Briton gets 4,000 baht fine for not staying where he was registered

[masuk]

Just now, sahibji said:

shabash. thailand is not under occupation.

I had noticed actually, but the new rules are coming thick and fast.

[Ian1980]

52 minutes ago, Xircal said:

 

The BiB checked every hotel in a certain area on September 13 and the overstayer was unlucky to be there when they arrived I guess.

 

Either that or he bought a tourist SIM which immigration now uses to track tourists.

Can be,as if his passport was really damaged,a high rated hotel like Royal Cliff shouldn't let him check in.

 

[lungnorm]

I have visited Thailand several times, each time bar one I just put down Nana hotel Bkk on the form even when I knew I was not going to stay there. I did this as I was intending to stay at some village that I did not know the name of or how to spell it. The only time I did not put the Nana hotel Bkk was when I had a Police escort through the VIP exit from Don Muang airport.

[sahibji]

21 minutes ago, newnative said:

Now if they can just start slapping hefty fines on all those tourists--and their owners--illegally renting condos on a short-term basis...

owners who wish to lease their condos for short term should be allowed to do  by making a special provision for such leases. they should be strictly instructed to record the particulars of the tenants  and  ensure that they have a valid visa for stay in Thailand.

[TPI]

22 minutes ago, Basil B said:

 

As already stated we do not know the full circumstances of the guy fined 4,000B but maybe the 90 day reporting should be an address to which you could be contacted, either you stay frequently or if you travel as part of ones job an office you communicate with on a regular basis.

No, sorry, if you are away from your residence for longer than 24 hours the house owner is required to notify the police and you are required to notify immigration. It doesn't matter if you are having a trip around Thailand and are stopping every night in a different place = 31 notifications x 2 =bloody nonsense. Oz is not the most perfect place but you only have to name where you are staying when you enter the country after that it's "off you go".

[wgdanson]

3 hours ago, catman20 said:

but should of been fine 40,000 baht.

.....should 'HAVE' been..........

[sahibji]

3 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

 

Overstay deluxe at Royal Cliff

 

He could not go home because his passport was damaged.

Haha, nice try

We don't expect a little problem when going home, don't we

i am curious how and on what he survived for nearly two years. unless he was receiving regular remittances he must have in commercial activities, which is also contrary to the laws of the country.

[Winkburn]

Just abide by the reasonable Thai immigration policies and there are no problems simple. 4,000 baht very reasonable. I think if you break Thai Law then no use complaining at all

[Eligius]

2 hours ago, than said:

Law is law

join or leave Thailand

The problem is that Thailand is essentially a lawless land. Coupling the notion of 'law' with that of 'Thailand' is like bracketing together the concepts of 'pregnancy' and  'virginity' (excepting the Virgin Mary - if you are a Christian!). There is no genuine law in Thailand - only rules which are infinitely flexible and infinitely enforceable or non-enforceable as the whim suits the fake 'elites' and petty criminals who run this land for their utterly selfish and conscience-free self-aggrandizement.

 

Thailand a nation of law and order? No way! It never has been and likely never will be.

[Ireland32]

3 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

What interesting arm tats. 

 

Good guys in - bad guys out.

Irish

[Winkburn]

18 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Yes but it gives the crawlers on here a rosey glow seeing fellow farang drop in the cart and reminds them how clever they are by obeying to the letter every petty little rule and reg.

Bet they were always reporting their classmates at school.

 

Break the law anywhere and pay the penalty. This isn't rocket science dear friend.

[TEFLKrabi]

4 hours ago, Basil B said:

Was this for not staying where he stated on a TM landing card one has to fill out on arrival?

 

If it was because he was not staying where he stated when doing a 90 days reporting then hardly a tourist...

 

Is this to do with your Landing Card or was he a long term stayer registered at an address?

 

[Winkburn]

4 hours ago, alocacoc said:

Good Job Immigration fro the 4k THB. Just do everything what is possible to shy away tourists. I think, the best solution could be to to assign to every foreigner an guide, like in North Korea.

Hmmm so you think just do as you please>>>

[IAMHERE]

3 hours ago, Breizh said:

As far as I understand it is for the owner of the hotel you stay in or the owner of the house you are renting to fill the TM30 form and bring it to the immigration. So this guy may have been fined for someone's else "mistake".

YES, this is what scares me. How the heck do I know if my landlord has filed a TM30. Likely the Thai landlord doesn't know a TM30 exist. I go for my 90 day report soon, you may be seeing my picture in the papers.

[Deepinthailand]

3 hours ago, realenglish1 said:

This is bad for Thailand to fine someone like this The publicly will hurt tourism if the media decide to play this one

 

 

I would say he is not a tourist in the sense of the word 90 day report says to me longer term stayer certainly not tourist. So why would it hurt tourism.

[kannot]

53 minutes ago, Ronuk said:

Be careful what you wish for.

have motorbike wear helmet got insurance and tax dont mind following rules as  long as "everyone" does.

