THE England thread

[BangrakBob 4,172]

England win Euros after friendly in Berlin

[Jockstar 492]

England win Euros after friendly in Berlin

Sounds familiar

[NiwPix 405]

Love it how it is called a training match and not a friendly match

I put 0 weight on this game ( even if Germany would've won ). I didn't watch the game, but saw the highlights and statistics.

Just for arguments sake:

I don't think it was a strong German side as mentioned in an earlier post. For one, our Captain, Schweinsteiger, was out injured. Secondly and most importantly, it was a new defense. The only one from the World Cup winning squad ( that played regularly ) was Hummels. And Third, our "striker" Gomez. At most I believe he belongs on the bench and Mueller put up front and Goetze on the right wing ( who was out injured as well ).

I am not saying that the reserve players weren't good, I am just saying this is far from an ideal German line-up.

Also, I haven't seen any mention of the disallowed offside goal, that wasn't offside. The game may have ended a little different without a linesman mistake.

All that being said, England did play well....at least the part of the highlights I saw. However, I wouldn't put too much hopes and dreams into this game.

[Sparkles 2,839]

Anyone who could not see some positives for England were watching a different game ,maybe a replay of a past failure.

[alfieconn 2,524]

Always said that Hodgson would do a good job given time

In all positions we have very good young players now and a lot of pace ...Hart is fighting for his place now with Forster and Butland.

Hopefully Shaw comes back as he left off would like to see Stones fill out and partner Smalling at CB and right back is between Clynne and Walker with even Trippier in with shout.

Midfield looks very strong Ali ...Dier...Barkley...OX...Walcott...and plenty of strong running water carriers like Drinkwater Delph Mason Shelvey Henderson?

Strikers...Kane...Vardy..Wellbeck..Sterling...Sturridge...Rooney?

With loads of yongsters coming through who given the chance at club level could very well push on as some of the Spurs lads have done....

Good to see and credit should go to Hodgson as a lot of the old timers have finished and he has started to get a very good young squad together now.

Behave Mr Bias

You obviously didn't understand

[smokie36 8,024]

Speaking after the win Roy Hodgson commented, " It would be really helpful if that nice Mr Pochettino would sign an English centre half this summer."

[MrRed 1,300]

Always said that Hodgson would do a good job given time

In all positions we have very good young players now and a lot of pace ...Hart is fighting for his place now with Forster and Butland.

Hopefully Shaw comes back as he left off would like to see Stones fill out and partner Smalling at CB and right back is between Clynne and Walker with even Trippier in with shout.

Midfield looks very strong Ali ...Dier...Barkley...OX...Walcott...and plenty of strong running water carriers like Drinkwater Delph Mason Shelvey Henderson?

Strikers...Kane...Vardy..Wellbeck..Sterling...Sturridge...Rooney?

With loads of yongsters coming through who given the chance at club level could very well push on as some of the Spurs lads have done....

Good to see and credit should go to Hodgson as a lot of the old timers have finished and he has started to get a very good young squad together now.

Behave Mr Bias

You obviously didn't understand

Explain yourself then cryptic conn.

[mommysboy 3,937]

Love it how it is called a training match and not a friendly match

I put 0 weight on this game ( even if Germany would've won ). I didn't watch the game, but saw the highlights and statistics.

Just for arguments sake:

I don't think it was a strong German side as mentioned in an earlier post. For one, our Captain, Schweinsteiger, was out injured. Secondly and most importantly, it was a new defense. The only one from the World Cup winning squad ( that played regularly ) was Hummels. And Third, our "striker" Gomez. At most I believe he belongs on the bench and Mueller put up front and Goetze on the right wing ( who was out injured as well ).

I am not saying that the reserve players weren't good, I am just saying this is far from an ideal German line-up.

Also, I haven't seen any mention of the disallowed offside goal, that wasn't offside. The game may have ended a little different without a linesman mistake.

All that being said, England did play well....at least the part of the highlights I saw. However, I wouldn't put too much hopes and dreams into this game.

England are just plain awful in tournaments it has to be said.

This was by no means a German 'B' team. But it was surely a tactical error to play an inexperienced back line against such a strong attack. Low must have known Vardy would come on at some point.

Yes, it was a far from ideal line up, but that's because Germany appears to lack its usual strength in depth. I don't agree with the idea that Germany could have fielded much better, eg,Schweinsteiger is not in good club form anyway.

The disallowed goal seemed offside, but could just as easily been given.

I do think England made heavy work of what might have been a more comfortable win. When England came out of their shell you could see Germany were a little stunned.

Both teams need better defences that's for sure.

[mommysboy 3,937]

Hodgson says this is his finest moment.

A training match!

And as always, everyone in the kingdom are 100% sure the team will lift the next cup..........................................as always.

Well it was his best as an England manager; things not been so good in recent years.

Thr German manager looked really angry, wonder why? after all if it was only a training match....

I don't know one Englishman who thinks we will lift the cup, most of us just hoping for a decent showing.

[carmine 5,524]

Just watched the highlights. Keeper could have done better with the first German goal. Bad marking with the second. Nice first England goal. Cheeky great second goal then a powerful header.

I thought Dier stood off Toni Kroos too much for the first goal.

Great positives from the game but the central defense looked suspect and i don't think Cahill is really up to the job. John Stones and Mike Smalling for me.

[mrbojangles 4,881]

In all positions we have very good young players now and a lot of pace ...Hart is fighting for his place now with Forster and Butland.

looks like Butland is out of the Euro

[Chicog 14,497]

In all positions we have very good young players now and a lot of pace ...Hart is fighting for his place now with Forster and Butland.

looks like Butland is out of the Euro

Yep confirmed that he's fractured his ankle.

Hughes will be pleased.

[OJAS 2,354]

In all positions we have very good young players now and a lot of pace ...Hart is fighting for his place now with Forster and Butland.

looks like Butland is out of the Euro

Yep confirmed that he's fractured his ankle.

Hughes will be pleased.

Will the FA be compensating Stoke for their goalkeeping loss (which, after all, might arguably have a bearing on their push for Europe next season)? Or is it a case of "Tough sh*t, mate"?

With uncertainty over Hart's fitness as well, England may well end up being solely dependent on Forster for the Euros. The goalkeeping cupboard is looking increasingly worryingly bare....

[MrRed 1,300]

^Not at all...Ben Foster...Paul Heaton...Robert Green...Jordan Pickford plenty of decent keepers to choose from if needed in that order.

[Chicog 14,497]

Will the FA be compensating Stoke for their goalkeeping loss (which, after all, might arguably have a bearing on their push for Europe next season)? Or is it a case of "Tough sh*t, mate"?

I believe compensation is now the norm.