no government in past history of Thailand has any good human right records. So what's your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 "Human Rights Commissioner Pledges to Reverse Standing" just as soon as she can figure out another way to supplement her income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 "[Thai NHRC] can only participate as an observer. That accurately describes that organization since it was created by the 1999 National Human Rights Commission Act. It has no investigative and/or prosecurial powers. In fact the CDC proposes to further denegrate what little authority it has by merging it with the junta-controlled Office of the Ombudsman of Thailand into one body to be called the Office of the Ombudsman and Human Rights Protection. NHRC would no longer even be an Independent Organization as provided in the now-abolished 2007 Constitution. The Ombudsman would decide the budget and priorities of NHRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Long overdue step to sideline the Thai NHRC - notoriously skewed feudalistic , yellow, democracy averse apparatchiks.They have shamed the human rights cause in Thailand which they were supposed to champion.Good riddance. If I remember correctly the commissioner at the time of Mr. T's war on drugs resulting in 2,000+ deaths supported what was happening as it was ridding the country of drug dealers ! No thoughts about ex-judicial killings etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Nothing and no one in Thailand is truly independent or ever hope to be as the system doesn't work that way and isn't set up for it. Can anyone see the current commissioner buttonholing the PM and saying she wants to discuss human rights ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Puket seems to fit the description of uncooperative quite well. Start with that den of shame that reflects on all Thailand. Put everyone involved with just what was exposed yesterday, with the release of 30+ confined to dormatory(jail), forced to work on fishing boats (unpaid)and not a mention of Thai involvment.Its going take the army and their firepower to clean up the slave trade that is going on daily. Just make sure the dead bodies left are the dealers and not the prisoners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Puket seems to fit the description of uncooperative quite well. Start with that den of shame that reflects on all Thailand. Put everyone involved with just what was exposed yesterday, with the release of 30+ confined to dormatory(jail), forced to work on fishing boats (unpaid)and not a mention of Thai involvment.Its going take the army and their firepower to clean up the slave trade that is going on daily. Just make sure the dead bodies left are the dealers and not the prisoners Spot on. Nest of corrupt vipers the lot of them. Apart from the odd one or two who are merely incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 If i had a 100 Baht for every 'pledge' and 'promise' made by Thai Politicans and Officials i would be a billionaire by now ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 "[Thai NHRC] can only participate as an observer. That accurately describes that organization since it was created by the 1999 National Human Rights Commission Act. It has no investigative and/or prosecurial powers. In fact the CDC proposes to further denegrate what little authority it has by merging it with the junta-controlled Office of the Ombudsman of Thailand into one body to be called the Office of the Ombudsman and Human Rights Protection. NHRC would no longer even be an Independent Organization as provided in the now-abolished 2007 Constitution. The Ombudsman would decide the budget and priorities of NHRC. Actually in many countries the status of the NHRW organisation is fairly similar. The Netherlands for instance has the NIHR since 2012 which has Mandate · Powers: the The Netherlands Institute for Human Rights is a predominantly quasi-judicial body; · Litigation powers: -- Bringing proceedings in its own name; -- Formally deciding on complaints (decision or recommendation) - not legally binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Enjoy your observer status while you still can. The next one will be sanctions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I think Thailand's standing has been reversed already, negatively speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 "[Thai NHRC] can only participate as an observer. That accurately describes that organization since it was created by the 1999 National Human Rights Commission Act. It has no investigative and/or prosecurial powers. In fact the CDC proposes to further denegrate what little authority it has by merging it with the junta-controlled Office of the Ombudsman of Thailand into one body to be called the Office of the Ombudsman and Human Rights Protection. NHRC would no longer even be an Independent Organization as provided in the now-abolished 2007 Constitution. The Ombudsman would decide the budget and priorities of NHRC. Actually in many countries the status of the NHRW organisation is fairly similar. The Netherlands for instance has the NIHR since 2012 which has Mandate · Powers: the The Netherlands Institute for Human Rights is a predominantly quasi-judicial body; · Litigation powers: -- Bringing proceedings in its own name; -- Formally deciding on complaints (decision or recommendation) - not legally binding. The "observer status" relates to the NHRC role in meetings of the oversight (UN) body. It is not a description of their role within Thailand. These commissions are intended to be watchdogs, investigating and reporting on human rights issues that may otherwise be ignored by the government or the private sector. To do that effectively, they have to be independent, and they have to be timely. Evidently, the NHRC did not meet that standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Until they make an example of the owners, who is bankrolling the operation, sieze assits, and jail those at the top of the food chain, no one has any hope of improvement. Then to futher convience the public, the announcements of raids, arrest warrents, siezures, in advance and release on bail via a swinging door must stop. Anyone of authority who comments these type actions should be charged with the crimes committed and serve the penality as law perscribes, until the orginal outlaw is there to replace him/her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLSEEINGEYE Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Quite obviously Thailand has been deemed a basket case whilst the Prayut - O junta are in power as far as human rights are concerned ,mind , this isn't the only issue with Prayut, the country is on the verge of completely becoming a basket case and it wont take very much pushing for that to happen, roll on 2017.......................... Oh so when 3000 people were killed during the Taksin regime plus all the other atrocities under his regime, Thailand had a good human rights record then? If it pleases you, no government in past history of Thailand has any good human right records. So what's your point. THAT is my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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