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Hi all. I am new to the forum and could use your expertise.

What is the import duty on new car parts imported from the UK?

i would be importing:

Brake parts (drums, pads, cylinders, pipes)

Suspension parts. Leaf springs, shocks.

a few steering bits.

I need a mechanic in Phuket that could help restore the vehicle.

Do any of you know a good workshop? I have heard there is a LR specialist but i can not find him.

Thank you all.

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For any older style Land Rover enthusiast a trip to the Cameron Highlands in Malaysia would be a worthwhile holiday. There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of them there, And of course countless shops and parts dealers to keep them running. Mostly pick-ups, or utes. It is Malaysia’s principle tea and vegetable farming area, a rugged mountainous terrain and mostly without proper roads. So the farmers there love them as they are the only vehicles that can consistently hold up and handle the steep and difficult farm tracks. There is even a special exemption that they do not need to be registered if they stay within the Cameron Highlands area.

A plus for visiting Malaysia is that almost everyone speaks English as it was a British colony.

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PS: Also Malaysia prices for automotive accessories seem to be cheaper than in Thailand. Probably especially so for Land Rover stuff in the Cameron Highlands area as there are so many of them

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PS: Also Malaysia prices for automotive accessories seem to be cheaper than in Thailand. Probably especially so for Land Rover stuff in the Cameron Highlands area as there are so many of them

I used to live in Malaysia and have been to CH a few times. I never noticed that there was so many LR there.

I did a quick google search and found an article about LR in CH.

One of the workshops owners were quoting saying:

"If it doesn't fit, we just use a bigger hammer," Rong says. :)

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I lived 8 years in Penang, Langkawi and Lamut. Been to the Highlands a few times and any time hearing about the highlands my immediate mental image is of Land Rovers. Maybe at the time you were there you didn’t notice Land Rovers due to not yet being interested in them. Just Google: Cameron Highlands Land Rover. You will be amazed - many pages of Google, all exclaiming wonderment about how obvious their presence.

Or just click this link: http://motoring-malaysia.blogspot.com/2013/10/our-cameron-highlands-is-globally.html Interesting article. Lots of pictures showing LRs up and down every street, and begins with the statement: “Over Seven thousand Land Rovers servicing a community of only thirty thousand residents. That's a ratio of 4.2 persons to 1 Land Rover. If you aren't aware of which community I am referring to, it is the one called Cameron Highlands.”

Also, parts would be cheaper there as in addition to being plentiful, in that area they are a farm vehicle, not a rich man’s hobby vehicle. Plus the whole area is also a virtual Land Rover graveyard.

About mechanics who use bigger hammers - am sure you can find that sort of a shop anywhere if that is what is what you are looking for

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If I was the OP I would get it running good enough, drive across the border to the Cameron Highlands with a pocket full of cash, have a resident expert fix what needs doing while I have a vacation, and drive it right back across the border. Best of both worlds.

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I lived 8 years in Penang, Langkawi and Lamut. Been to the Highlands a few times and any time hearing about the highlands my immediate mental image is of Land Rovers. Maybe at the time you were there you didn’t notice Land Rovers due to not yet being interested in them. Just Google: Cameron Highlands Land Rover. You will be amazed - many pages of Google, all exclaiming wonderment about how obvious their presence.

Or just click this link: http://motoring-malaysia.blogspot.com/2013/10/our-cameron-highlands-is-globally.html Interesting article. Lots of pictures showing LRs up and down every street, and begins with the statement: “Over Seven thousand Land Rovers servicing a community of only thirty thousand residents. That's a ratio of 4.2 persons to 1 Land Rover. If you aren't aware of which community I am referring to, it is the one called Cameron Highlands.”

Also, parts would be cheaper there as in addition to being plentiful, in that area they are a farm vehicle, not a rich man’s hobby vehicle. Plus the whole area is also a virtual Land Rover graveyard.

