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I was wondering if people could explain their thoughts on what a normal drinker is.

I am English, much of my family is Irish. From a very young age drinking was a very big part if life.

Every Saturday at Aunts or Grandma's the family would meet. Adults would go to the pub, kids stay at the house. Then back home a litre bottle of Bells would be opened.

Sometimes it'd be the social club where kids could go and Aunts and Unclez would slip me a wink and hand me a 'doctored' coke. Sometimes I'd get cups of tea with a shot of scotch. From about the age of 13...,

My dad and I would take the dog for a walk, which meant the pub.

None of this was uncommon. Many of these people and my cousins are still heavy drinkers. Way exceeding the govts advised limits.

I see people all over the world like that. They cannot go through life without drink. They have physical cravings for booze yet they seperate it from 'work life'.

Are these people 'normal drinkers'? They are certainly damaging their health and they know it. They cant stop yet they have reached a balance with their addiction where they can maintain a job and relationships.

I dont think I know many normal drinkers. One girl I lnow from school is an author and every now and again it'll be "ooops drank 2 bottles of wine last night".

This seems the norm to me. The person that just had the occasional drink seems to be the exception.

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In my case, I knew for a long time that I should stop drinking, I was developing acid reflux and was puking twice or more a week. Financially, I used up all my savings and realised that if I didn't st

I think it is best not to try to define "normal" since norms will depend on the reference population (which in your case seems to be people with drinking problems).   A better criteria than

I'd normally not reply to a thread such as this... However, I've been drinking !!!....    I enjoyed dinner tonight with friends, I had a bottle of wine (we each did)... we returned to my pla

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On 9/18/2016 at 9:39 PM, Sheryl said:

I think it is best not to try to define "normal" since norms will depend on the reference population (which in your case seems to be people with drinking problems).

 

A better criteria than "normal" is: is the person's drinking is a problem or not?

Problem = drink to an extent that is harmful to health and/or drinking interferes with normal functioning (sometimes or often) and/or drinking causes problems with relationships/problems to others

 

If it's a problem, then it's a problem, and it doesn't matter how many others in a person's social group have the same problem.

 

 

Well I'd say normal means the "norm" the common type.

 

So if 99 people our of a hundred jumped off cliffs, then that would be normal.

 

So - we are talking about 'normal' drinker. How many of these people are drinking within the healthy range?

 

I seem to have come across mostly people that either don't drink or overdo it. Those that drink within the healthy range seem to be the exception.

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On 9/24/2016 at 2:14 AM, richard_smith237 said:

I'd normally not reply to a thread such as this... However, I've been drinking !!!.... 

 

I enjoyed dinner tonight with friends, I had a bottle of wine (we each did)... we returned to my place... I have a number of different bottles of Whisky, so I opened two...  In two hours I had 1 glass of each (probably less than a shot)... I didn't like the second so I didn't finish it.... 

 

I had a good night, I enjoyed the Wine, I enjoyed the food and I enjoyed a Whisky..... I don't feel I was drunk, however, I most definitely would not have chosen to drive... 

 

Am I a normal drinker ?....... I've no idea... I don't care if I drink more or less than others, I don't care what is considered normal..... I do care if my drinking effects others negatively.... 

Normal drinkers don't post how much they had to drink on internet forums at 2 am in the morning. 

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I am surprised that nobody have yet tried to quantify what is "normal" drinking. Most health guidelines suggest 3 units of alcohol per day on average is tolerable. Keep in mind that a unit of alcohol is defined as 10 ml of pure alcohol.

 

A weekly intake of 21 units could be:

1 bottle of wine

6 beers

 

Personally, on average, that is my upper limits.

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1 minute ago, White Christmas13 said:

So how to give up drinking could turkey 

I gave up smoking doing this how you do Drinking?

It depends how much and for how long you have been drinking.

 

It did it many times with a few valium. It would take me a couple of days before I could eat anything. The valium should only be used for a few days.

