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So many experts. The truth is either way is a leap in the dark. My own opinion - I don't go with the Conspiracy Theory, I just see a lot of first class, second rate, men (and women) bumbling about. I elect/pay professionals to sort out these problems, not bumbling, gifted, amateurs. Amateurs, by the way, don't get paid a bloody fortune for f--- ing things up, they do it Ex Gratuite. Then they come back to me and ask me my opinion? What a cheek! Like, I have the time, or the training, or the knowledge, to sort out this problem for them. I am basically very peed off I even have to face this question. Anyway, it's all very ill-timed and opportunistic, neither side has a clear view of where they want to go, all acting in a reactive manner to events as they unfold. I just hope I live another 10 years, to see how it all turns out. And that's the minimum time-frame you're looking at. At the end of the day, I suppose people will just vote for what they think is good for them in the short term. That's why we have politicians - strategic thinkers (555).

So many experts. The truth is... it's about self determination. Autonomy is a basic tenet of self awareness and society. EU is not that!

That's why we have politicians... strategic thinkers is a plea to surrender reason. There's not a single example in recent history where "strategic thinking" has been anything less then corporate or socialist agenda.

Sorry your pissed off you have to face this issue. The people in Plato's Cave were also pissed off to face their issue when they learned it's all shadows on the wall.

Hope we see you here in 2027

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Hilarious, coming from an American who doesn't even live in Thailand let alone the UK!

EU is a socialist death trap. If the UK is going to crap the bed have some dignity ole gal, do it on your own.

American retired in Thailand&UK

Whatever are you talking about? Having all but elected Donald Trump as your president I'd have thought you might want to put your own house in order before telling the UK what to do!

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chiang mai, on 03 Jun 2016 - 17:38, said:chiang mai, on 03 Jun 2016 - 17:38, said:
arjunadawn, on 03 Jun 2016 - 17:23, said:arjunadawn, on 03 Jun 2016 - 17:23, said:
chiang mai, on 03 Jun 2016 - 06:12, said:chiang mai, on 03 Jun 2016 - 06:12, said:
NeverSure, on 03 Jun 2016 - 03:51, said:NeverSure, on 03 Jun 2016 - 03:51, said:

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Hilarious, coming from an American who doesn't even live in Thailand let alone the UK!

EU is a socialist death trap. If the UK is going to crap the bed have some dignity ole gal, do it on your own.

American retired in Thailand&UK

Whatever are you talking about? Having all but elected Donald Trump as your president I'd have thought you might want to put your own house in order before telling the UK what to do!

Have you received your polling card, chiang mai?

If not, you're just as much an observer as NeverSure and arjunadawn.

My wife and I are voting leave on your behalf.

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chiang mai, on 03 Jun 2016 - 17:38, said:chiang mai, on 03 Jun 2016 - 17:38, said:

Whatever are you talking about? Having all but elected Donald Trump as your president I'd have thought you might want to put your own house in order before telling the UK what to do!

Have you received your polling card, chiang mai?

If not, you're just as much an observer as NeverSure and arjunadawn.

My wife and I are voting leave on your behalf.

Because I care more about the UK community as a whole and not just about myself, I have voted accordingly. wink.png

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Because I care more about the UK community as a whole and not just about myself, I have voted accordingly. wink.png

Don't Thai me, chiang mai. If you're not resident in the UK then you are unable to vote. Notwithstanding, you haven't answered the question.

I reckon your BS me and I'm quite sure that I'm correct in my understanding. You're an observer on this one, my friend.

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Because I care more about the UK community as a whole and not just about myself, I have voted accordingly. wink.png

Don't Thai me, chiang mai. If you're not resident in the UK then you are unable to vote. Notwithstanding, you haven't answered the question.

I reckon your BS me and I'm quite sure that I'm correct in my understanding. You're an observer on this one, my friend.

It's not nice to accuse someone of telling porkies wooloo., not unless you're 100% certain of your facts, which you are not, bad man!

"If you are a UK citizen living abroad, you can apply to be an overseas voter. You must have been registered to vote in the UK in the last 15 years and be eligible to vote in UK Parliamentary general elections and European Parliamentary elections".

http://www.aboutmyvote.co.uk/register-to-vote/british-citizens-living-abroad

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" Yes, the EU can be made more democratic " well I wouldn't be holding my breath for that onelaugh.png

the only ones with a bright future will be the politicians and bureaucrats that will go on collecting their obscene salaries year after year as the rest of the real world economy sinks further and further into depression

I very much doubt the UK will prosper within the EU because I doubt whether the EU itself will prosper.look at Greece.

What's it got to offer for God's sake?

