matta330 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Unlike my home country, the US, Thailand has a national identification card. Just out of curiosity, why do many government offices also ask for the Thai citizens' Tabian Baan? It seems like it is an unnecessary addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 To prove residency in a particular region/province as many rules/regs are provincially administered in Thailand and may not be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 It is similar to the UK but more stringent where proof is address is required for everything in addition to i.d. The tabien bahn shows you are registered at an address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allane Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 And, it is a little harder to forge than an ID card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) Everything 'official' I have ever done in the UK required at least 1 proof of ID plus 1 proof of address. In Thailand proof of ID = ID card, proof of address = Tabian Baan It's not rocket science is it? How do you open a bank account in the US? Edited February 9, 2016 by MaeJoMTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 The thing is the Thai ID card has the holder's address printed on it. And you can't get the address put on the ID card without being in the relevant house book. So having to provide a copy of your house book at the same time as your ID card is illogical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunG Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Everything 'official' I have ever done in the UK required at least 1 proof of ID plus 1 proof of address. In Thailand proof of ID = ID card, proof of address = Tabian Baan It's not rocket science is it? How do you open a bank account in the US? Just need a drivers license or state ID in the US. The address is on there. Registering a child for public (government) school some places requires that you also produce a utility bill with an address in the district, but for almost everything else just the DL is enough. There is no equivalent to the house book. I lived in Norway a couple years and there was a separate house registration also, which I assume is equivalent to the UK and Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Tabian baan also has id number in it. So tabian baan/ id card should have the same number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 It's a heck of a lot easier to have a Tabian Baan then to go to Immigration to get a 'residency certificate' (at least here in CM). Checked with the Thai DoL regarding my upcoming Driver License renewal. Went to check specifically if they would accept my Tabian Baan or if I needed a 'residency certificate'. They indicated the Tabian Baan is the document they want. Easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan5 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Everything 'official' I have ever done in the UK required at least 1 proof of ID plus 1 proof of address. In Thailand proof of ID = ID card, proof of address = Tabian Baan It's not rocket science is it? How do you open a bank account in the US? A utility bill wil do in the US, possibly just appearing at the bank in person. I can't remember for sure it's been a long time since I lived there. But I recently opened a bank account in the US on line, just sending them a scan of a utility bill sent to my address in Thailand. Basically they just want to know your a real person. Addresses aren't a big deal at all in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Card Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) It's a heck of a lot easier to have a Tabian Baan then to go to Immigration to get a 'residency certificate' (at least here in CM). Checked with the Thai DoL regarding my upcoming Driver License renewal. Went to check specifically if they would accept my Tabian Baan or if I needed a 'residency certificate'. They indicated the Tabian Baan is the document they want. Easy! I always understood that the Tabian Baan only proves residency for Thais - farang names are never put in it unless they become citizens or maybe permanent residents. Have you checked that your name is in yours? Remember that proof of ownership of a residence is not the same as being resident there. Edited February 10, 2016 by Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan5 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Everything 'official' I have ever done in the UK required at least 1 proof of ID plus 1 proof of address. In Thailand proof of ID = ID card, proof of address = Tabian Baan It's not rocket science is it? How do you open a bank account in the US? A utility bill wil do in the US, possibly just appearing at the bank in person. I can't remember for sure it's been a long time since I lived there. But I recently opened a bank account in the US on line, just sending them a scan of a utility bill sent to my address in Thailand. Basically they just want to know your a real person. Addresses aren't a big deal at all in the US. But come to think of it I've not had to provide a proof of address for any of my Thai bank accounts, so maybe banks aren't a good example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Thai ID card does not necessary contain the latest address from the thabian ban. My wife simply did not care to get a new one after re-registering from the neighboring house (old parents house) to where we actually live. So on ID card still 8 M 1, thabian ban 340 M 1. In the new thabian she is the "house master". On the old house her sister is the "house master". As you can see they put her on the other thabian ban and not forcing her to get a new ID card. The banks do not care for the thabian ban, ID card is enough. Lots of mail for the old address as she also did not care to communicate the new address to banks, insurances etc. In the end: every Thai person has a unique citizen ID for lifetime and is in an electronic database (citizen register). This citizen ID is on the ID card and in the thabian. So it would always be possible to look up where one is registered. So I can not provide the ultimate answer why someone needs the thabian in addition. Maybe proof of master status in the house book? And where they actually reside is yet another question. The majority of workers (from Isan or elsewhere) working all year long in Bangkok or other major spots does not register an address there. Edited February 10, 2016 by KhunBENQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnx355 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 The news Thai ID card with chips issued more than 10years ago was suppose to eliminate all those photocopies of ID cards and Tambian Ban.... But government offices, banks and insurance still need the photocopies as the law requiring then has not been changed,,,Typical... THere was a posting about that in the past.....the old administrative law has not been changed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 It's a heck of a lot easier to have a Tabian Baan then to go to Immigration to get a 'residency certificate' (at least here in CM). Checked with the Thai DoL regarding my upcoming Driver License renewal. Went to check specifically if they would accept my Tabian Baan or if I needed a 'residency certificate'. They indicated the Tabian Baan is the document they want. Easy! I always understood that the Tabian Baan only proves residency for Thais - farang names are never put in it unless they become citizens or maybe permanent residents. Have you checked that your name is in yours? Remember that proof of ownership of a residence is not the same as being resident there. You are correct. In addition to what you said, foreigners can get a yellow tabien baan where your name is entered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naboo Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 And where they actually reside is yet another question. The majority of workers (from Isan or elsewhere) working all year long in Bangkok or other major spots does not register an address there. Well, if they were easily able to register to vote in Bangkok then all of Bangkok would be red as well. Best keep them in the red provinces eh?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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