Also, glucolin was very useful - pure glucose powder to put in all drinks.

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On 26.9.2016 at 9:15 PM, ExpatOilWorker said:

I am surprised that nobody have yet tried to quantify what is "normal" drinking. Most health guidelines suggest 3 units of alcohol per day on average is tolerable. Keep in mind that a unit of alcohol is defined as 10 ml of pure alcohol.

 

A weekly intake of 21 units could be:

1 bottle of wine

6 beers

 

Personally, on average, that is my upper limits.

 

You can´t quantify. We´re all different !

Especially me . .   :smile:

 

 

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3 hours ago, starfish said:

 

You can´t quantify. We´re all different !

Especially me . .   :smile:

 

 

 

That is true, even our inner plumbing and chemistry works in different ways and it was very well illustrated in a Horizon documentary.

 

Some, especially Asians are direct allergic to alcohol and flush red when drinking.

The majority just get drunk and have a hangover.

Some have an internal "pressure relief valve" for alcohol and can drink heavily without getting excessive drunk and have moderate hangovers. 

 

Personally, I hate hangovers and that naturally limits my drinking.

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On 10/1/2016 at 0:49 PM, cooked said:

In my case, I knew for a long time that I should stop drinking, I was developing acid reflux and was puking twice or more a week. Financially, I used up all my savings and realised that if I didn't stop I would have to go back home where I would be much better off financially but still have a drinking problem. During a 10 day stay back home my step-granddaughter started sending me messages in English (for the first time) everyday asking when I was coming back, she missed me and sloppy stuff like that. I had a last beer on the plane back and that was the last drink, 131 days ago (yes I have a count up program on my PC). Now I actually have money at the end of the month and am saving, life has improved.

What it comes down to, as far as I am concerned: knowing you should stop isn't enough, you need to be 100% convinced that you need to, for whatever reason.

Cheers!

 

 

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That's great, well done "cooked".

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Millions of lives and families are destroyed every year when people get caught up in semantics about normal drinking and alcoholism.

 

If my drinking causes problems in my life, I have a drinking problem.  Full stop.  Whether I'm a normal drinker, an alcoholic or anything in between.

 

I wasn't an alcoholic when I darkened the door of my first AA meeting.  It didn't matter.  I stopped drinking and a lot of life's problems get better.  That's what counts.

 

Today, I'm a grateful alcoholic.  

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Alcoholics, by definition, will always redefine "Normal". They will gravitate to and attract people, were 12 beers a day is normal. Smokers do the same. If all your friends have there 1st beer at 10am and you wait until 11am, you can pat yourself on the back , normal drinking is a beer at 10am, I wait until 11, Im not an alcoholic.

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"alcoholic" - A man, or a woman, sitting in an AA meeting - trying to figure out if they're alcoholic or not.

 

"normal drinker" - Someone who never ever asks what a normal drinker is...

 

 

LOL

j/k ofc

 

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30 minutes ago, ding said:

"alcoholic" - A man, or a woman, sitting in an AA meeting - trying to figure out if they're alcoholic or not.

 

One of my personal favorites:

 

The difference between a drunk and an alcoholic?   Drunks don't have to go to those meetings.

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18 minutes ago, Johnniey said:

Some great pieces of literature has been written by heavy drinker and alcoholics.

 

Indeed, the same can be said of many substances...  However, this forum no longer offers the 'chain of quotes' making use of context difficult when understanding a response... 

 

 

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On 26 September 2016 at 3:15 PM, ExpatOilWorker said:

I am surprised that nobody have yet tried to quantify what is "normal" drinking. Most health guidelines suggest 3 units of alcohol per day on average is tolerable. Keep in mind that a unit of alcohol is defined as 10 ml of pure alcohol.

 

A weekly intake of 21 units could be:

1 bottle of wine

6 beers

 

Personally, on average, that is my upper limits.

 

a bottle of wine is about 10-12 units so 2 bottles of wine per week and a pint of beer is 2-3 units so around 8 pints

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