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On 10/12/2018 at 12:31 AM, jak2002003 said:

White Vented Myna bird info....  surprising (at least to me).

 

I just found out  the White Vented Myna Bird (the kind with the spiky crest punk hairstyle) is not native to Thailand

 

Its an introduced species and now some see it as an invasive species competing with the common myna.

 

I had to check on the net to confirm this info, and also found it is classified as VUNERABLE to EXTINCTION!

 

This is almost unbelievable to me as there are literally thousands of them where I live... massive noisy flocks roosting in the bamboo, and they are more common here than the common myna bird.  Out in the rice fields there are everywhere, even riding on the backs of the cows and buffalos. They are also lots jumping about on the roads all the time looking for squashed animals to eat.

 

Says on the net that they are introduced and breeding in South East Thailand.  They need change that info, because they are sure breeding up here in the North too and have been doing so for the 15 plus years I have been here.

 

I always thought that this bird was native to Thailand, and still can hardly imagine they are facing extinction.  Seems there came from Java and there they are in decline due to destruction of the forests (which I find strange as they are more liking farmland here).  

 

Was all this common knowledge to birders here?

White Vented Myna.PNG

 

seen one of these guys perched outside my kitchen window the other day...distinctive yellow bill and crest...in south Suphanburi...

 

 

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5 hours ago, AjarnNorth said:

bird of the day. Osprey.

NICE. I've yet to see Osprey in T-land. Growing up in Florida they were everywhere. Always cool to see their large stick nests and especially them fishing. 

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5 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

NICE. I've yet to see Osprey in T-land. Growing up in Florida they were everywhere. Always cool to see their large stick nests and especially them fishing. 

yeah, me too when I was living in Oregon on the west coast...see them from the crew bus on the way to and from work in the woods, the big nests in the uppermost crown of the timber, always near water, reservoir, big pond, etc...watching them fish was really neat...

 

ospreys 'from sea to shining sea'...amazing how when ye live in a place with abundant wildlife ye take things fer granted...then later to marvel when not so abundant...if I saw an osprey fishing these days believe I'd be jumpin' around and hollerin'...

 

 

 

 

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If you get out in the mangroves, wetlands, rice paddies of Thailand enough then you will eventually come across many sights such as this. I know people are poor and need to eat, but it's a pretty bad way to catch your dinner. This bird - Red-wattled Lapwing - was still alive but I couldn't reach it and even if I could it may not have been wise to cut up someone's net in broad daylight, though I have done so before. I did speak to folks there and tell them my thoughts and the net is down now, but it was likely just moved to a more hidden location.

Mist Net RWLW.jpg

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On ‎10‎/‎23‎/‎2018 at 2:37 PM, Bredbury Blue said:

Reminds me of the post i made a year ago of egrets in cages for sale roadside in south vietnam. The viets didn't understand  why i wanted them to stop the car to take photos; the Viets told me they were tasty and did i want to try (no thanks) while the Thais at home were appalled at catching and eating egrets. Where i was working on the coast in south vietnam there was almost no apparent birdlife as the viets catch and eat them (if you think Thais eat everything and anything, well they can't compete with the viets).

 

Each country has it's own pecularities. Catching and eating birds to us westerners seems unnecessary.

I just returned from Hanoi and Dan Nang.  I was really depressed by the lack of birds about.

 

I stayed 2 weeks and counted less then 10 sparrows in city, one pied wagtail and one white rumped shama (both in the grounds of a museum).   There were not even any feral pigeons!!  Hanoi is so green and has so many mature beautiful trees about, but seems not a single bird in them.  

 

Once in a while I would hear a bird call and be hopeful there was a bird about. But it was always a oriental white eye or bulbul caged up in the most tiny wooden cage hanging on a tree.

 

Coming back home to Chiang Mai I was taken aback by the abundance of birds here (even through people also do catch them).  My garden has a huge flock of sparrows, many doves and other birds, and flocks of many species flying about in the sky.  Nice to be back.  

 

On my last day in Vietnam, returning to the airport, I saw a motorbike covered in cages stuffed with wild birds (must be going to sell them as pets).  Got this photo off the web, but it was exactly like this…..

 

 

 

 

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when I lived in a rural place in VN we had some house sparrows about and an occasional egret in a paddy...there were some seabirds by the beach where I lived...the place was undeveloped and one would expect to see lots more birds...

 

things haven't recovered from the tons of defoliant dumped locally during the american war...we were close to the Ho Chi Minh Trail that began near Vinh on the north central coast which was close by and that has a seaport and the trail hooked over to the western mountains from there...that was the target for most of the chemicals...

 

then there is the rural poverty which is a disgrace for a socialist country and folks forage for whatever they can get including wild birds...

 

 

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Saw a HUGE flock of thousands of munia finches in some rice fields near my house.  Did not have my camera or phone with me sadly!!

 

Not sure if they were scaly breasted or white-rumped munia.

 

I know they can be in flocks of about 100 or so.  But this flock was thousands... like a huge black cloud when it took off and flew over my head, disturbed by my dog.  I have never seen such a large flock of birds here.. reminded my of the big flocks of starlings we get in the UK in wintertime.  

 

It was a very impressive sight, but such small birds.

 

At the same place at night I saw some quails.  They were very small and I suspect they were king quail / Chinese Painted quails.  They flew up into the air with rapid wingbeats and vanished into the darkness as I walked past.. they waited till I was nearly stepping on them before taking off. 

 

Anyone else seen quails here?  

 

 

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On 11/22/2018 at 2:28 PM, jak2002003 said:

Saw a HUGE flock of thousands of munia finches in some rice fields near my house.  Did not have my camera or phone with me sadly!!

 

Not sure if they were scaly breasted or white-rumped munia.

 

I know they can be in flocks of about 100 or so.  But this flock was thousands... like a huge black cloud when it took off and flew over my head, disturbed by my dog.  I have never seen such a large flock of birds here.. reminded my of the big flocks of starlings we get in the UK in wintertime.  

 

It was a very impressive sight, but such small birds.

 

At the same place at night I saw some quails.  They were very small and I suspect they were king quail / Chinese Painted quails.  They flew up into the air with rapid wingbeats and vanished into the darkness as I walked past.. they waited till I was nearly stepping on them before taking off. 

 

Anyone else seen quails here?  

 

 

Scaly-breasted are always the most likely in my experience. Especially in those numbers. They're one of the reasons rice farmers string mist nets. 

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8 minutes ago, AjarnNorth said:

Oh, and "king quail / Chinese Painted" don't occur here in Thailand (to my knowledge). Where are you again? 

Also, consider snipe. Snipe tend to flush only when you get very close. 

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