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Thailand's infamous tiger temple fights to keep big cats

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Thailand's infamous tiger temple fights to keep big cats

By Jutarat Skulpichetrat

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand's controversial Tiger Temple, dogged for years by talk that it supplies the black market and mistreats its animals, is fighting to keep the big cats after wildlife authorities rejected a bid to extend a zoo license that expired in 2013.

The Buddhist temple, home to more than 100 tigers, has been investigated for suspected links to wildlife trafficking and wildlife activists have accused it of illegal breeding of the animals.

Thai wildlife authorities have sent ten of the temple's tigers to a wildlife sanctuary.

But the temple, which bills itself as a wildlife sanctuary, has denied links to illegal trafficking, and wants to hold on to its tigers.

Full story: http://news.yahoo.com/thailands-infamous-tiger-temple-fights-keep-big-cats-111358566.html

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-- Reuters 2016-02-27

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Trafficked tigers bring big money.

Obviously they will fight to keep them. Great paydays for those involved.

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Hey, the monks need the income. Austerity ain't as cheap as it used to be.

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Trafficked tigers bring big money.

Obviously they will fight to keep them. Great paydays for those involved.

"The world is looking at us," he added. "The temple did not allow officials to enforce the law. The temple has affected Thai tourism."

True but now TAT is worried about it's income stream. Time to take action when that's hurting.

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Whereas moving the tigers a small number at a time is IMO a step in the right direction, In a perfect world the Tigers would be allowed to remain at the temple at least until their fate can be effectively organised. It is the monks that need to be replaced...at least in so far as looking after the tigers is concerned.

remember they don't own these tigers they are property of the state - it is the state that has an obligation to look after them in the long run.

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Milking off the tourist, is fine if the habitat and welfare for these great cats was the primary channel for the money, We al know it is not so, I have no idea on farming , breeding , but do know and have seen the sad lethargic state of the ones paraded, for photo shoots, and i never recommend the place to any visitors with gusto!

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Whereas moving the tigers a small number at a time is IMO a step in the right direction, In a perfect world the Tigers would be allowed to remain at the temple at least until their fate can be effectively organised. It is the monks that need to be replaced...at least in so far as looking after the tigers is concerned.

remember they don't own these tigers they are property of the state - it is the state that has an obligation to look after them in the long run.

If allowed to stay, they will continue doing what they've been doing. Selling tiger parts, shipping out cats in the middle of the night, etc. It needs to be shut down immediately and those violating laws jailed.

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Shut the place down they dont look after the animals , just like they dont look after tourist attraction all about take never give.

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Whereas moving the tigers a small number at a time is IMO a step in the right direction, In a perfect world the Tigers would be allowed to remain at the temple at least until their fate can be effectively organised. It is the monks that need to be replaced...at least in so far as looking after the tigers is concerned.

remember they don't own these tigers they are property of the state - it is the state that has an obligation to look after them in the long run.

If allowed to stay, they will continue doing what they've been doing. Selling tiger parts, shipping out cats in the middle of the night, etc. It needs to be shut down immediately and those violating laws jailed.

I think the first thing - as I said above should have been regime change - the daily management should have been taken out of the hands of the monks. This would stop any illicit trading and would have ensured a scientific approach to the care of the tigers. Whilst the tigers are still in the hands of the monks they are being subject to many practices that are not inline with current animal welfare thinking - quite apart from any trading.

With a new management in place the removal and re-housing of the tigers could then go ahead without any interference from the monks.

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Shut the place down they dont look after the animals , just like they dont look after tourist attraction all about take never give.

On first glance this seems to be an easy solution - but you are talking about 150 tigers that need to be dealt with - ever since 2007 the Thai authorities having realised what a big problem this was, have, until now, shied away from dealing with it. In doing so they have exacerbated the problem. The shear numbers now present a very real obstacle to sorting this out. This is of course why I think "regime change" at the temple would be helpful.

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Whereas moving the tigers a small number at a time is IMO a step in the right direction, In a perfect world the Tigers would be allowed to remain at the temple at least until their fate can be effectively organised. It is the monks that need to be replaced...at least in so far as looking after the tigers is concerned.

remember they don't own these tigers they are property of the state - it is the state that has an obligation to look after them in the long run.

If allowed to stay, they will continue doing what they've been doing. Selling tiger parts, shipping out cats in the middle of the night, etc. It needs to be shut down immediately and those violating laws jailed.

I think the first thing - as I said above should have been regime change - the daily management should have been taken out of the hands of the monks. This would stop any illicit trading and would have ensured a scientific approach to the care of the tigers. Whilst the tigers are still in the hands of the monks they are being subject to many practices that are not inline with current animal welfare thinking - quite apart from any trading.

With a new management in place the removal and re-housing of the tigers could then go ahead without any interference from the monks.

I'm not sure why it would be easier to remove the monks than the tigers.

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Skip to about 2:30. Incredible Thailand allowed this to happen. Unreal:

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Whereas moving the tigers a small number at a time is IMO a step in the right direction, In a perfect world the Tigers would be allowed to remain at the temple at least until their fate can be effectively organised. It is the monks that need to be replaced...at least in so far as looking after the tigers is concerned.

remember they don't own these tigers they are property of the state - it is the state that has an obligation to look after them in the long run.

If allowed to stay, they will continue doing what they've been doing. Selling tiger parts, shipping out cats in the middle of the night, etc. It needs to be shut down immediately and those violating laws jailed.

I think the first thing - as I said above should have been regime change - the daily management should have been taken out of the hands of the monks. This would stop any illicit trading and would have ensured a scientific approach to the care of the tigers. Whilst the tigers are still in the hands of the monks they are being subject to many practices that are not inline with current animal welfare thinking - quite apart from any trading.

With a new management in place the removal and re-housing of the tigers could then go ahead without any interference from the monks.

I'm not sure why it would be easier to remove the monks than the tigers.

You don't have to remove the monks - you take the daily running of the place out of their hands.

Several wildlife organisations have offered help and advice to the temple but have been refused. It is quite possible for "outsiders" to take over the running of the temple. It would also make the plight of the tiger immediately better and facilitate they removal to other places. There is a lot of work that needs to be done on the tigers that would actually be best done in situ. They all need to be properly identifies and their chips verified. They also all need to be DNA tested - a lot of this would be better done BEFORE removal as it may actually be a determining factor as to where the tigers are placed.

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Too much money at stake, both for the monks and for

the government officials who have turned a blind eye.

This will be in the news for a while, proper money will

be paid, a few lip service tigers will be transferred,

and then it will do the gentle Thai fade away in the

news. This place will never be closed down.....

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