About mechanics who use bigger hammers - am sure you can find that sort of a shop anywhere if that is what is what you are looking for

Thank you for the link. CH look very different from when i last were there. :) Some very cool LR's there. I think you are right, I just didn't pay attention to them. I am not planning this to be a rich man's hobby vehicle. It will be a work horse with some soul.

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If I was the OP I would get it running good enough, drive across the border to the Cameron Highlands with a pocket full of cash, have a resident expert fix what needs doing while I have a vacation, and drive it right back across the border. Best of both worlds.

That sounds like a brilliant plan. I think I will do that. Just need help to get it up to that standard.

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If you need a lot of stuff to get yours running, it might even justify a trip down to Cameron Highlands to pick up a load of high class scrap to get your project ambulatory. Then drive it down, like canthai55 suggests to complete the job. But I doubt internet research would be any benefit as that is a small area where everyone knows everyone so those types of businesses do not use or need any sort of advertising or websites to attract the people who need their services.

When we moved from Penang to Thailand we did 6 trips with our Malay Ford Everest packed right to the roof and one with our Thai Nissan pick-up piled high and Thai Customs at Sadao border did not bother us. But am sure it doesn’t hurt to be discreet and cover things up. Especially auto parts as a lot of luxury cars are stolen in Malaysia, striped down and the parts sent to Thailand to be sold. Customs on both side of the border watch for that.

Am attaching info I saved about first trip formalities for driving a Thai registered car or pick-up into Malaysia as it will be helpful if you have not already driven into Malaysia with your Thai registered vehicle. It was about 5 years ago but processes do not seem to change much. All the coordinates were taken off our GPS, except the sign & sticker shop which I neglected to enter into it so took that one off Google Maps but am sure it is very close if not rite on. But maybe Land Transport will know about one that is closer to their office.

In Cameron Highlands you will see that a lot of the LRs have their bodies laced with a lot of angle iron or pipe armor. That is because some of the ungraveled mountainous tracks and farm roads are so terrible, and somtimes they slide sideways into the cliff-like wall of deep cuts into hill sides. Also the wheel ruts in some of those tracks are so deep that I could not understand how even a LR could negotiate them without bottoming out. If you spend much time there you will probably have a chance to ride with somone up into the back country and it will be a memorable experience and illustrate the extremes of what a LR can do.

As I was saying, I lived in Malaysia 8 years. And belonged to the Penang 4x4 club 4 years - until moving to Thailand. There was a Land Rover dealer in Penang that had several on hand, new and used, and I considered buying one but didn’t like the thin aluminum bodies on the ones that were current then. Plus the high prices, but that was in Penang.Driving Malaysia, 1st entry for car.pdf

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If you need a lot of stuff to get yours running, it might even justify a trip down to Cameron Highlands to pick up a load of high class scrap to get your project ambulatory. Then drive it down, like canthai55 suggests to complete the job. But I doubt internet research would be any benefit as that is a small area where everyone knows everyone so those types of businesses do not use or need any sort of advertising or websites to attract the people who need their services.

When we moved from Penang to Thailand we did 6 trips with our Malay Ford Everest packed right to the roof and one with our Thai Nissan pick-up piled high and Thai Customs at Sadao border did not bother us. But am sure it doesn’t hurt to be discreet and cover things up. Especially auto parts as a lot of luxury cars are stolen in Malaysia, striped down and the parts sent to Thailand to be sold. Customs on both side of the border watch for that.

Am attaching info I saved about first trip formalities for driving a Thai registered car or pick-up into Malaysia as it will be helpful if you have not already driven into Malaysia with your Thai registered vehicle. It was about 5 years ago but processes do not seem to change much. All the coordinates were taken off our GPS, except the sign & sticker shop which I neglected to enter into it so took that one off Google Maps but am sure it is very close if not rite on. But maybe Land Transport will know about one that is closer to their office.

