German fails in suicide bid - despite slashing throat and jumping from 14th floor

[Sphere]

At least he did miss that unlucky 13th floor.

[user343434]

well, as German i would say: Living his dream with his savings, 61 Pension age not reached, Girl gone (expensive BKK) ended up and may be finally woke up from his dream and remembered the Appartement paid by the German Social depatement or he could pay by himself with his small job.

My Rules for Expats and those who want to become Expats: 

-It takes 2 days to say 'I am gone'

-it takes 7 years to say 'I am here'

-be covered for 99years of age and not dream any country just was waiting for you and freebies you a millionaires     life.

-leaving the home country, you might be happier but life will always be facing the worse, can you handle it?

-Understand early enough when the words have to be said: "It went wrong so better I leave back home."

-have a ticket or at least a deposit that covers the ticket.

 

The one picture, (with a made up bed or messed like it doesn't matter) is speaks for me enough that some of the rules above have been broken. I left Pattaya after 12 years because there are now 1000's of this kind of people.

The two years ago, I came back from a 6 month offshore consultant job which was the best paid ever that made me reaching 110 years in pension.

A German came into the pub and asked for me. As the Landlord pointed out the first words were:

Hi Will, I have heard you are offshore working and you are fresh? I can offer you a good deal if you are interested, I need to renovate my well running bar because it doesn't run as good as before. if you are interested and I know with the offer I make you will be.....

In that moment I called an all stop, offered him a beer and asked. If he ever went into a bank and asked the Manager:

Hello sir I have heard you are fresh? ...and NO, I am not interested. 

Recently I have seen him again, has an appartement of 3500 baht/month and tells anyone he doesn't need a big house and all the sh*t like car and bar, he made enough money with selling his places to make it a good living and enjoys his new PCX.  

People told me, he is not so frequently seen in the bars of Pattaya Darkside anymore where he was short timing on daily base or hired a 'new wife'.

Lets see when he offers me a great deal for his PCX..  ...Or leaves behind a police report with a photo similar to the one above.

They are Fruitcakes and those will roaming the streets, chasing the Luck, also in the year, when we had the last day of our pension and our ashes getting spread over our favorite spot on earth.

 

 

 

 

[balo]

Unless he was terminally ill I see no reason why people from a good country like Germany should kill themselves.  If you're broke and alone you go to the embassy , there's always a way out .   He could get the help he needs in Germany, I hope they send him home when he has recovered, or else he will try again in a few weeks and succeed. 

 

 

 

[swanny321]

1 minute ago, balo said:

Unless he was terminally ill I see no reason why people from a good country like Germany should kill themselves.  If you're broke and alone you go to the embassy , there's always a way out .   He could get the help he needs in Germany, I hope they send him home when he has recovered. 

 

 

 

 

   If he can't pay his bills they wont let him leave will they?Probably get sued!

[hdkane]

10 hours ago, ClutchClark said:

Had he succeeded then several here would be calling it murder and blaming the BiB for a cover-up  ;-)

 

The poor guy thought his life was bad before...now its even worse. Look at how barren & depressing that room is. Filled with only a few very cheap pieces of furniture. 

 

What is this strange attraction to Thailand that expats get when they choose to stay here in these squallid conditions and all alone? 

 

That area of BKK is pretty good...so he probably rented the cheapest apartment in the nicest area he could afford...as for being alone, it is pretty difficult to meet quality people here...most farang here are people I would not befriend in my home country...also, he is older, which makes it even more difficult...for many of us, Thailand is an unfriendly and lonely place...

[Basil B]

One might say "a hard nut to crack".

 

though I hope he does make a full & speedy recovery.

[chiang mai]

8 hours ago, LannaGuy said:

 

you are NOT a forensic specialist you ARE a rose glasses neo-Thai please spare us your "Thais are wonderful it would never happen in LOS" BS - thanks

 

5 hours ago, chiang mai said:

 

You seriously need to go back and read the thread again and then come back and apologise, if you're man enough! We were talking about use of the word squalid in the context of the state of the room and it's appearance, nothing more and nothing less!!!

