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Liberals are the biggest fools out there. Like Tony Blair, he dragged UK into the Iraq war and believed the BS that Saddam has WMD. As a result of the pointless Iraq invasion, 180 british troops died in their prime, in their 20s and 30s. Poor guys. They died for NOTHING!

You do know that Dubya and Dick Cheney were conservative Republicans......right?

Yeah they were, whats even funnier is that they convinced a liberal to follow them into Iraq.

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All empires crumble at some time. Perhaps it will soon be that time for the USA. If Trump gains the W.House, America's demise will be with whimpers, not with roars. It won't be because the US was defeated at war (America survived alright after withdrawing from VN). No, it may be from abysmal leadership from a hot-tempered, name-calling, flip-flopping liar. At the very least, it will put great strain on checks and balances, not to mention debilitating protests on a scale not seen since the anti-VN-war.

Look at the trouble Thailand went through to rid itself of Thaksin (Trump's fraternal twin). Thailand is still suffering repercussions 15 years later, and counting. Multiply that by 10,000 and you get an idea of the troubles Trump will bring to the USA, and the shambles he'll leave in his long wake.

The current leadership has left the US in a shambles. Unchecked illegal immigration with some states giving them driver's licenses and then allowing them to vote. Jobs being shipped to China and Mexico due to lousy trade deals. China and Mexico getting to export things to the US duty-free but charging import duties on US goods to name just one. GM wanted to sell Cadillacs in China so China required that they be built there to do it, yet Chinese shit floods the US duty free.

These are all lousy deals for the working class. This is a working class revolt and it's well past due.

Cheers.

All of these things that you speak of has been going on for a long time, much longer than the current administration. Most of it is not even political, but the normal evolution of the US economy in a globalized world. Surely you and your fascist leader Trump are aware of this.

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Trump,Erdogan,Putin,Berlusconi.

All these guys have one thing in common, they tell it like it is. Thats why they are hated by the political correct media and establishment. Liberals despise strong leaders.

I hope he is elected!

Stupidity on display.

Erdogan tells it like it is? Like when he recently said Cuba was originally a Muslim land and Christopher Columbus saw a mosque there? Or the way he is behaves like a petty, little girl who has university students prosecuted and jailed for tweeting criticism or jokes directed at him? Or Putin, a KGB thug who uses oppression and murder to stifle anyone that crosses him? Even sending agents abroad to place plutonium in a defectors tea? And Berlusconi, a man who all evidence points to soliciting underage prostitutes.

Yeah, people must dislike guys like these because "they tell it like it is." You cannot be this dense. You are displaying willful ignorance at this point.

You think you know better than the people living in those countries do you? Erdogan was elected with 52% of the popular vote. Putin was elected with 80% + of the popular vote. They are liked by the people. It still has not been proven that Berlusconi slept with underage girls.

In regard to what he did to that KGB agent, thats how a country deals with a traitor. He wasnt a defector, but a traitor.

Ignorance on display again. If you really think elections in Russia are free and fair I have some magic beans to sell you.......lol.

Next, you will be telling me how awesome Kim Jung Un is because he won 99% of the popular vote. Get your head out of the sand.....seriously.

Not to mention this has nothing to do with my post. Obviously some individuals like people like this. Just like others of limited intellectual ability like Trump. But none of this has anything to do with your statement of people not liking them because "they tell it like it is" which is simply false.

I remember in 2008 people kept saying the same about Palin. "Liberals don't like her because they can't handle the truth!". Um, no......liberals and conservatives alike do not like Palin because she is mentally handicapped.

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Trump,Erdogan,Putin,Berlusconi.

All these guys have one thing in common, they tell it like it is. Thats why they are hated by the political correct media and establishment. Liberals despise strong leaders.

I hope he is elected!

Stupidity on display.

Erdogan tells it like it is? Like when he recently said Cuba was originally a Muslim land and Christopher Columbus saw a mosque there? Or the way he is behaves like a petty, little girl who has university students prosecuted and jailed for tweeting criticism or jokes directed at him? Or Putin, a KGB thug who uses oppression and murder to stifle anyone that crosses him? Even sending agents abroad to place plutonium in a defectors tea? And Berlusconi, a man who all evidence points to soliciting underage prostitutes.

Yeah, people must dislike guys like these because "they tell it like it is." You cannot be this dense. You are displaying willful ignorance at this point.

