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Number of foreign tourists during Songkran festival marks 20.7% increase

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Not in Chiang Mai apparently.

It was one of the least crowded Songkrans I've seen in Chiang Mai since I moved here.

Yes, but relatively a lot of tourists around. I really noticed it during the festival. Also, with more places to go now in Chiang Mai, that means less density at the 'old' venues like in front of Central Kad Suan Kaew or even the moat. (And there were some questions about the moat water supply and water clarity.)

It's a little funny how tourist arrival figures always draw such swift ridicule based on absolutely nothing but one's own preconceptions. The government knows *exactly* how many tourists arrive; they all fill in the arrival/departure card which goes into the immigration database.

This is one of the most reliable statistics, more so than just about anything else. For example if you asked the government how many people (Thais and foreigners) there are in total in any city then they can't tell you an exact number. Because when someone moves to Chiang Mai from some other place then there's no record of that. But tourist arrivals are an easy one.

They even know reasonably well where tourists go after landing in BKK: hotels provide guest's passport numbers and Arrival/Departure card numbers daily.

And now for the remaining alu-mad-hatters who just don't believe the government for any reason: please just check Flightradar24.com or FlightStats.com or any other aviation site of your choice. Those planes you see? They have people in them. And there are a LOT more flights than last year, especially also directly into Chiang Mai, etc.

crazy.gif Sweet Jesus it's embarrassing sometimes on this forum.

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"A large number of tourists, Thai and foreign, were found to have spent their holiday in Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Khon Kaen and Bangkok. Most traveled in a short distance in the provinces.

Other favorite tourist destinations during Songkran festival included Phuket and Krabi on the shores of the Andaman Sea and Koh Samui island in the Gulf of Thailand."
So they basically went EVERYWHERE...

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"A large number of tourists, Thai and foreign, were found to have spent their holiday in Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Khon Kaen and Bangkok. Most traveled in a short distance in the provinces.

Other favorite tourist destinations during Songkran festival included Phuket and Krabi on the shores of the Andaman Sea and Koh Samui island in the Gulf of Thailand."
So they basically went EVERYWHERE...

Not everywhere. Bueng Kan Province for example didn't get too many it seems.

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I think the north was quite busy and more than last year.

Maybe some dispersion of crowds due to the increase of venues...

But what they forgot to mention is the 50% drop after Songkhran compared to last year...

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Girlfriend who is a hotel receptionist confirms numbers down.

Observers including brother in Chiang Mai .

Down alot.

I can come to no other conclusion that the figures ( unless your a magic bean buyer type) can be believed.

Even including the Chinese.

It's as trustworthy and as creditable as their 99% polls.

Serious intelligent people don't digest these figures

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That would be the reason why hotel rates are about 20% below their historical average and why most restaurants appear to be desperate for custom?

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Not in Chiang Mai apparently.

It was one of the least crowded Songkrans I've seen in Chiang Mai since I moved here.

Yes, but relatively a lot of tourists around. I really noticed it during the festival. Also, with more places to go now in Chiang Mai, that means less density at the 'old' venues like in front of Central Kad Suan Kaew or even the moat. (And there were some questions about the moat water supply and water clarity.)

It's a little funny how tourist arrival figures always draw such swift ridicule based on absolutely nothing but one's own preconceptions. The government knows *exactly* how many tourists arrive; they all fill in the arrival/departure card which goes into the immigration database.

This is one of the most reliable statistics, more so than just about anything else. For example if you asked the government how many people (Thais and foreigners) there are in total in any city then they can't tell you an exact number. Because when someone moves to Chiang Mai from some other place then there's no record of that. But tourist arrivals are an easy one.

They even know reasonably well where tourists go after landing in BKK: hotels provide guest's passport numbers and Arrival/Departure card numbers daily.

And now for the remaining alu-mad-hatters who just don't believe the government for any reason: please just check Flightradar24.com or FlightStats.com or any other aviation site of your choice. Those planes you see? They have people in them. And there are a LOT more flights than last year, especially also directly into Chiang Mai, etc.

crazy.gif Sweet Jesus it's embarrassing sometimes on this forum.

The real question though is how much those arrivals are spending, are they keeping the industry ticking over, hotels doing well, restaurants profitable, employment full...or is this a different kind of tourism, to which the industry has not yet adapted ?

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We all know, where these numbers come from: it starts with an a and ends with a double s!

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Not in Chiang Mai apparently.

It was one of the least crowded Songkrans I've seen in Chiang Mai since I moved here.

Same in Koh Samui

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Off course it was

We never doubts the great TAT when it come to this kind of reporting....

Would be interesting to see how they managed to get to the .7% figure.

well done a quick too, since yesterday was the first day back at work after Songkran.

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My wife's nephew, a hotel manager in Puke-it, complained about a giant decrease in revenue for his hotel group. He said that Puke-it was loaded with Chinese.

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My wife's nephew, a hotel manager in Puke-it, complained about a giant decrease in revenue for his hotel group. He said that Puke-it was loaded with Chinese.

A friend of mine went to Phuket over songkran and said the same thing, bus load after bus load of Chinese arriving.

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My wife's nephew, a hotel manager in Puke-it, complained about a giant decrease in revenue for his hotel group. He said that Puke-it was loaded with Chinese.

A friend of mine went to Phuket over songkran and said the same thing, bus load after bus load of Chinese arriving.

I thought that the Chinese were the quality tourists that the govt. wanted.. taking over the slack from the declining Farang tourist arrivals...cheesy.gifcheesy.gif

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I have basically been hunkered down in my condo complex the past nine days to escape

the mayhem. I just went out to watch the F1 qualifying and race, (and yes I was sprayed down)

In short I have spent far less than I normally would . Do I count. whistling.gif

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