The EU has been prosperous for the last 10 years , or so compared to the down turn in the global economy. Without the EU, a number of countries, mostly ex Eastern Block ones, would not have a prospering economy like today. As far as the UK goes, where do the UK exports mostly go to? As far as the London Financial Centre is concerned, just imagine how much it will shrink without the EU. I do know that most of the readers will disagree, but I, and I am an economist, believe that the UK would be better off if it not only stays in the EU but joins the EURO, in spite of the Greek disaster, which albeit, has not been dealt with properly.

I really do believe it will be a disaster for the UK to leave the EU. Apart from the financial and social drawbacks, the nearly certain result will be the succession of Scotland, which is very keen on staying in the EU. Even Wales may follow thereafter. What a disaster that would be!

How as the EU been prosperous when it has one of the lowest economic growths on the planet?

This is the World Bank data for economic growth by country - the first country that is close to one I would want to be part of the labour force is Ireland at number 46. Do you want Europe to mirror the likes of Turkmenistan, Chad or Rwanda? Stable and steady is my preferred option.

With all due respect, I would suggest that you are referring to the incorrect chart in support of your conclusion. You would be much better served by looking

at the per capita GDP rankings, and not at the individual country's ranking. Why? Because total nominal GDP is influenced by a variety of inputs and one is not comparing apples with apples. Thus, in the chart you have cited, China and India, with GDP growth in the period of 7.3% each, ranks them at numbers 13 and

14 respectively. However, if you look at their "per capita" GDP rankings, it tells a whole new story, actually putting them at numbers 77 and 138 respectively, partly because of their huge populations.

GDP per capita does not show a "standard of living" comparison, although it is somewhat of a good guide. You might, for example, therefore, look at Norway (non-EU), Switzerland (non-EU) and Denmark (EU) for "slow and steady" with high GDP per capita rankings. Respectively, and interestingly, the are ranked numbers

2, 4 and 6 on a per capita GDP ranking, according to the World Bank (2014).

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Because I care more about the UK community as a whole and not just about myself, I have voted accordingly. wink.png

Don't Thai me, chiang mai. If you're not resident in the UK then you are unable to vote. Notwithstanding, you haven't answered the question.

I reckon your BS me and I'm quite sure that I'm correct in my understanding. You're an observer on this one, my friend.

I think you will find that if you have been out of the UK for less than 15 years you can vote thumbsup.gif

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Because I care more about the UK community as a whole and not just about myself, I have voted accordingly. wink.png

Don't Thai me, chiang mai. If you're not resident in the UK then you are unable to vote. Notwithstanding, you haven't answered the question.

I reckon your BS me and I'm quite sure that I'm correct in my understanding. You're an observer on this one, my friend.

It's not nice to accuse someone of telling porkies wooloo., not unless you're 100% certain of your facts, which you are not, bad man!

"If you are a UK citizen living abroad, you can apply to be an overseas voter. You must have been registered to vote in the UK in the last 15 years and be eligible to vote in UK Parliamentary general elections and European Parliamentary elections".

http://www.aboutmyvote.co.uk/register-to-vote/british-citizens-living-abroad

Next!

I'm well aware of the rules, chiang mai, but also quite certain that you'll twist and turn to suit your needs.

Personally, I have my own opinions.

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I'm well aware of the rules, chiang mai, but also quite certain that you'll twist and turn to suit your needs.

Personally, I have my own opinions.

You're well aware of the rules now you mean!

As for your opinions: most people have them, I prefer facts that can be confirmed as such and are supportable, most here prefer to ignore such things or aren't equipped to understand them.

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I'm well aware of the rules, chiang mai, but also quite certain that you'll twist and turn to suit your needs.

Personally, I have my own opinions.

You're well aware of the rules now you mean!

You can't kid a kidder, chiang mai. You've not got the brain power.

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Hilarious, coming from an American who doesn't even live in Thailand let alone the UK!

EU is a socialist death trap. If the UK is going to crap the bed have some dignity ole gal, do it on your own.

American retired in Thailand&UK

Whatever are you talking about? Having all but elected Donald Trump as your president I'd have thought you might want to put your own house in order before telling the UK what to do!

Sorry, the Brexit is most definitely related to Americans desperately searching to reject the same Agenda UK contemplates. You link the two, but erroneously.

Americans are drawn to the Brexit as a referendum of their own possibilities. The only people telling the UK what to do are EU sycophants, Obama included. As goes the UK goes much more!

*The fallacy by association is spittle. People have no voice because... someone named Trump exists. No wonder they world's such a cesspool

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Us Brits haven't got the bottle to vote leave. Whereas the Americans are all out for The Donald, something a bit more extreme than the norm.

We haven't got the mettle in the UK. Come on, we voted in Dodgy Dave at the last election. We're a nation of limp-wristed liberals, but will moan to high heaven for the next four years regardless.

The polls are turning, though. Ever so slightly. Dodgy Dave was all over the place on the live Sky debate last night and was more than slightly embarrassed.

May be there is hope yet.

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