You think you know better than the people living in those countries do you? Erdogan was elected with 52% of the popular vote. Putin was elected with 80% + of the popular vote. They are liked by the people. It still has not been proven that Berlusconi slept with underage girls.

In regard to what he did to that KGB agent, thats how a country deals with a traitor. He wasnt a defector, but a traitor.

Ignorance on display again. If you really think elections in Russia are free and fair I have some magic beans to sell you.......lol.

Next, you will be telling me how awesome Kim Jung Un is because he won 99% of the popular vote. Get your head out of the sand.....seriously.

Not to mention this has nothing to do with my post. Obviously some individuals like people like this. Just like others of limited intellectual ability like Trump. But none of this has anything to do with your statement of people not liking them because "they tell it like it is" which is simply false.

I remember in 2008 people kept saying the same about Palin. "Liberals don't like her because they can't handle the truth!". Um, no......liberals and conservatives alike do not like Palin because she is mentally handicapped.

So lets look at Trumps alternative then, Hillary.

She is responsibe for toppling Muammer Gadhafi, now Libya has ben destabilized and has become a hotbed for ISIS. She is one of the people responsible for the mess in the middle east, and the migrant invasion in Europe.

What is Trump saying? He wants to solve the Palestnian problem with diplomacy, normalise relations with Russia, destroy ISIS.

Sounds like a very smart and pragmatic policy.

Yet you are depicting him as a fascist.

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Donald Trump has never suggested that he would randomly bomb the Middle East.

No, but he did say:

When asked about experts who said the military would have to turn down Trump orders if they involved breaking the law, Trump said: "They won't refuse. They're not going to refuse me. Believe me."

Later, amid a discussion about waterboarding, torture and targeting terrorist families, Trump said: "If I say do it, they're going to do it. That's what leadership is all about."

Of course when he realised how stupid that was, the next day he completely reversed his position.

The idiot says the first thing that comes into his head, and the idiots that follow him lap up every word.

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Stupidity on display.

Erdogan tells it like it is? Like when he recently said Cuba was originally a Muslim land and Christopher Columbus saw a mosque there? Or the way he is behaves like a petty, little girl who has university students prosecuted and jailed for tweeting criticism or jokes directed at him? Or Putin, a KGB thug who uses oppression and murder to stifle anyone that crosses him? Even sending agents abroad to place plutonium in a defectors tea? And Berlusconi, a man who all evidence points to soliciting underage prostitutes.

Yeah, people must dislike guys like these because "they tell it like it is." You cannot be this dense. You are displaying willful ignorance at this point.

You think you know better than the people living in those countries do you? Erdogan was elected with 52% of the popular vote. Putin was elected with 80% + of the popular vote. They are liked by the people. It still has not been proven that Berlusconi slept with underage girls.

In regard to what he did to that KGB agent, thats how a country deals with a traitor. He wasnt a defector, but a traitor.

Ignorance on display again. If you really think elections in Russia are free and fair I have some magic beans to sell you.......lol.

Next, you will be telling me how awesome Kim Jung Un is because he won 99% of the popular vote. Get your head out of the sand.....seriously.

Not to mention this has nothing to do with my post. Obviously some individuals like people like this. Just like others of limited intellectual ability like Trump. But none of this has anything to do with your statement of people not liking them because "they tell it like it is" which is simply false.

I remember in 2008 people kept saying the same about Palin. "Liberals don't like her because they can't handle the truth!". Um, no......liberals and conservatives alike do not like Palin because she is mentally handicapped.

So lets look at Trumps alternative then, Hillary.

She is responsibe for toppling Muammer Gadhafi, now Libya has ben destabilized and has become a hotbed for ISIS. She is one of the people responsible for the mess in the middle east, and the migrant invasion in Europe.

What is Trump saying? He wants to solve the Palestnian problem with diplomacy, normalise relations with Russia, destroy ISIS.

Sounds like a very smart and pragmatic policy.

Yet you are depicting him as a fascist.

Yes, because that is clearly all Trump has said right? He never said American wages are too high, encourages violence against people who interrupt him, that he will violate the Geneva Convention through torture and targeting of families, tax all Chinese imports by 25% (which that cost will then be passed onto you as the consumer), habitually lying about anything and everything under the sun......I cannot possibly list all of it. But lets at least try to be intellectually honest here. Please don't name 3 random things you like about Trump (all of which he is not capable of doing and will fail miserably at) and pretend like these are the cornerstones of what Trump stands for as a potential president.

