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Phuket condo owners warned 'holiday rentals' less than 30 days risks fines, jail time


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As a matter of principle, I cannot support laws that reduce property rights.

They should have made rentals inconvenient by registration, tax collection, etc. but banning private short term rentals is not compatible with ownership.

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Fact of life in Phuket. Evidently someone's missing their cut. It won't be enforced, can't be. BIB sit all day long in the cop shop and couldn't care less about real crime what do you think this one rates? -10 on a +10 scale...555

The more that gets exposed the worse Phuket looks.

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As someone who is in a long term rental I support this. The residents where I live have to put up with transient people who having adopted the 'but I'm on holiday so it doesn't matter' mode show little consideration for others.

Drunks in the pool at 4 am are a pain in the backside- they can sleep in all day, we live 'normal lives. Screaming kids running around the pool all day can get on the nerves as well. One badly behaved child can hold an entire complex hostage

People initially bought the condos where I live on the premise that they would be for residents, not transients. Most have changed hands now, with those purchasing them as investment and income opportunities. This is what the Gov't is clamping down on and I see nothing wrong with it.

Some people will regard me as a misery guts for posting the above but hotels are there for a reason. This is my HOME not a holiday, why should I have it disrupted by people who would not behave the same way when they are HOME.

Its a factor people forget when they start bellyaching and all they can come up with 'well, if you don't like it...............'.

"As someone who is in a long term rental I support this. The residents where I live have to put up with transient people who having adopted the 'but I'm on holiday so it doesn't matter' mode show little consideration for others."

I agree. I own my condo and most all of both Thai and foreign long term renters & owners are considerate and well-mannered, but every year during the high season there are a few short-term renters whose behavior is a pain in the derriere for everyone else. If they stayed in a decent hotel they'd be better monitored but here they seem to think they're free to act anyway they like.

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...may as well just give up all your money etc when you arrive.....

...that is the only reason why you are even allowed in this country.....

...human rights.....long way to go.....

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As someone who is in a long term rental I support this. The residents where I live have to put up with transient people who having adopted the 'but I'm on holiday so it doesn't matter' mode show little consideration for others.

Drunks in the pool at 4 am are a pain in the backside- they can sleep in all day, we live 'normal lives. Screaming kids running around the pool all day can get on the nerves as well. One badly behaved child can hold an entire complex hostage

People initially bought the condos where I live on the premise that they would be for residents, not transients. Most have changed hands now, with those purchasing them as investment and income opportunities. This is what the Gov't is clamping down on and I see nothing wrong with it.

Some people will regard me as a misery guts for posting the above but hotels are there for a reason. This is my HOME not a holiday, why should I have it disrupted by people who would not behave the same way when they are HOME.

Its a factor people forget when they start bellyaching and all they can come up with 'well, if you don't like it...............'.

The problems you mention have nothing to do with shirt term let's. Those problems occur regardless. Don't try to solve problem A with solution B that is a surface fix that is not relevant to the core problem.

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As a matter of principle, I cannot support laws that reduce property rights.

They should have made rentals inconvenient by registration, tax collection, etc. but banning private short term rentals is not compatible with ownership.

The laws exist and existed when the units were acquired or constructed. You can't reduce a "right" that never existed.

Property rights have limits. You can't operate as a hotel or conduct a retail business or raise pigs etc in a condo just because you own a unit.

And when it comes to property rights, what about the rights of the people who bought their units or signed long term rental agreements? There was an explicit or implied assumption that they would be living in a residential building not an unregulated brothel.

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I support this and as another poster says above the nightly rental is a hassle for people who are in for the long haul. I would like to know what the definition and/or difference between condo and apartment is in Phuket? Is there any difference? Here where we live and have rented for many years its called apartment. They range in size from 25m2 - 50m2. The owners started 3-4 years ago to convert som of the apartments on the ground floor to hotel rooms but now about 30 of 60 apartments are made for "short time" and make the place unlivable especially in the high season. 90% of longstayers are gone, but but the crazy thing which the owners should see themselves and probably do but dont want to admit... the hotel rooms are also very seldom occupied unless Chines groups or Thai tourist comes for a special weekend occasion, or in high season.

Anyway It also seems the owners income are mostly gone because from having a superior green well maintained garden, swimmingpool and well maintained building its should be clear to see for anyone with a trained eye that the place its slowly going down and it seems the only money spent on maintenance now is on the hotel rooms. TAT and the owners here can flirt all they want to the Asian marked but the owners here we stay will never ever make up a fixed monthly rental income from 60 apartments which until a few years ago always was occupied by long time renters and it was usual to have to wait 6 months on that list before a apartment was available.

I know that the sand in the hourglass is running out for me and when I hate to have to change my life because of others neglect, I have to or I will feel as living in an Airport. The funny thing, my Thai wife is more eager to move than me.

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As someone who is in a long term rental I support this. The residents where I live have to put up with transient people who having adopted the 'but I'm on holiday so it doesn't matter' mode show little consideration for others.

Drunks in the pool at 4 am are a pain in the backside- they can sleep in all day, we live 'normal lives. Screaming kids running around the pool all day can get on the nerves as well. One badly behaved child can hold an entire complex hostage

People initially bought the condos where I live on the premise that they would be for residents, not transients. Most have changed hands now, with those purchasing them as investment and income opportunities. This is what the Gov't is clamping down on and I see nothing wrong with it.

Some people will regard me as a misery guts for posting the above but hotels are there for a reason. This is my HOME not a holiday, why should I have it disrupted by people who would not behave the same way when they are HOME.

Its a factor people forget when they start bellyaching and all they can come up with 'well, if you don't like it...............'.

I don't understand you. If you don't want to be around people, what are you doing in a condo? You should have bought/rented a house outside the city, away from other houses. You shouldn't be upset about children being noisy etc. if you are living in a condo community.

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I'd hate to live in any sort of communal arrangement (condo, set of townhouses etc.) with facilities that are shared on a daily basis with tourists.

I don't see why anyone thinks that continually renting a room out in a condo for a few days to different random tourists will not make trouble.

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So no mention of stand alone homes or town homes for rent on a daily basis on the beach - arguably, the Hotel Act would apply to these homes as well.

Authorities just seem to throwing out a big net to see what they can catch.

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As a matter of principle, I cannot support laws that reduce property rights.

They should have made rentals inconvenient by registration, tax collection, etc. but banning private short term rentals is not compatible with ownership.

The laws exist and existed when the units were acquired or constructed. You can't reduce a "right" that never existed.

Property rights have limits. You can't operate as a hotel or conduct a retail business or raise pigs etc in a condo just because you own a unit.

And when it comes to property rights, what about the rights of the people who bought their units or signed long term rental agreements? There was an explicit or implied assumption that they would be living in a residential building not an unregulated brothel.

Condo rules are a different thing.

What I am opposed to is a general Law, applicable to everybody everywhere regardless of circumstances, banning short term rentals.

Your last sentence makes me think you experienced some frustration with short term rentals in your condo development?

"implied assumption" ... lol.

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