webfact Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Police Deny Torturing Bangkok Bombing SuspectBy Sasiwan MokkhasenStaff ReporterAdem Karadag,31, aka Bilal Mohammed, is led Tuesday from the military court in Bangkok.BANGKOK — The head investigator of Bangkok’s deadly August shrine bombing said today their chief suspect in the attack was never tortured as alleged by his lawyer, who may be charged for defaming the police.A day after defense lawyer Schoochart Kanpai publicly accused police of torturing his client, 31-year-old Adem Karadag, police officials today insisted neither Karadag, who is also known as Bilal Mohammed, nor co-defendant Yusufu Mieraili were ever physically or psychologically abused.Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1455713644&typecate=06§ion= -- Khaosod English 2016-02-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 The client informs his lawyer that he was tortured and the lawyer raises his concerns. Now he faces prosecution for simply representing his client as best as possible. Sounds like corruption and an attempt to tie the hands of the defence and stack all the cards for the prosecution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Doesn't look like prison food is very nourishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyBowskill Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I wouldn't swap a bucket of p1ss for his future, will die long before he gets anywhere near completing any sentence. If he is alive 5 years later I will be truly amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Justified pressure maybe a better way to discribe abuse ( IF ) it was perpetrated in this case, wanting to stop any acomplices who may have also planned more bombings, the fear and pressure driving those interrogators would have been immense trying to ascertain the truth and ( STOP ) more innocent carnage, He still has his eyes and fingers and is walking , still breathing free air and eating tax payers money, I am not surprised at the claim from his lawyer , what else could he have said ," something like my client is innocent " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Nobody will ever believe that authorities would decide who they want held responible and then frame/fabricate/manipulate/convienently lose evidence to suit and avoid the effort of a thorough investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 The torture never stops..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Again the police demand to be taken at their word & for added oomph decide to wheel out the defamation card.. A sick outfit at best. This guy in chains is done, Koh Tao case all over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honoluludave Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Of course we did not torture this guy. Now shut up about it before we sue you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Is there not a law where the interrogation has to be filmed or audiotaped? What about the Spanish guy accused of mirder? Did he simply confess after the first time of asking? Or do Spain hold more weight than Burma and a China who doesn't give a hoot about their Muslim minority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 "Police Deny Torturing Bangkok Bombing Suspect" "What is your job at the police department?" "I deny torturing suspects." "i see. what else do you do?" "that's all. it's a full time job denying torture. two shifts, 12 hours a day, 24/7." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I in all honesty, I got no sympathy for this terrorist and care nothing about his present or future. Terrorists deserve no sympathy ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogo51 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 What an horrendous allegation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maoro2013 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 So if the guy is found innocent, then he would be able to sue the police for defamation?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Of course we did not torture this guy. Now shut up about it before we sue you!Not sue. Defamation in Thailand falls under criminal law, not civil. The lawyer- or anyone really - could go to jail for slandering police in thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostmanthai Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 While I don't justify the alleged abuse I can think and say this. If you get a reputation of seriously torturing the people who do these type of heinous acts it will make your country less of a target. Look at the bleeding hearts in the EU. France gets shot to hell and then they take on more refugees. Systematic coordinated rapes in Germany and yet Merkel is still bringing in more people. Why invite this type of actions into your home and accept it. If someone came into my home and messed with my daughter I would not simply accept it. Thoughts to ponder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 "Police Deny Torturing Bangkok Bombing Suspect" "What is your job at the police department?" "I deny torturing suspects." "i see. what else do you do?" "that's all. it's a full time job denying torture. two shifts, 12 hours a day, 24/7." Letter from BIB mother. My son no torture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sz1a Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Defamation is too broadly interpreted in Thailand. <--- this statement qualifies as defamation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Justified pressure maybe a better way to discribe abuse ( IF ) it was perpetrated in this case, wanting to stop any acomplices who may have also planned more bombings, the fear and pressure driving those interrogators would have been immense trying to ascertain the truth and ( STOP ) more innocent carnage, He still has his eyes and fingers and is walking , still breathing free air and eating tax payers money, I am not surprised at the claim from his lawyer , what else could he have said ," something like my client is innocent " Justified pressure? I believe that the Spanish Inquisition, gestapo, NKVD, KGB and other visious organisations have used that defence over the years. The end justifies the means if the end gets us the answer we want. Torture always gets the answer it is seeking it's true. To claim it finds the truth though is laughably naive and utter BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I in all honesty, I got no sympathy for this terrorist and care nothing about his present or future. Terrorists deserve no sympathy ever!No they don't I agree. Those who are innocent yet are tortured into saying they are terrorists however do so. Unless you are one of those who believe all Muslims are guilty because they follow Islam. Hah, can't be right, no one's that blindly prejudiced are they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 They where probably forced to endlessly watch speeches by Prayut and listen to his songs hour after hour.....such inhumane treatment.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 are there statistics somewhere about how effective torture actually is to obtain information? I'm not talking about pressuring suspects into confessing a crime, I am talking about torture with the goal of extracting information. US intelligence services obviously believe waterboarding yields results, but do statistics exist ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptile91602 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I saw Zappa twice in LA in the 70's. Fantastic concerts. Were we talking about torture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextStationBangkok Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 No one in the world will believe Thai Police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Is there not a law where the interrogation has to be filmed or audiotaped? What about the Spanish guy accused of mirder? Did he simply confess after the first time of asking? Or do Spain hold more weight than Burma and a China who doesn't give a hoot about their Muslim minority? There are a lot of things that do not enter interrogation rooms, in most countries. The law is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I doubt these guys were the only 2 involved, and probably not the masterminds. It suits the powers that be to quickly wrap this up and put it behind them so the tourists keep on coming, and any incompetence on their part isn't scrutinised under the public eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 "Adem Karadag, 31, aka Bilal Mohammed, told the military court Tuesday he was not even in Thailand at the time of the Aug. 17 explosion at the Erawan Shrine, which killed mostly foreign tourists. "Through his lawyer Schoochart Kanpai, Karadag admitted to entering Thailand illegally with a fake passport" "Abdullahman took him from a hotel in Vietnam to Laos and then entered Thailand on Aug. 21" The only thing, the police needs to do, is to check, when Adem Karadag truly left Laos and entered Thailand, with his fake passport. Had that been done, checked with Laotian an Thai immigration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casindonet Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Deny? Same as they deny corruptions;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 .....the lawyer issued his client's statement... ...so he will be threatened........or charged.....??? ....not cool..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hottrader77 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 The client informs his lawyer that he was tortured and the lawyer raises his concerns. Now he faces prosecution for simply representing his client as best as possible. Sounds like corruption and an attempt to tie the hands of the defence and stack all the cards for the prosecution. who cares he is guilty of killing many good people ( as it is him in the CCTV footage ) wish they had tortured him longer another example of muslim agression and wrong interpretation of the koran , as i say the koran needs to be written again and make it clear that killing people is wrong and any muslim that does should be stripped of being a muslim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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