I am not depicting him as a fascist. He depicts himself as one. Experts across the political/academic spectrum are seemingly in agreement as well. Maybe you don't have a comprehensive understanding of Fascist ideology? It is not as simplistic as people tend to think. It is a highly sophisticated political ideology. I mean have you ever read anything by Giovanni Gentile? If not, it would be pretty impossible to actually understand what Fascism really is since Gentile is the father of original Fascist thought. Kinda like people who love throwing around the term Communism but have never bothered to read the mere 60 pages that compose Marx's Communist Manifesto. I would be happy to direct you to more source material regarding Fascism if you would like to learn more.

And by the way, Libya was an international failure with many to blame. And to claim Clinton is responsible for the migrant invasion of Europe is laughable.

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Donald Trump has never suggested that he would randomly bomb the Middle East.

No, but he did say:

When asked about experts who said the military would have to turn down Trump orders if they involved breaking the law, Trump said: "They won't refuse. They're not going to refuse me. Believe me."

Later, amid a discussion about waterboarding, torture and targeting terrorist families, Trump said: "If I say do it, they're going to do it. That's what leadership is all about."

Of course when he realised how stupid that was, the next day he completely reversed his position.

The idiot says the first thing that comes into his head, and the idiots that follow him lap up every word.

Have you ever lived in a environment where regularly suicide attacks happened? Well I have, I am Turkish, we experienced 3 terror atacks in the last 6 months. Total 150 civilians died.

Taking out the families of terrorists? This is actually the best way to fight terror, these terrorists dont care about their life hence they blow themselves up. But they care about their families. And in 99% of the cases , the family is the one that is radicalising them. It is not their friends, not their teachers but their family.

Unfortunately our government has never implemented a policy like this, but the general population wants them to.

Trump is right!

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This is a must read for all you liberal progressive Americans, Brits, other Europeans, Aussies and Kiwis.

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Whether you’re fearful of a President Trump, stressed out by Hillary Clinton or worried about Bernie, here’s how to breathe, face your feelings and get through it
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So far, the road to the 2016 presidential election has been more like a terrifying parade of insults, fights and even featured the occasional white supremacist. It’s been an unpredictable campaign season; Donald Trump is looking increasingly more likely to be the Republican nominee, establishment candidates like Jeb Bush dropped out early and despite her best efforts, Hillary Clinton still hasn’t locked in her place on the ballot. It’s no surprise we’re gripped with election anxiety.
Maybe you’re fearful of a president who flip-flops or one who’ll take away your healthcare. Maybe you’re passionate about Bernie Sanders’ political revolution and worried it won’t happen. Perhaps you had been gripped by #Rubiomentum only to see his strong head of hair bow out last night. There are still seven and a half months to go.
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Donald Trump has never suggested that he would randomly bomb the Middle East.

No, but he did say:

When asked about experts who said the military would have to turn down Trump orders if they involved breaking the law, Trump said: "They won't refuse. They're not going to refuse me. Believe me."

Later, amid a discussion about waterboarding, torture and targeting terrorist families, Trump said: "If I say do it, they're going to do it. That's what leadership is all about."

Of course when he realised how stupid that was, the next day he completely reversed his position.

The idiot says the first thing that comes into his head, and the idiots that follow him lap up every word.

Have you ever lived in a environment where regularly suicide attacks happened? Well I have, I am Turkish, we experienced 3 terror atacks in the last 6 months. Total 150 civilians died.

Taking out the families of terrorists? This is actually the best way to fight terror, these terrorists dont care about their life hence they blow themselves up. But they care about their families. And in 99% of the cases , the family is the once that is radicalising them. It is not their friends, not their teachers but their family.

Unfortunately our government has never implemented a policy like this, but the general population wants them to.

Trump is right!

Then with that logic, if you ever commit a crime of any sorts, your family should be executed for it. Plain and simple. Because you know, if you ever commit a crime, it is 99% certain your family raised you like that.

Your 99% statistic is an ignorant guess on your part with no evidence to back it. Are you Muslim? Do you know anything about Islam? Going after their families will not deter a true believer. They believe in the concept of Martyrdom and paradise and believe their families will go with them when they die. This life means nothing to them. That is why they are willing to partake in a SUICIDE attack. Israel has been demolishing homes of terrorists families for years and it has done nothing to prevent future attacks. There is actually a ton of evidence it creates more sympathy to the cause of radical Islam. You are in serious need of an education.

