rooster59 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 New personal details form arrives at Phuket ImmigrationTanyaluk SakootThe new form marks criminal liability for providing false information. Photo: Tanyaluk SakootPHUKET: A General at the Immigration Bureau has warned that failure to provide personal details on a new form handed out the Phuket Immigration Office this week will have consequences for foreigners submitting applications in Phuket.Maj Gen Chachaval Vachirapaneegul, Deputy Commissioner of the Immigration Bureau’s crime suppression unit, told The Phuket News on Wednesday (May 18) that new form, titled “Foreign National Information Form” is mandatory.The form asks for foreigners to provide details of their social media accounts, Facebook, Line and email addresses, details of vehicles owned by the foreigner completing the application, and bank account details, among other information, including places frequented by the foreigner.The top and the bottom of the three-page form features the warning: “Providing false information to an officer, shall be punished under the Penal Code.”The form applies to nearly every type of application a foreigner can submit to Immigration. The header itself states (verbatim): “This form shall be used for making record of information of every alien entering and staying in the Kingdom of Thailand and shall be submit with Notification of residences for Aliens (section 37, 38 of Immigration Act, BE, 2522), or 90-days notification, or Extension of Stays (all purposes), or Re-entry Permits, or in all cases involving alien labors.”Gen Chachaval made plain his position on the use of the new form: “If a foreigner doesn’t want to fill in their information by themselves, they will be questioned for our records anyway. If they don’t fill in the form, we will suspect their reason.However, he did not clarify whether a foreigner declining to provide all the information asked for would constitute basis for rejecting the foreigner’s application.Gen Chachaval did confirm that providing details of social media accounts was optional, as stated on the form, but said that all other sections on the form were “required”.“We will not force people to provide their social media details,” he said.The form started being handed out at Phuket Immigration on Monday, one day after the order for Phuket Immigration Superintendent Col Sunchai Chokkajaykij to be transferred was published in the Royal Gazette. Col Sunchai declined to reveal to The Phuket News where he has been transferred to.Col Kantawat Pongsatanbordee, Chief of Immigration Bureau’s Information Technology Center in Bangkok, last Sunday was named as the incoming Phuket Immigration Chief, with the Royal Gazette stipulating he was to formally take office on Thursday (May 19).Full story: http://www.thephuketnews.com/new-personal-details-form-arrives-at-phuket-immigration-57510.php#IiP7IggBzwOlTqth.97 -- Phuket News 2016-05-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namatjira Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Punished under the penal code .... What's that going to be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxpwzrd Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 All one needs to do is examine the world's history to see where this is going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Asking for details like Bank Accounts and other Private details is an infringement of the Privacy laws as written in the Court of La Haye and many other instances to protect the individual for misbehavior. This is showing the TRUE face of a country ruled by a Junta which has totally no power anymore.Thailand is going the wrong path with their rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianc66 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 It would be good to have a readable image of this form, please Thaivisa or anybody visiting Phuket immigration. To me this seems perverse and simply arse about face to suppress crime find those who do not register with immigration, a number that will likely increase with the introduction of this form. BTW dear General can you show us the secure storage for this information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 bank account - they have already social media - optional Phone number - they have already email - they have already vehicle - they should have already or is easily obtained social habits places frequented - changes weekly so is basically nonsense conclusion - hogwash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadGeordie Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 BTW dear General can you show us the secure storage for this information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 This is bs and will do nothing to reduce crime perpetrated by foreigners. Think i need to open a bank account and put 100 baht in it. This will just serve to reduce the number of expats living here and could impact investment. Thailand prefers tourists . Give us ur money and piss off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 This is a very worrying esculation. I'll give then email account names, bank account details, even my car details - they have all that already. I don't have facebook or line. Next they will be demanding passwords - I'll be leaving Thailand then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laolover88 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Penal Code Chapter 2 § 367 Any person who is required by a public officer to inform his name or address in the interest of the legal enforcement and refuses to so inform or maliciously gives false name or address shall be liable to a fine not exceeding one hundred baht. No mention of other "Personal Information" Pretty Stiff Penalty Penal Code worth a read if you enjoy amusement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 So the ugly whale resurfaces at Phuket shores. Hope it takes long for this stupidity/wastepaper production to reach upcountry EDIT: deleted reference to an (older) PDF version of the form. Looks like it has been edited/revised in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Penal Code Chapter 2 § 367 Any person who is required by a public officer to inform his name or address in the interest of the legal enforcement and refuses to so inform or maliciously gives false name or address shall be liable to a fine not exceeding one hundred baht. No mention of other "Personal Information" Pretty Stiff Penalty Penal Code worth a read if you enjoy amusement! One of the aspects of Thai ' law ' is how it's interpreted and i don't mean in a court but by individual police and immigration officers, civil servants etc. who can make it up as they go along. Look how the simple act of pressing the LIKE icon on social media was interpreted to suit official needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith101 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I don't see a penal code number on the form so it begs the question is there actually any penalty under the immigration laws that cover this or is it just a scare tactic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadGeordie Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 "This form shall be used for making record of every alien entering and staying in the Kingdom of Thailand (sic)." So this form will have to be completed by everyone arriving in Thailand, in addition to a