 

So not man enough, enough said!

[Rod Gold]

Unless you are personally a questionable eye witness, then it is pure conjecture to assume either suicide or attempted murder.  Either way it was a botched effort.  The result of the investigation will likely be as botched as the failed attempt to end a life.    

[Spock]

5 hours ago, PattayaBoy said:

Cowardlish and selfish way out. Someone got to clean that mess, fam expatriate body or ashes, funeral etc. Dying abroad costs fortune.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
 

Just out of interest, do you know how much to repatriate a dead body? Can a local funeral be arranged ahead of time?

[ClutchClark]

11 minutes ago, Rod Gold said:

Unless you are personally a questionable eye witness, then it is pure conjecture to assume either suicide or attempted murder.  Either way it was a botched effort.  The result of the investigation will likely be as botched as the failed attempt to end a life.    

 

Power of observation combined with experience removes a certain amount of the guesswork; however, you are correct that it is just conjecture. . 

 

But that is also the case for the 1,000's of crime related stories that appear in TVF and are misreported, under-reported, mis-interpretted, etc..

 

I have found few situations yet where I would trust someone elses portrayal of events over my own and based on the complete absence of trust in the BiB here at TVF, are you suggesting their police report would even be factual ?

 

;-)

[ratcatcher]

9 hours ago, Don Mega said:

^^is there any retail murder ?

No,james tends towards the dramatic thus wholesale sounds far more serious............

 

Avoid like the plague.

[Suetape]

No mater what the truth and circumstances are this is a very sad story and hopefully that man will get help healing.  

[ClutchClark]

3 hours ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

 

I was working on the premise that most people who attempt suicide don't really want to die.

 

That is statistically correct that many suicides are a cry for help but isn't that largely a factor of age? Younger people are more inclined to make a suicide attempt when the desired outcome is not actually to die.

 

Conversely, I wonder how many of the "assumed" suicides over here were guys just looking for attention? If there were solid grounds for the motivation then a failed attempt does not change that--the guy is still going to be broke, still going to be lonely, etc..

 

you brougt up a really good point. It would be interesting for a grad student to get permission to shadow the investigation to learn more about the nature of fatang suicides in LOS.

[dotpoom]

1 hour ago, ClutchClark said:

Had he succeeded then several here would be calling it murder and blaming the BiB for a cover-up  ;-)

 

The poor guy thought his life was bad before...now its even worse.

 

 

 

They could still say it was attempted murder?

      Hope sincerely things take a turn for the better with his life.

[bannork]

A couple of points:

Most of the blood was in the bathroom according to Thai Rath newspaper.

Secondly, if someone wanted to murder him, having cut his throat already it would be madness to chuck his body out of the window attracting immediate attention. Surely any assailant would simply let him bleed to death in the bathroom before sneaking away?

[pattayahenry]

if you look at the hotel construction, one can jump or fall down just 1 floor, not 2 floors.( only from 14 to 13, otherwise he would fall to the ground) nobody would slash his one throat and then jump down just 1 floor, i strongly believe, he escaped attempted murder, (very likely a bargirl or ladyboy from the nearby rachadapisek redlight district, who was caught stealing) police always cover it up, if possible, because it would harm tourism.    
http://www.wattanahotel.com/gallery.html

 

[ClutchClark]

24 minutes ago, pattayahenry said:

if you look at the hotel construction, one can jump or fall down just 1 floor, not 2 floors.( only from 14 to 13, otherwise he would fall to the ground) nobody would slash his one throat and then jump down just 1 floor, i strongly believe, he escaped attempted murder, (very likely a bargirl or ladyboy from the nearby rachadapisek redlight district, who was caught stealing) police always cover it up, if possible, because it would harm tourism.    
http://www.wattanahotel.com/gallery.html

 

 

You know what is really crazy?