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We have a Kurdish seperatist problem, not a radical islam one. These seperatists do not believe in after life, or god for that matter. They are fueled by Marxism/Socialism . They are indeed scared that the government will go after their families. Colombia has used this policy against the family members of FARC terrorists, and it has ended the problem with a great degree of success.

But our govt is a pussy and is afraid of violating the geneva convention. Colombia and Israel has more balls than us

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All empires crumble at some time. Perhaps it will soon be that time for the USA. If Trump gains the W.House, America's demise will be with whimpers, not with roars. It won't be because the US was defeated at war (America survived alright after withdrawing from VN). No, it may be from abysmal leadership from a hot-tempered, name-calling, flip-flopping liar. At the very least, it will put great strain on checks and balances, not to mention debilitating protests on a scale not seen since the anti-VN-war.

Look at the trouble Thailand went through to rid itself of Thaksin (Trump's fraternal twin). Thailand is still suffering repercussions 15 years later, and counting. Multiply that by 10,000 and you get an idea of the troubles Trump will bring to the USA, and the shambles he'll leave in his long wake.

The current leadership has left the US in a shambles. Unchecked illegal immigration with some states giving them driver's licenses and then allowing them to vote. Jobs being shipped to China and Mexico due to lousy trade deals. China and Mexico getting to export things to the US duty-free but charging import duties on US goods to name just one. GM wanted to sell Cadillacs in China so China required that they be built there to do it, yet Chinese shit floods the US duty free.

These are all lousy deals for the working class. This is a working class revolt and it's well past due.

Cheers.

Jim Cramer on supporting Trump's view on trade: Trump has been pro worker and against lopsided trade deals for over a decade. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/17/cramer-i-agree-with-trump-on-trade.html

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We have a Kurdish seperatist problem, not a radical islam one. These seperatists do not believe in after life, or god for that matter. They are fueled by Marxism/Socialism . They are indeed scared that the government will go after their families. Colombia has used this policy against the family members of FARC terrorists, and it has ended the problem with a great degree of success.

But our govt is a pussy and is afraid of violating the geneva convention. Colombia and Israel has more balls than us

I will concede that the Kurdish separatist issue is not linked to radical Islam. However, have there not been recent attacks within Turkey carried out by ISIS as well? I think we can safely say that those are based in their radical beliefs.

So the Geneva Convention is worthless and should be violated? People who don't believe countries should be torturing and murdering imprisoned soldiers, or kill innocents are simply pussies? Interesting. Would you like to share with us what military or intelligence experience you have? My guess would be that you have none. Most soldiers or operatives that have been to war rarely encourage torture because they know if could happen to them or their brothers should they be captured. It is generally only keyboard warriors that speak in such a way.

And by the way, do you really believe radical Islam does not exist in your country. Pew polling has shown a disturbing number of Turkish citizens believe in very, very radical ideas such as execution as punishment for apostasy and stoning to death of adulterers. This is pretty radical stuff in the year 2016!

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Hillary or Bernie will stop Trump in his tracks and then the electorate will deliver the 'coup de grace'.

It's a little funny a Koch et al stockpile of $880M and no credible candidate to spend it on. Like having $20M and walking into a $2 junk shop lol

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We have a Kurdish seperatist problem, not a radical islam one. These seperatists do not believe in after life, or god for that matter. They are fueled by Marxism/Socialism . They are indeed scared that the government will go after their families. Colombia has used this policy against the family members of FARC terrorists, and it has ended the problem with a great degree of success.

But our govt is a pussy and is afraid of violating the geneva convention. Colombia and Israel has more balls than us

I will concede that the Kurdish separatist issue is not linked to radical Islam. However, have there not been recent attacks within Turkey carried out by ISIS as well? I think we can safely say that those are based in their radical beliefs.

So the Geneva Convention is worthless and should be violated? People who don't believe countries should be torturing and murdering imprisoned soldiers, or kill innocents are simply pussies? Interesting. Would you like to share with us what military or intelligence experience you have? My guess would be that you have none. Most soldiers or operatives that have been to war rarely encourage torture because they know if could happen to them or their brothers should they be captured. It is generally only keyboard warriors that speak in such a way.

And by the way, do you really believe radical Islam does not exist in your country. Pew polling has shown a disturbing number of Turkish citizens believe in very, very radical ideas such as execution as punishment for apostasy and stoning to death of adulterers. This is pretty radical stuff in the year 2016!

