Democrat party to scrutinize charter draft carefully before deciding to accept it or not

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Democrat party to scrutinize Meechai's charter draft carefully before deciding to accept it or not



BANGKOK: -- The Democrat party will take some time to study the Constitution Drafting Committee’s final charter draft before making a decision whether to accept it or not, said deputy partly leader Ong-art Klampaibul on Tuesday.

He explained that the party would scrutinize the draft – both the main draft and the provisional chapter – in comparison with the original version to find out the amendments and to inform the public about the weak and strong points of the draft.

He said that the party would consider other related issues before it could decide whether to accept or reject the draft.

Mr Ong-art insisted that the voters should be well informed about the charter draft before they vote to accept or reject the draft in the referendum. The people, he said, should have the best constitution and not just any constitution.

The Democrat deputy leader also called on the National Council for Peace and Order to clearly specify which previous constitution would be chosen and put into force in case the CDC’s draft was voted down in the referendum.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/157385


-- Thai PBS 2016-03-30

[tbthailand]

what a dog and pony show by the Dems.

They were complicit in the coup, and now they pretend that they will "study" this new turd.

I guess they had better keep their study-groups to 4 or fewer people...

And before they make a statement on the newest revision of the turd, they should check out this...

Anti-referendum offences can lead to 10 years in jail.

Article 62 states “anyone who publishes text, images or sound, through either newspaper, radio, television, electronic media or other channels, that is either untruthful, harsh, offensive, rude, inciting or threatening, with the intention that voters will either not exercise their right to vote, or vote in a certain way, or not vote, will be considered as a person creating confusion so that the vote will not proceed properly.” The penalty is a jail term of up to 10 years and a fine of up to 200,000 baht.

And if that is not clear enough, then the Dems might want to consider this:

‘Attitude adjustment’ to be made as course

The Thai junta proposed a plan to make an attitude adjustment session into a special course for politicians while the junta leader said that politicians who do not understand the regime should not be politicians.

[chainarong]

One would assume that no political party would accept the draft in it's present form with the information that has been blabbed about by the CDC for so long , anything that includes non voted members or automatic appointments isn't democracy, bearing in mind the referendum will also be a vote of either confidence or no confidence in the Junta by the people , ego's could be dinted here.................................................

[Somtamnication]

Well, Democratic Party (an oxymoron if I ever heard one), accept it or get "invited" for a conversation in a green vehicle.

[greenchair]

what a dog and pony show by the Dems.

They were complicit in the coup, and now they pretend that they will "study" this new turd.

I guess they had better keep their study-groups to 4 or fewer people...

And before they make a statement on the newest revision of the turd, they should check out this...

Anti-referendum offences can lead to 10 years in jail.

Article 62 states anyone who publishes text, images or sound, through either newspaper, radio, television, electronic media or other channels, that is either untruthful, harsh, offensive, rude, inciting or threatening, with the intention that voters will either not exercise their right to vote, or vote in a certain way, or not vote, will be considered as a person creating confusion so that the vote will not proceed properly. The penalty is a jail term of up to 10 years and a fine of up to 200,000 baht.

And if that is not clear enough, then the Dems might want to consider this:

Attitude adjustment to be made as course

The Thai junta proposed a plan to make an attitude adjustment session into a special course for politicians while the junta leader said that politicians who do not understand the regime should not be politicians.

????

It is quite a read. Can't imagine the average thai grasping most of what it says or even having the ability to read half of it. When it passes the referendum (and it will ) there will be no going back for either party nor any of the other 77 parties. One thing it will alleviate, there will no longer be a need for any future coups as the army shall keep a firm check on all parties forever more.

[Eric Loh]

Why even bother Ahbisit? You and your party is part of the problem and the current woeful state.

[heybruce]

"He said that the party would consider other related issues before it could decide whether to accept or reject the draft."

The Dems need to see if this constitution will lead to their ultimate goal--running the nation even though they can't win an election.

[Denim]

Yawn. Just the usual poodles pretending to be important and relevant again.

[phoenixdoglover]

Is this the right time to say, "Som nom na"?

[Srikcir]

The Democrat party will take some time to study the Constitution Drafting Committee’s final charter draft before making a decision whether to accept it or not

The Democrats have already pointed out several areas of disagreement such as:

- the inadequacy of the MMA system,

- impeachment power by the Senate,

- appointment of military ex-officios in the Senate,

- unelected PM to replace an elected PM,

- restriction of reform by future elected governments,

- reduced state-subsidized education from 12 years to 9 years

- indirect election of senators from 20 professional groups

- the PM candidate list requirement

- one ballot system

But Democrats haven't yet decided to accept or not the Meechai draft? It would seem just with these few very fundamental disagreements (and probably more they will not publicize), they will not accept the draft. Are they in effect negotiating with the Junta for control of the next government?