TM6? "Submitted with Notification of residences for aliens." Is that in addition to a TM30? ""90-days notification." In addition to a TM47, and I assume, added to the online reporting pro-forma. "Extensions of stay etc. etc." I cannot face giving any more examples. I feel I have demonstrated the lunacy of this ill-conceived form. "Gen Chachaval said the new information form was “necessary”. “In the past, immigration lacked information about foreign nationals living in Thailand when problems happened. This updated information will help is catch foreigners faster,” he said. “The information is will be linked our data system and will not be revealed or given to others (sic). The information collected will be kept private, but will be used for national security purposes”, he said. Read more at http://www.thephuketnews.com/new-personal-details-form-arrives-at-phuket-immigration-57510.php#ySYZluOBscRSMFYl.99 Oh please put stop, I cannot take anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 It would be good to have a readable image of this form, please Thaivisa or anybody visiting Phuket immigration. To me this seems perverse and simply arse about face to suppress crime find those who do not register with immigration, a number that will likely increase with the introduction of this form. BTW dear General can you show us the secure storage for this information? here you go . Foreign National Information.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbear Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 social habits places frequented = Your Mums house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 social habits places frequented = Your Mums house Clause 2.4 is optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffy Frobisher Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 xen·o·pho·bi·a [zen-uh-foh-bee-uh, zee-nuh-] noun an unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners or strangers or of that which is foreign or strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkapi Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 After reading it, I just think it is a waste of time. It is only potentially nefarious if there is a plan in place at some future time to round us up for extermination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianc66 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Thanks for the PDF. Most of this information is already collected, so a waste of everybodies time. Also very badly designed try writing any province longer than Surin in the province field, and I really don't know how I can fit Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor in the mothers name field. Foreign National Information Modified.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 now i will have to go to various sois and get the name of every "soapy" massage parlour. lol , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prestburypark Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Thanks for the PDF. Most of this information is already collected, so a waste of everybodies time. Also very badly designed try writing any province longer than Surin in the province field, and I really don't know how I can fit Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor in the mothers name field. My God, you must be my long lost brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnatong Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I have a problem understanding the purpose of this form. Most of the information asked is already a matter of record in the case of those here on extensions of stay. Asking about the names of my long deceased parents is pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegee Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 "This form shall be used for making record of every alien entering and staying in the Kingdom of Thailand (sic)." So this form will have to be completed by everyone arriving in Thailand, in addition to a TM6? "Submitted with Notification of residences for aliens." Is that in addition to a TM30? ""90-days notification." In addition to a TM47, and I assume, added to the online reporting pro-forma. "Extensions of stay etc. etc." I cannot face giving any more examples. I feel I have demonstrated the lunacy of this ill-conceived form. "Gen Chachaval said the new information form was “necessary”. “In the past, immigration lacked information about foreign nationals living in Thailand when problems happened. This updated information will help is catch foreigners faster,” he said. “The information is will be linked our data system and will not be revealed or given to others (sic). The information collected will be kept private, but will be used for national security purposes”, he said. Read more at http://www.thephuketnews.com/new-personal-details-form-arrives-at-phuket-immigration-57510.php#ySYZluOBscRSMFYl.99 Oh please put stop, I cannot take anymore. Looking at it like that, eventually this silly form might serve as some kind of precursor to unifying all their information. We could live in hope. Also hoping when they say "kept private" they don't mean by handing it all to some IT cowboy to put on the internet where he doesn't think anyone will notice it. This is the life, eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommers Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Welcome to 1984. This is a most naive document that will do absolutely nothing to assist the authorities. I will not put in the names of my dead parents, only Mummy and Daddy. And in the bank account section I will use one of my accounts in another country as it does not stipulate it must be a local bank. And as for frequently visited places my local 7-11 and the noodle shop are all they will get. None of it is inaccurate, so what can they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpolar Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Older chaps: dont write your parents maiden name or address back home.. all these "questions" are actually social engineering methods to gain access to your online accounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felt 35 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 ah soon full democrazy here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Why only Phuket? What is the percentage of foreigners arriving at Phuket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I have a problem understanding the purpose of this form. Most of the information asked is already a matter of record in the case of those here on extensions of stay. Asking about the names of my long deceased parents is pathetic If my Mum was still alive she would be 112 and if my Gad was still alive he would be 127 years old. He was born in the 19th century. Do they really need to know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Thanks for the PDF. Most of this information is already collected, so a waste of everybodies time. Also very badly designed try writing any province longer than Surin in the province field, and I really don't know how I can fit Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor in the mothers name field. I typed my province (Chonburi) into all fields marked province. Not an issue. As to the parents name. They are not asking for middle names so for most people there is sufficient space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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