I am an agnostic Turk. I have a lot of conservative friends.

How many islamic terrorists in the last 15 years have had Turkish passports, let me tell you only a very few. Arabs and Turks are very different, if majority of arabs happened to be Christian, they would behead people in the name of Jesus, trust me. Islam is not the problem, Arabs are.

The national drink of Turkey is Raki, it contains 40% alcohol, and is nearly sold everywhere. Yes we have conservative people, we have people who think women should wear headscarf, but I have never encountered someone who sees it ok blowing up yourself in the name of Allah.

By the way, I am against torture. But I am not against taking out terrorist families.

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We have a Kurdish seperatist problem, not a radical islam one. These seperatists do not believe in after life, or god for that matter. They are fueled by Marxism/Socialism . They are indeed scared that the government will go after their families. Colombia has used this policy against the family members of FARC terrorists, and it has ended the problem with a great degree of success.

But our govt is a pussy and is afraid of violating the geneva convention. Colombia and Israel has more balls than us

I will concede that the Kurdish separatist issue is not linked to radical Islam. However, have there not been recent attacks within Turkey carried out by ISIS as well? I think we can safely say that those are based in their radical beliefs.

So the Geneva Convention is worthless and should be violated? People who don't believe countries should be torturing and murdering imprisoned soldiers, or kill innocents are simply pussies? Interesting. Would you like to share with us what military or intelligence experience you have? My guess would be that you have none. Most soldiers or operatives that have been to war rarely encourage torture because they know if could happen to them or their brothers should they be captured. It is generally only keyboard warriors that speak in such a way.

And by the way, do you really believe radical Islam does not exist in your country. Pew polling has shown a disturbing number of Turkish citizens believe in very, very radical ideas such as execution as punishment for apostasy and stoning to death of adulterers. This is pretty radical stuff in the year 2016!

I am an agnostic Turk. I have a lot of conservative friends.

How many islamic terrorists in the last 15 years have had Turkish passports, let me tell you only a very few. Arabs and Turks are very different, if majority of arabs happened to be Christian, they would behead people in the name of Jesus, trust me. Islam is not the problem, Arabs are.

The national drink of Turkey is Raki, it contains 40% alcohol, and is nearly sold everywhere. Yes we have conservative people, we have people who think women should wear headscarf, but I have never encountered someone who sees it ok blowing up yourself in the name of Allah.

By the way, I am against torture. But I am not against taking out terrorist families.

If we were speaking 500 years ago, I would absolutely be more concerned about Christianity. But we are not. This is 2016. Islam is major problem in the world right now. Not just Arab Muslims. The two shining examples of "moderate" Islam that are always sourced are both Turkey and Indonesia. It does not take much digging to see through this. There is a shocking level of obscene belief that transcends through almost all Islamic countries. Not everyone believes such obscene beliefs, but a dangerous number of people do.

The fact you have never personally encountered someone who will admit that they believe in suicide terrorism is not surprising. It is not generally dinner time discussion. However, tons of research has been done on this very issue. While the majority of people would never personally blow themselves up in an act of suicide terrorism, a shocking number of Muslim's support it.

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Trump,Erdogan,Putin,Berlusconi.

All these guys have one thing in common, they tell it like it is. Thats why they are hated by the political correct media and establishment. Liberals despise strong leaders.


I hope he is elected!


Stupidity on display.

Erdogan tells it like it is? Like when he recently said Cuba was originally a Muslim land and Christopher Columbus saw a mosque there? Or the way he is behaves like a petty, little girl who has university students prosecuted and jailed for tweeting criticism or jokes directed at him? Or Putin, a KGB thug who uses oppression and murder to stifle anyone that crosses him? Even sending agents abroad to place plutonium in a defectors tea? And Berlusconi, a man who all evidence points to soliciting underage prostitutes.

Yeah, people must dislike guys like these because "they tell it like it is." You cannot be this dense. You are displaying willful ignorance at this point.



You think you know better than the people living in those countries do you? Erdogan was elected with 52% of the popular vote. Putin was elected with 80% + of the popular vote. They are liked by the people. It still has not been proven that Berlusconi slept with underage girls.

In regard to what he did to that KGB agent, thats how a country deals with a traitor. He wasnt a defector, but a traitor.