[tbthailand]

"He said that the party would consider other related issues before it could decide whether to accept or reject the draft."

The Dems need to see if this constitution will lead to their ultimate goal--running the nation even though they can't win an election.

with this constitution, the Dems will neither win the election nor run the country.

but they should have known that when they joined up with this lot.

[Eric Loh]

"He said that the party would consider other related issues before it could decide whether to accept or reject the draft."

The Dems need to see if this constitution will lead to their ultimate goal--running the nation even though they can't win an election.

with this constitution, the Dems will neither win the election nor run the country.

but they should have known that when they joined up with this lot.

The only reason I can think of why the Dem Party is procrastinating on the charter is they actually may end up being the government again. Not by winning the election but by the situation created by the charter and a repeat of 2008.

[chainarong]

what a dog and pony show by the Dems.

They were complicit in the coup, and now they pretend that they will "study" this new turd.

I guess they had better keep their study-groups to 4 or fewer people...

And before they make a statement on the newest revision of the turd, they should check out this...

Anti-referendum offences can lead to 10 years in jail.

Article 62 states anyone who publishes text, images or sound, through either newspaper, radio, television, electronic media or other channels, that is either untruthful, harsh, offensive, rude, inciting or threatening, with the intention that voters will either not exercise their right to vote, or vote in a certain way, or not vote, will be considered as a person creating confusion so that the vote will not proceed properly. The penalty is a jail term of up to 10 years and a fine of up to 200,000 baht.

And if that is not clear enough, then the Dems might want to consider this:

Attitude adjustment to be made as course

The Thai junta proposed a plan to make an attitude adjustment session into a special course for politicians while the junta leader said that politicians who do not understand the regime should not be politicians.

????

It is quite a read. Can't imagine the average thai grasping most of what it says or even having the ability to read half of it. When it passes the referendum (and it will ) there will be no going back for either party nor any of the other 77 parties. One thing it will alleviate, there will no longer be a need for any future coups as the army shall keep a firm check on all parties forever more.

Yeah, Most will possibly vote on whether they like or dislike the Junta and couldn't give a toss about the charter.

[greenchair]

what a dog and pony show by the Dems.

They were complicit in the coup, and now they pretend that they will "study" this new turd.

I guess they had better keep their study-groups to 4 or fewer people...

And before they make a statement on the newest revision of the turd, they should check out this...

Anti-referendum offences can lead to 10 years in jail.

Article 62 states anyone who publishes text, images or sound, through either newspaper, radio, television, electronic media or other channels, that is either untruthful, harsh, offensive, rude, inciting or threatening, with the intention that voters will either not exercise their right to vote, or vote in a certain way, or not vote, will be considered as a person creating confusion so that the vote will not proceed properly. The penalty is a jail term of up to 10 years and a fine of up to 200,000 baht.

And if that is not clear enough, then the Dems might want to consider this:

Attitude adjustment to be made as course

The Thai junta proposed a plan to make an attitude adjustment session into a special course for politicians while the junta leader said that politicians who do not understand the regime should not be politicians.

????

It is quite a read. Can't imagine the average thai grasping most of what it says or even having the ability to read half of it. When it passes the referendum (and it will ) there will be no going back for either party nor any of the other 77 parties. One thing it will alleviate, there will no longer be a need for any future coups as the army shall keep a firm check on all parties forever more.

Yeah, Most will possibly vote on whether they like or dislike the Junta and couldn't give a toss about the charter.

That's right.

[JAG]

what a dog and pony show by the Dems.

They were complicit in the coup, and now they pretend that they will "study" this new turd.

I guess they had better keep their study-groups to 4 or fewer people...

And before they make a statement on the newest revision of the turd, they should check out this...

Anti-referendum offences can lead to 10 years in jail.

Article 62 states anyone who publishes text, images or sound, through either newspaper, radio, television, electronic media or other channels, that is either untruthful, harsh, offensive, rude, inciting or threatening, with the intention that voters will either not exercise their right to vote, or vote in a certain way, or not vote, will be considered as a person creating confusion so that the vote will not proceed properly. The penalty is a jail term of up to 10 years and a fine of up to 200,000 baht.

And if that is not clear enough, then the Dems might want to consider this:

Attitude adjustment to be made as course

The Thai junta proposed a plan to make an attitude adjustment session into a special course for politicians while the junta leader said that politicians who do not understand the regime should not be politicians.

????

It is quite a read. Can't imagine the average thai grasping most of what it says or even having the ability to read half of it. When it passes the referendum (and it will ) there will be no going back for either party nor any of the other 77 parties. One thing it will alleviate, there will no longer be a need for any future coups as the army shall keep a firm check on all parties forever more.

Yeah, Most will possibly vote on whether they like or dislike the Junta and couldn't give a toss about the charter.

97.85% approval then?