[kannot]

40 minutes ago, mikosan said:

If you let 4 of them out you wouldn't have that problem and you might make a little money for yourself as well? 555

whose to say I dont

[petedk]

37 minutes ago, TPI said:

No, sorry, if you are away from your residence for longer than 24 hours the house owner is required to notify the police and you are required to notify immigration. It doesn't matter if you are having a trip around Thailand and are stopping every night in a different place = 31 notifications x 2 =bloody nonsense. Oz is not the most perfect place but you only have to name where you are staying when you enter the country after that it's "off you go".

 

 

I have heard about this rule before;

 

Is it enough that the hotel reports our presence or do we also have to go to immigration?

[Jiggo]

Nikita is that not a Girls name...may be a transgender as well lol

[Scotwight]

The story is only reported on Thai Visa and no questions or corroborative information.  This is important international news.  If it was real the international news media would have already picked up the story.  It's bogus.  Gee you guys are easy to fool.

[SOTIRIOS]

...owners.....arrested...and released...???

[OMGImInPattaya]

3 hours ago, Hooliganzone said:

Many single people come here just on a flight and find a place to stay after they have arrived, so how can you write the name of the place your going to stay on the TM card if you don't know where.

I'm suspect he was not staying at the address he listed for some type of visa extention for which he had applied and been approved for. I doubt it has anything to do with the address one puts on a TM card.

[Phuketboy]

So how do they expect someone for example travelling around Thailand for 30 days to write on the TM card where they are staying? Some tourist might stay in 6 or 7 different places during there trip here.  Another example, you go to your girlfriend/wife's home village for 3 for 4 weeks.  While away, you are not staying where you are registered either.  

[KBsinter]

2 hours ago, silent said:

But ignorance of that and other matters is usually a good enough defense  

Not so, we have all been to immigration and not have the" Right" this and that, in my early days here

I had no idea at all ! still don"t to a point.I moved to Bangkok 2yrs ago from Pattaya and decided too 

register my new home,about a month late, was very lucky the I.O was a senior officer,but my Wife 

helped in this matter,explaining the Falang was not sure he wanted to stay there,!! long story but his entry in 

my P/P was excellent, appriecate your post had some sarcasm  !!lol 

[daveAustin]

4 hours ago, Basil B said:

I do not see it as a " constipated rule", I think it only fair that any country can require all persons to register where they live, and if temporary like a hotel or guest house then they should have register.

 

Wish they would do this in the UK, it would make it more difficult for the illegal immigrants and easier to find wanted people. 

 

Yes, fair enough, but did you know that, by law, you can also get the shaft for not notifying the police/imm that you intend to stay away from your 'residence' for more than 24 hours? Possibly covered when registering at a hotel, but what if the hotel doesn't keep up with their paperwork or you stay at a friend's for the weekend. Stuff could easily happen to any of us if it's not our day, tats or no. Just sayin'.

 

Although visa people need to have a registered address in the UK, it's possible they'd get nobbled if staying elsewhere when Imm come knocking. If not, I think they should make a point of targetting Thais only. 

[newnative]

Short term rentals violate the Thai Hotel Law--which is in place for many valid reasons, Sahibji.

[Dakhar]

57 minutes ago, TPI said:

No, sorry, if you are away from your residence for longer than 24 hours the house owner is required to notify the police and you are required to notify immigration. It doesn't matter if you are having a trip around Thailand and are stopping every night in a different place = 31 notifications x 2 =bloody nonsense. Oz is not the most perfect place but you only have to name where you are staying when you enter the country after that it's "off you go".

 

 

I'm not sure if this is the case.   

 

All I can do is speak from experience.   I am in Thailand on an O Visa, 1 year extension based on marriage, with multiple re-entry.   I leave Thailand about every 9 to 11 weeks.  Often when I return to BKK, I stay in BKK for a few days, then either drive or fly back to my family up North.   

 

After returning home, I then go (with my wife) to the immigration office within 24 hrs, show them my documents, such that they know that I left Thailand, and I am now back with my family.  I think my wife fills out another TM30 (or they just keep the old one on file, as there are no changes).

 

Any how, nothing but pleasantries are shared at the immigration office.  There is no mention regarding my wife not informing immigration of my departure.

 

What does make me nervous about the 4k fine, as I mentioned before, I usually stay in BKK a few days before I head home. I certainly do not want any problems with authorities while I am in BKK.   (and no I don't hang out in bars and chase girls etc etc).  Not that I pass judgement on those that do, I'm just saying it isn't my life style.

 

 

[KBsinter]

1 hour ago, sahibji said:

shabash. thailand is not under occupation.

Are you sure about that...lol

[F4UCorsair]

4 hours ago, Hooliganzone said:

Many single people comigragion offm here just on a flight and find ma place to stay after they have arrived, so how can you write the name of the place your going to stay on the TM card if you don't know where.

 

You can't snd aren't expected to do so.  If required, Immigration Officers would Insist on the card being appropriately completed.  They don't.

This guy wasn't a tourist.

[sabaii69]

Only a quality tourist can afford the Royal Cliff and you toss him?