Ignorance on display again. If you really think elections in Russia are free and fair I have some magic beans to sell you.......lol.
Next, you will be telling me how awesome Kim Jung Un is because he won 99% of the popular vote. Get your head out of the sand.....seriously.

Not to mention this has nothing to do with my post. Obviously some individuals like people like this. Just like others of limited intellectual ability like Trump. But none of this has anything to do with your statement of people not liking them because "they tell it like it is" which is simply false.

I remember in 2008 people kept saying the same about Palin. "Liberals don't like her because they can't handle the truth!". Um, no......liberals and conservatives alike do not like Palin because she is mentally handicapped.


So lets look at Trumps alternative then, Hillary.

She is responsibe for toppling Muammer Gadhafi, now Libya has ben destabilized and has become a hotbed for ISIS. She is one of the people responsible for the mess in the middle east, and the migrant invasion in Europe.

What is Trump saying? He wants to solve the Palestnian problem with diplomacy, normalise relations with Russia, destroy ISIS.

Sounds like a very smart and pragmatic policy.

Yet you are depicting him as a fascist.
Bernie is not out yet !
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Lesser of two evils deal with the choice being obvious.

Meet President Hillary Rodham Clinton, dudes.

What the slurping Trump fanboys can't seem to grasp is that this type of ad is going to turn off more than 50% of the electorate immediately.

Sure, it plays well with know-nothing wingnuts with "never forget Benghazi" tattoos, but how do you think moderate women will react? Here's a hint: it won't be positively.

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Let's just say Trump get enough delegates and he runs against Hillary. Where is his support money going to come from ? Hillary will get half a billion or more given from everywhere. Trump will get perhaps 100 million from supporters. You know that he says he is supporting himself but really he is not. He is only lending 90% of the money to his campaign not giving it. He is in this to make money and if he has to spend hundreds of millions of his own money he will pussy out and just slowly fade away.

Bernie will also have enough support as he has proven him self already.

Trump will never be president, Never !

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Posts # 192, 194, 196 and 197 are totally OFF TOPIC...

The topic is: is-it-too-late-to-stop-the-donald-trump-machine

So is this one.....

So just chill out......

And it's not off topic.... Directly related to the shit Trump has been running on.......

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What the slurping Trump fanboys can't seem to grasp is that this type of ad is going to turn off more than 50% of the electorate immediately.

Sure, it plays well with know-nothing wingnuts with "never forget Benghazi" tattoos, but how do you think moderate women will react? Here's a hint: it won't be positively.

I think you're dead wrong. Trump is running as the anti-PC candidate. Someone had to have the guts to do it. He's showing how weak Hillary would be against Putin or ISIS and he's right. People know he's right.

Trump isn't interested in running your idea of a good old fashioned campaign. He's interested in telling it like it is and letting the chips fall. Hillary is too weak to run a country and Trump hasn't even started on her yet.

Cheers.

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The questions people should be asking themselves are things like,

What has motivated Donald to run, examine closely.

Will Hillary take off from where bill left things, murdering millions of innocent children?

Will she get caught receiving Cunnilingus in the Oval Office?

Well, you really know how to put a disgusting picture in somebody's mind.

Yeah, a picture of Donald's motivations.

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So lets look at Trumps alternative then, Hillary.

She is responsible for toppling Muammer Gadhafi, now Libya has ben destabilized and has become a hotbed for ISIS. She is one of the people responsible for the mess in the middle east, and the migrant invasion in Europe.

What is Trump saying? He wants to solve the Palestnian problem with diplomacy, normalise relations with Russia, destroy ISIS.

Sounds like a very smart and pragmatic policy.

Yet you are depicting him as a fascist.

Talk is cheap. I could get on a podium and tell people what they want to hear. If had billions of dollars to pump into my campaign, I could convince a lot of people - though I'd never be as good a sheister salesman as Trump. I don't lie either, so that counts me out. Trump has never accomplished anything outside of real estate deals and being a TV show personality. He's been caught in so many lies, it would take a thick book to list them. Everyone who doesn't praise him is liable to get called immature names. Every conversation he has (shown on video), he keeps interrupting (new word: 'intrumpting') the other person by repeating 'excuse me'. He's always on the defensive, because he has so many spins - some of which dig himself deeper holes. He's many things, but certainly not presidential.

from Lukecan's post above; "What is Trump saying? He wants to solve the Palestinian problem with diplomacy, normalise relations with Russia, destroy ISIS."