 

That a hotel like that lacks any CCTV that would have certsinly captured any visitors.

 

Plus, don't you think the police might be a little hesitant to frame this a s a suicide if it was an attempted murder since the victim is still alive and would offer interviews to the contrary? 

 

Just some food for thought.

[Khon Kaen Dave]

I cant really comment.

[oldlakey]

13 hours ago, Don Mega said:

sue because he is a loser and could not take his own life.

I though he was German no American.

I always wear a hat when I go out in the sun especially at midday with my dog

[car720]

14 hours ago, Thechook said:

When did I say it was murder, the very word isn't even in my post.  The guy isn't even dead and what I was saying is I would rather hear the Germans version of events and not what bumbling bib believe happened.  

 

I'll carry it for you.  I think it was attempted murder.

Who slits their own throat and then jumps out the 14th floor window?

Anyone with balls that big would not do it in the first place.

Now everyone can feel free to have a piece of me.

 

[dbrenn]

Reminds me of Suicidal Syd from Viz magazine. ..

[chicowoodduck]

Just two things come to mind....

 

1. He was pushed.

 

2.  Should come to Pattaya...much better success rate for jumpers when pushed! ??

[Bender]

Typical murder in this country,  they kill you first (stab you to death, poison you,  hammer you to death, slash your throath, etc etc).

Then they push you by the window. Your body hit the ground and smash in thousand pieces.

No more proof of murder by knife, hammering, poison.Police dont bother to investigate and conclude, its a suicide....

 

 

but but but, in this case the foreigner is still alive. I would like to hear his side of the story.

[GOLDBUGGY]

Well Buddy! It looks like the Good Lord wants you around for a few more years at least. Hang in their! Who knows? You might be the next Pope.  

[AlexRich]

1 hour ago, oldlakey said:

I always wear a hat when I go out in the sun especially at midday with my dog

 

Presumably a mad dog?

[callaway]

12 hours ago, Spock said:

Just out of interest, do you know how much to repatriate a dead body? Can a local funeral be arranged ahead of time?

A mate died in Phuket in a motorbike accident. The costs to repatriate his body back to Aussie were astronomical. It was cheaper for the folks and sister to fly to there. cremate the body and the sister then took the ashes back in hand carry. I did hear her bandy around the $15,000 figure in a conversation. That was after they paid the bill for the incompetent hospital. At first he was only going to lose his leg, which should have been not a big deal. They then administered drugs that bought on a serious cardiac arrest. He was 32. The first arrest he survived then they all left the room and him unattended for an hour. They came back and he was dead. Very poor treatment all round. Before any of you say about tourists and bikes I can tell you it was not his fault. He had rode bike solely since he got his license at 17. Just not used to cement trucks coming straight out of a side street with out looking if others were using the road. Just drove straight into him. <deleted> these truckies over here. Take a look at the acronym of the first 4 words of last sentence and you will see what I think of them.

[pattayahenry]

sorry for your mate.
if you are driving in thailand, you have to understand their different mentality, they  view a road like a river full of boats. the same way, a boat cannot simply stop in the middle of a river, they also dont stop, big vehicles always have the right of way, the same as big  boats  versus small boats on a river, including all side-rivers. i am driving my own small motorbikes in pattaya since 20 years, without a single accident. i drive very defensive, as if all other drivers were drunk, thats the only way to stay save.

 

[scubascuba3]

I read today in my travel insurance that medical bills aren't covered if its attempted suicide. Enough said.

[dunroaming]

The man is alive and in hospital. Why not just wait and see what he says. What is the point in speculating when he didn't die?

[Bender]

2 hours ago, dunroaming said:

The man is alive and in hospital. Why not just wait and see what he says. What is the point in speculating when he didn't die?

high chance, there is no follow up by the journalist and a cover up by the thai police. As usual...