In Cameron Highlands you will see that a lot of the LRs have their bodies laced with a lot of angle iron or pipe armor. That is because some of the ungraveled mountainous tracks and farm roads are so terrible, and somtimes they slide sideways into the cliff-like wall of deep cuts into hill sides. Also the wheel ruts in some of those tracks are so deep that I could not understand how even a LR could negotiate them without bottoming out. If you spend much time there you will probably have a chance to ride with somone up into the back country and it will be a memorable experience and illustrate the extremes of what a LR can do.

As I was saying, I lived in Malaysia 8 years. And belonged to the Penang 4x4 club 4 years - until moving to Thailand. There was a Land Rover dealer in Penang that had several on hand, new and used, and I considered buying one but didn’t like the thin aluminum bodies on the ones that were current then. Plus the high prices, but that was in Penang.attachicon.gifDriving Malaysia, 1st entry for car.pdf

Hi Chaz2

This is fantastic information. Thank you very much.

I have a lead on somebody in Phuket that might be able to help with getting the car up to a standard that it can drive to CH so a trip south will almost certainly be the way to go.

Thank you again. Brilliant stuff.

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Were these British built Land Rovers ? Or knocked down kits put together in Malaysia.....or ?????

I actually do not know. They were a funny mix.

They had Toyota engines and gearboxes, probably retrofitted, but they also had Defender one piece wind screens.

Anyways, it did not work out so I am still looking.

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Tkiris if I was in Phuket I would help you get it to driveable condition. I own a S2, a 2A and and a 3.

I am very jealous.

I hope to find a good, rust free project. I can do most mechanical repairs myself, but rust is beyond my capabilities.

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I may be do not know about correct value of old classic Land Rovers here, but I like those trucks and I found some in very good original condition in Thaland selling for not more than 150.000 THB.... Makes sense to import/export them?

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Tkiris if I was in Phuket I would help you get it to driveable condition. I own a S2, a 2A and and a 3.

Where did you buy your cars from if you don't mind me asking? Ones I've seen online most are very rusty, the ones in decent condition costs quite a bit too.

They are in the UK.

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It may be worth your while attempting to find an ex REME vehicle mechanic, for Him this job would be a doddle. I I was in Phuket and not in China, I would be knocking on your front door, toolbox in hand.

On the subject of rust, please see below, and it's a very good piece of info.

Myth: Land Rovers are made from aluminium, so they don't rust.

Truth: Most of the outer body panels on a Land Rover are indeed aluminium. But the vehicle is built on an old-fashioned ladder frame chassis. This is what gives a Land Rover its strength: it is made from mild steel sections welded together, it is given a bare minimum of corrosion protection at the factory, and it rusts very readily indeed. Any vehicle more than ten years old may be suffering from chassis corrosion: the condition of the visible body panels provides no guide to the state of the chassis, and chassis replacement is a very expensive job. (However, it is worth mentioning that most Japanese 4x4s are far more rot-prone than Land Rovers.)

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are parts for the early ones easy to find ?

mid 1950s short wheelbase

There is one I know of that has the motor taken apart in the back seat ,

so just wondering if bearings and pistons are available if it needs a rebore ,

It might be a fun thing to play with ......

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  • 10 months later...

An old topic I know but tomorrow I get my Thai plates for my 1982 LR Defender. I'm like a kid waiting for Christmas.

 

The above info is great as I plan this year to strip down and rebuild.

 

Cheers chaps.

 

 

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2 hours ago, raffo77 said:

a second hand defender in Thiland?

 

how much did it cost you if I may ask?

Brought it over from the UK.

 

An arm, a leg and the missus still keeps reminding me.

 

Seriously, about 200K shipping and customs duty and a few grey hairs with the paperwork this end.

Just got my plates though :smile:

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18 hours ago, grollies said:

Brought it over from the UK.

 

An arm, a leg and the missus still keeps reminding me.

 

Seriously, about 200K shipping and customs duty and a few grey hairs with the paperwork this end.

 

Just got my plates though :smile:

must be the start of a new thread there , your story on how you managed to get it here from the Uk and the paperwork required

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