Yea, but vote for me! I want to solve world hunger, eliminate disease and smog, clean up the Pacific Ocean's Trash Vortex, start vegan colonies on mars, free breast implants on request, ......you see the pattern? Trump is simply reading a list of items that his bean counters tell him are most important to right wing voters. He would tell them he'd personally give each one a warm bubble bath scrub down if that would garner him some added votes. The man is the ultimate salesman, and the biggest item is: it's working!!! It's an indication of the gullability quotient of certain segments of the American populace.

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What the slurping Trump fanboys can't seem to grasp is that this type of ad is going to turn off more than 50% of the electorate immediately.

Sure, it plays well with know-nothing wingnuts with "never forget Benghazi" tattoos, but how do you think moderate women will react? Here's a hint: it won't be positively.

I think you're dead wrong. Trump is running as the anti-PC candidate. Someone had to have the guts to do it. He's showing how weak Hillary would be against Putin or ISIS and he's right. People know he's right.

Trump isn't interested in running your idea of a good old fashioned campaign. He's interested in telling it like it is and letting the chips fall. Hillary is too weak to run a country and Trump hasn't even started on her yet.

Cheers.

I am curious where this belief that Clinton would be "weak" comes from. If anything, she is arguably more aggressive than Bush was in the area of military force. There is absolutely no reason to believe she would ever hesitate to use military force if needed.

Do you just assume Trump would be even tougher because he talks tough about torture and bombing and how awesome the military under his command would be? Remember, Trump had the option to go to war but apparently the bone spur in his foot was so severe.....he cannot even remember which foot the bone spur occurred in. It is easy to send others to war......a bit harder to go yourself.

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So lets look at Trumps alternative then, Hillary.

She is responsible for toppling Muammer Gadhafi, now Libya has ben destabilized and has become a hotbed for ISIS. She is one of the people responsible for the mess in the middle east, and the migrant invasion in Europe.

What is Trump saying? He wants to solve the Palestnian problem with diplomacy, normalise relations with Russia, destroy ISIS.

Sounds like a very smart and pragmatic policy.

Yet you are depicting him as a fascist.

Talk is cheap. I could get on a podium and tell people what they want to hear. If had billions of dollars to pump into my campaign, I could convince a lot of people - though I'd never be as good a sheister salesman as Trump. I don't lie either, so that counts me out. Trump has never accomplished anything outside of real estate deals and being a TV show personality. He's been caught in so many lies, it would take a thick book to list them. Everyone who doesn't praise him is liable to get called immature names. Every conversation he has (shown on video), he keeps interrupting (new word: 'intrumpting') the other person by repeating 'excuse me'. He's always on the defensive, because he has so many spins - some of which dig himself deeper holes. He's many things, but certainly not presidential.

from Lukecan's post above; "What is Trump saying? He wants to solve the Palestinian problem with diplomacy, normalise relations with Russia, destroy ISIS."

Yea, but vote for me! I want to solve world hunger, eliminate disease and smog, clean up the Pacific Ocean's Trash Vortex, start vegan colonies on mars, free breast implants on request, ......you see the pattern? Trump is simply reading a list of items that his bean counters tell him are most important to right wing voters. He would tell them he'd personally give each one a warm bubble bath scrub down if that would garner him some added votes. The man is the ultimate salesman, and the biggest item is: it's working!!! It's an indication of the gullability quotient of certain segments of the American populace.

If had billions of dollars to pump into my campaign, I could convince a lot of people - though I'd never be as good a sheister salesman as Trump. I don't lie either, so that counts me out. Trump has never accomplished anything outside of real estate deals and being a TV show personality. He's been caught in so many lies, it would take a thick book to list them. Everyone who doesn't praise him is liable to get called immature names. --

You mean like calling someone "sheister" [sic]?

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What the slurping Trump fanboys can't seem to grasp is that this type of ad is going to turn off more than 50% of the electorate immediately.

Sure, it plays well with know-nothing wingnuts with "never forget Benghazi" tattoos, but how do you think moderate women will react? Here's a hint: it won't be positively.

I think you're dead wrong. Trump is running as the anti-PC candidate. Someone had to have the guts to do it. He's showing how weak Hillary would be against Putin or ISIS and he's right. People know he's right.

Trump isn't interested in running your idea of a good old fashioned campaign. He's interested in telling it like it is and letting the chips fall. Hillary is too weak to run a country and Trump hasn't even started on her yet.

