German fails in suicide bid - despite slashing throat and jumping from 14th floor

[LannaGuy]

2 hours ago, chiang mai said:

 

If the bed were made and covered with a floral cover it would be a totally different picture.

 

you are NOT a forensic specialist you ARE a rose glasses neo-Thai please spare us your "Thais are wonderful it would never happen in LOS" BS - thanks

[tomwct]

Now he'll have to pay for his hotel bill!

[futurespeter]

54 minutes ago, bkksteve123 said:

Always sad when someone decides to take their own life. Hope the guy had time to regret the decision and was saved by the 12th floor. However, a man of that age probably knew what he wants to do and has seen what life has to offer him, as opposed to a spur of the moment broken-hearted teen suicide....I'm sure he will find a way to finish his business, if life really is that bad for him.

 

I used to live on this street before (Ratchada soi 17), but don't remember any building/hotel that would slope as such that one would not be able to free fall. Does anyone know which hotel this was?

 

Searching facebook for "Thomas Mahlendorf" shows his (possible) picture.

[sahibji]

5 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

Had he succeeded then several here would be calling it murder and blaming the BiB for a cover-up  ;-)

 

The poor guy thought his life was bad before...now its even worse.

 

 

unfortunately brought upon himself  by him.

[sahibji]

2 hours ago, monkey4u said:

Not much blood for a cut throat,

As for jumping out of a 14th floor window, the man has balls

I don't even like to look out a window that high

the person committing the act hardly knows what he is doing. some call it cowardice to commit suicide.

[sahibji]

1 hour ago, tomwct said:

Now he'll have to pay for his hotel bill!

that is the least of the worries. the medical bills will probably the initial headache.

[F4UCorsair]

I hope he buys a lottery ticket.   With that sort of luck, he's a sure winner.

[sahibji]

i can not figure why visitors to the country ( who would gone there thinking that life would be better in thailand)  end up in such situations. is it wrong budgeting or some other financial stress.

[smew]

A suicide, GF issues or no money, but now can he pay for his med bills... sad !

[JayBeeee]

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[spidermike007]

If indeed it was a suicide attempt, it was pretty pathetic. The one thing you do not want to fail at, in this life, is the attempt to kill yourself. Especially after slashing his own throat, and falling from the 14th floor. Imagine how damaged he is now?

 

However, I seriously doubt it was suicide. How many people slash their own throats? And fail at it? And then jump out the window, or off the balcony, after they are bleeding out? It just sounds too far fetched. So many unresolved murders, or attempted murders here are labeled suicides, by some of the laziest, and least competent police on the planet. 

[impulse]

2 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

 

Alright, I will buy that.

 

But family almost always has a hard time accepting a loved one committed suicide. One reason is the guilt they feel that they were not "there" for their loved one. 

 

.....

 

But I am a cynical old bastard  ;-)

 

So am I.  Even looking past the stigma and the sadness, look at the practical side of a suicide ruling.  Let's widen the scope to murder or accident vs suicide.

 

What travel insurance is going to cover a tourist in hospital, emergency evacuation, repatriation of remains, or death benefits for someone who buys a policy and then deliberately kills himself (or tries and fails) within weeks?  How many life insurance policies won't pay out (or pay a significantly reduced amount) for a suicide?  (See note below)

 

So if a tourist falls off a balcony because the railing is too low, a suicide ruling may protect Thailand's tourism image (and the hotel's liability) but it could cost his survivors in the 6 figures when they get hit with all the costs and denied any benefits.  

 

If a tourist is murdered, add to the $$$ cost the fact that there's a murderer walking around uncaught if there's a presumption of suicide.

 

Note:  If anyone does find a travel or life insurance that pays out survivor benefits for short time suicides, let me know.  I have a dastardly business idea to offer suicide intend-ees an amazing sendoff in return for being named a beneficiary.  Of course, that's tongue in cheek.  But it's to preempt the guys who are going to come on and say that their short term travel insurance pays out for suicides.

 

[JayBeeee]

5 hours ago, Ken Wales said:

IMO his money had run out.  He could see no future for himself. No money in LOS is very bad. Very sorry for him 

 

 

Does "IMO" mean, 'I have abolutely no idea, but I'll guess'?

If so, IMO a thousand possibilities.

[sapson]

3 hours ago, Don Mega said:

sue because he is a loser and could not take his own life.

I though he was German no American.

 

Your compassion is stunning....................

 

What an absolute winner of a person you must be! unlike this guy with obvious mental issues and despair who you feel the need to point as a being a loser!!

[ClutchClark]

16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

If indeed it was a suicide attempt, it was pretty pathetic. The one thing you do not want to fail at, in this life, is the attempt to kill yourself. Especially after slashing his own throat, and falling from the 14th floor. Imagine how damaged he is now?

 

However, I seriously doubt it was suicide. How many people slash their own throats? And fail at it? And then jump out the window, or off the balcony, after they are bleeding out? It just sounds too far fetched. So many unresolved murders, or attempted murders here are labeled suicides, by some of the laziest, and least competent police on the planet. 

