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White Temple in Chiang Rai to charge foreign visitors

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100 baht now , if they realize they can earn money on this foreigners have to pay 500 baht tomorrow.

I don't go to Doi Inthanon any longer either due to the charge. But once compared to the grandeur of, say, Mount Rainier, there is nothing much to see at Doi Inthanon anyway. Frost? How about 30 feet of snow? Trees? How about old growth timber. And at the entrance of Mount Rainier National Park, everyone foreigner and citizen, are charged the same. So yeah, I vote with my feet.

No everyone is NOT charged the same...there are senior and kids discounts along with military and disabled discounts:

The Senior Pass is a major benefit for those getting older. People aged 62 and up can get a lifetime pass that functions like the Interagency pass, giving access to national parks, national forests and more. The Access Passis a free lifetime pass for those with a permanent disability. There also are free U.S. military passes and free volunteer passes.

You're splitting hair at best. Their is no discrimination based on race, ethnicity, or home of origin as there is in Thailand.

Thailand does not discriminate on the basis of any of those things, it discriminates solely on the basis of nationality, not religion, not skin colour, not race, not heritage, just nationality.

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just the outside of this temple is interresting, so why enter into ?

Agreed, I won't be going. What their charging isn't the issue. It's charging foreigners for every little thing they can think of that is the issue. I'd rather they just ban foreigners from going. There are enough crappy stores and services here that get my money. Not paying for any tourist attractions like this. There are many more interesting temples near this region where you can go and enjoy for free. One is close to the tea plantation. I forget the name but you can go pray in the temple, feed the cliff monkey's, paddle boat in the small pond and simply enjoy yourself along with everyone else. You spend your money on the vendors that are there that provide food, trinkets, and other hand-made items.

I am not sure you can realistically compare these two places.

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Did somone say "Feed the cliff monkeys." Dam it. I missed that. I don't know why, but that phrase is makeing me laugh.

When I was at the white temple, it was terribly crowded. I'm all for a fee making it less crowded and let those who will pay pay and those who don't go elsewhere. I enjoyed walking across the bridge and what it symbolizes. I was intrigued by the Star Wars and minion art on the inside. It forced me to look up what was actually going on there and learn about the artists, the earthquake, the reconstruction. I'm better and more knowledgable now and I would have gladly have paid for it. In fact I bought a shirt as way of making a contribution. If the artists feels that not charging thais is a way of giving back to his own people then so be it.

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Pensioners' discounts are not discriminatory; they are old age benefits. If you live long enough, society gives you a break. Do you give up your seat on the bus to an elderly person or do you just say, "Suck on it grampa! Just hang on to the pole."

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Pensioners' discounts are not discriminatory; they are old age benefits.

You need to get used to the fact that you a Foreigner in Thailand and its your privilege to be allowed to stay here .

You must also go regularly to the Thai authorities to ask them to grant you that privilege to stay .

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Pensioners' discounts are not discriminatory; they are old age benefits.

You need to get used to the fact that you a Foreigner in Thailand and its your privilege to be allowed to stay here .

You must also go regularly to the Thai authorities to ask them to grant you that privilege to stay .

Good that I don't have to ask you for granting that privilege. biggrin.png

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Thailand does not discriminate on the basis of any of those things, it discriminates solely on the basis of nationality, not religion, not skin colour, not race, not heritage, just nationality.

In a strict sense, yes. But as a farang approaches a Thai park or the White Temple, he/she is judged on appearance, sometimes from 50 meters away. You and I can tell a Thai from a non-Thai at fifty paces, and so can the people taking money at those public sites. Neither we nor the money-takers need to see ID to gauge who is farang and who is Thai. Farang already know they're farang, and many don't particularly like being reminded in such a crass fashion (as being required to pay more than the next person, due to physical appearance).

Perhaps the rules don't state it's based on physical appearance, but physical appearance is what it boils down to.

There's also a deep-set belief in Thai minds that every farang in Thailand is rich, or at least can go everyday to the ATM and withdraw the maximum Bt.20,000. Also, the wrong-headed dual-pricing doesn't take into account that many Thai are well-off financially, and some Thais are richer than most farang can ever hope to be. Do the money-takers ask the Thais if they can afford the ticket price? Or do they ask to see the net worth of Thais who want entry to the site? Of course not.

Similarly, a farang with SE Asian features can probably walk in for free, because that person is assumed to be Thai - unless that person is accompanied by a farang, or is dressed non-Thai attire, or is accompanied by kids who don't look entirely Thai.

All in all, it's a dumb and discriminatory rule. Double pricing is biased and old school. Better would be a 'suggested entry fee'.

People could choose to pay, or choose not to pay. You might say, "well, then no one would pay," ....but I don't think that's so. For example, there is software on the internet which is free, but asks for a donation. I sometimes donate, as do others.

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I think that a previous post offers a reasonable point that many Thais make donations when visiting.

The complex has been built by donations and possibly Thai government contributions and I suggest that the earthquake repairs were paid for in a similar fashion.

Maybe asking foreigners to contribute doesn't seem quite so unreasonable in this light.

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Asking for donations is fine. This thread is about requiring fees from some people and allowing others to enter for free - based on physical characteristics (though purportedly based on nationality).

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I really appreciate that Webfact posts these news items in our local forum, especially when they are not drug or crime related. It helps to direct traffic to our quite and polite little forum.

Some will argue this is a temple, while others will say it is a privately owned tourist attraction. Some will say 50 baht is insignificant and others will try to blow it out of proportion, claiming some western notions of principle or fairness which they consider universal but aren’t.
As long as people remain civil and respectful of those with different views, I think it makes for an interesting conversation and a chance for people to express their opinions.
For me the question is simply about what I am going to do. Am I going to go or not. I am not authoritarian by nature and don’t feel qualified to make proclamations about how things should be or what others should do. Even if people want to joust at windmills it is fine with me, even though I may find it silly or useless.

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I wonder how the owner of this pretend temple would feel if he was asked to pay an entrance fee in lets say Parc de Boulogne in Paris because he is asian.

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As long as I can buy a coconut ice afterwards I will gladly donate my 100 bt to see everything. Perspective is everything.

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