Cheers.

I am curious where this belief that Clinton would be "weak" comes from. If anything, she is arguably more aggressive than Bush was in the area of military force. There is absolutely no reason to believe she would ever hesitate to use military force if needed.

Do you just assume Trump would be even tougher because he talks tough about torture and bombing and how awesome the military under his command would be? Remember, Trump had the option to go to war but apparently the bone spur in his foot was so severe.....he cannot even remember which foot the bone spur occurred in. It is easy to send others to war......a bit harder to go yourself.

So now it's about bone spurs, eh? IQ test is the second door on your left.

Cheers.

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What the slurping Trump fanboys can't seem to grasp is that this type of ad is going to turn off more than 50% of the electorate immediately.

Sure, it plays well with know-nothing wingnuts with "never forget Benghazi" tattoos, but how do you think moderate women will react? Here's a hint: it won't be positively.

I think you're dead wrong. Trump is running as the anti-PC candidate. Someone had to have the guts to do it. He's showing how weak Hillary would be against Putin or ISIS and he's right. People know he's right.

Trump isn't interested in running your idea of a good old fashioned campaign. He's interested in telling it like it is and letting the chips fall. Hillary is too weak to run a country and Trump hasn't even started on her yet.

Cheers.

I am curious where this belief that Clinton would be "weak" comes from. If anything, she is arguably more aggressive than Bush was in the area of military force. There is absolutely no reason to believe she would ever hesitate to use military force if needed.

Do you just assume Trump would be even tougher because he talks tough about torture and bombing and how awesome the military under his command would be? Remember, Trump had the option to go to war but apparently the bone spur in his foot was so severe.....he cannot even remember which foot the bone spur occurred in. It is easy to send others to war......a bit harder to go yourself.

So now it's about bone spurs, eh? IQ test is the second door on your left.

Cheers.

Ugh....I presented a very polite question in a very respectful way and this is how you respond. You did not even attempt to address anything I asked. Not surprising from a Trump supporter though.

And yes, someone dodging military service for a bullshit reason and then claiming how militaristic he is and threatening military force as if it is no big deal when others will be the ones fighting is a very real issue. Anyone who actually cares about our soldiers understands this. Not to mention how he slandered McCain for spending years in the Hanoi Hilton and claiming he is not a hero and that he prefers people who were not captured.

If you don't think this matters, clearly you are the one who needs a IQ test ....

For the GOP, a party that consistently claims they are the ones who truly support our soldiers, you have all sunk to a disgusting new level.......

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All empires crumble at some time. Perhaps it will soon be that time for the USA. If Trump gains the W.House, America's demise will be with whimpers, not with roars. It won't be because the US was defeated at war (America survived alright after withdrawing from VN). No, it may be from abysmal leadership from a hot-tempered, name-calling, flip-flopping liar. At the very least, it will put great strain on checks and balances, not to mention debilitating protests on a scale not seen since the anti-VN-war.

Look at the trouble Thailand went through to rid itself of Thaksin (Trump's fraternal twin). Thailand is still suffering repercussions 15 years later, and counting. Multiply that by 10,000 and you get an idea of the troubles Trump will bring to the USA, and the shambles he'll leave in his long wake.

The current leadership has left the US in a shambles. Unchecked illegal immigration with some states giving them driver's licenses and then allowing them to vote. Jobs being shipped to China and Mexico due to lousy trade deals. China and Mexico getting to export things to the US duty-free but charging import duties on US goods to name just one. GM wanted to sell Cadillacs in China so China required that they be built there to do it, yet Chinese shit floods the US duty free.

These are all lousy deals for the working class. This is a working class revolt and it's well past due.

Cheers.

"The current leadership has left the US in shambles," nonsense. Again. coffee1.gif

A favorite wingnut stance. The Obama Presidency is an outstanding success. America has never been stronger. The American economy is the best in the world.

Let's chuck all that progress that's been made since the Bush/Cheney disaster and let the Republicans bankrupt the country and start more wars. They've shown nothing, passed no legislation, have no leadership, but let's hand the reins of government back to them.

More guns. Take away women's rights. Kill the Muslims. Throw out the Mexicans. Give wingnuts another chance to destroy the country. No government is good government. Let a corrupt Mussolini wannabe lead us to the promise land.

No?

Working class revolt. clap2.gif

Choc de krap

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