 

Mike,

 

He missed his carotid artery or the room would be covered in blood. Covered. It stated blood was found in the bathroom so quite likely this would have been the place he first tried to cut himself since it would provide him benefit of a mirror. Had he severed the carotid then he would have passed out in seconds.

 

It takes alot of guts to take a knife to your own throat I would imagine. I am guessing knife since a razor would have moved through the neck much easier and increased the likelihood of success.

 

Failing the slit throat attempt he then went to the bed in a panic and then the window and jumped but this was not part of his original plan since he had never checked to see if it was a clear shot to the ground.

 

Its a pretty basic play-by-play. 

 

Far more reasonable than an assumption that an attacker failed to slit his throat so moved him to the window and lifted him out. Or were you suggesting multiple attackers? In either case, there was blood on the floor and either the attackers footprints would be easily identified or the cleaned up area of floor where the alleged attackers had wiped up their bloody footprints. 

 

Has anyone here ever seen a hotel without CCTV in the past 1-2 years? Serious question. 

 

it would be quite easy to determine if he had a visitor unless you are now suggesting the hotel staff was also involved. 

 

Why does every farang suicide here need to be a hidden murder? 

 

Are we now expecting the killer(s) are going to secretly visit his hospital bedside and inject a drug into his IV to finish him off? 

 

 

[wvavin]

So he jumped from the 14th floor and landed saved by the 12th floor balcony......this balcony does not kill!

[SOTIRIOS]

....too cliche....

 

...every life warrants an investigation....

 

...especially if 'someone else' told the police....that person should be a possible suspect...except in lala land...

[chiang mai]

5 hours ago, chiang mai said:

 

"What is this strange attraction to Thailand that expats get when they choose to stay here in these squallid conditions and all alone"? 

 

It's a hotel room and from the very limited view it's difficult if not impossible to tell much about it at all, hardly squalid though!

 

4 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

 

Interesting...that photo of the room describes quite a lot to me.

 

4 hours ago, chiang mai said:

 

If the bed were made and covered with a floral cover it would be a totally different picture.

 

2 hours ago, LannaGuy said:

 

you are NOT a forensic specialist you ARE a rose glasses neo-Thai please spare us your "Thais are wonderful it would never happen in LOS" BS - thanks

 

You seriously need to go back and read the thread again and then come back and apologise, if you're man enough! We were talking about use of the word squalid in the context of the state of the room and it's appearance, nothing more and nothing less!!!

[JayBeeee]

3 hours ago, Plutojames88 said:

What BS ....someone cut his throat ..he escaped.....

 

wholesale murder in LOS ....

 

Avoid

If that's what does it for you!

[Agent Sumo]

3 hours ago, impulse said:

 

 Prudent police would at least ask a few questions before closing the case.

 

 

Another knee-jerk verdict courtesy of the Thaivisa Crime Investigation Oversight Committee (Recliner Division)

 

How do you surmise they've "closed the case"?

 

They had 30 minutes or so between finding the guy and the initial reports breaking in the media.

[PattayaBoy]

Cowardlish and selfish way out. Someone got to clean that mess, fam expatriate body or ashes, funeral etc. Dying abroad costs fortune.

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[JayBeeee]

3 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

 

But I am a cynical old bastard  ;-)

 

People who think critically are often called cynics by those who don't!

  - George Bernard Shaw

[impulse]

3 minutes ago, Agent Sumo said:

 

Another knee-jerk verdict courtesy of the Thaivisa Crime Investigation Oversight Committee (Recliner Division)

 

How do you surmise they've "closed the case"?

 

They had 30 minutes or so between finding the guy and the initial reports breaking in the media.

 

Help me out then.  Show me one case where the Thai police have changed an initial suicide ruling on a foreigner after further investigation.  I'm not saying it's never happened.  I just don't remember any.  Not one in 5 years.

 

[JayBeeee]

1 hour ago, sahibji said:

that is the least of the worries. the medical bills will probably the initial headache.

I'd say the12th floor was the initial headache!

[JayBeeee]

1 hour ago, F4UCorsair said:

I hope he buys a lottery ticket.   With that sort of luck, he's a sure winner.

I would have thought quite the opposite!

[Agent Sumo]

9 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Help me out then.  Show me one case where the Thai police have changed an initial suicide ruling on a foreigner after further investigation.  I'm not saying it's never happened.  I just don't remember any.  Not one in 5 years.

 

 

I wasn't talking about whether or not the police have changed what was initially a suicide matter into a murder enquiry are we?

 

This is about the proclivity some posters here have for expecting the police to solve a crime or incident in the short period between discovery and initial reports in the media

[Agent Sumo]

17 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

 

Having dealt extensively with the Thai Police I can unequivocally state that they are not competent, thus any criticism leveled at them for poor performance is usually accurate.

 

They are far more interested in making money from their various illegal businesses, extortions and shakedowns to do any proper Police work. They simply don't function as a Police force should, and have no interest in doing anything for the public good. 

 

Some of them are but not all . . . unless, of course, your "extensive dealings" have seen you interact with all of them

[JacChang]

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[Goldcup]

If at first you don't succeed.....

[williamgeorgeallen]

finally one who survived. he can tell us if it was  attempted murder or attempted suicide. pretty poorly executed if it was attempted suicide.