Over 60 - had a health problem - how have things worked out ?

[Once Bitten]

 

 

Only recently have I become more aware of my overall general health  , I’m 67 and it seems that may be due to my past years of not taking good care of my self , primarily poor diet and lack of exercise along with my misguided belief that in the future I would never really get sick , and I would live to a ripe old age without too many health problems along the way .  Up to now all my past years have been relatively free of any real health issues.

So my recent and worrying brush with health issues ( cholesterol / prostrate / blood pressure ) has made me think and wonder about the health problems of other people who are in my age bracket ( 60+ ) and how they dealt with it .

Due to my current health issues I have only just recently started to look through  many of the posts in this health , body and medicine section , and at first glance it seems I’m not alone in having a health problem and seeking advice and comments for age related medical issues .

 

 Having now found out that I have several current health problems , the phrase    ‘’ I should have done ‘’   keeps going through my mind,  I should have taken more care of my self , been more aware of my sedentary lifestyle ( couch potato ) , exercised more and generally thought more about my future long term health .

 

 Now I know of my current health issues I am trying to stay positive and be proactive about life and my future health outlook.

 

I have seen many posts here seeking advice and guidance , but few return posts that actually outline or update some ones health problem and its progress and out come, was the health issue ever resolved, controlled or still on going .

 

Really I’m just wondering how others here in my age group who have had or experienced health problems while in Thailand,  coped , managed and came to terms with being over 60 years of age and having to face a possible uncertain medical future.

 

Hopefully there may be some positive comments posted , where things for some have worked out for the better , may be given a second chance to try to halt , slow down or correct a medical problems , and may be there will be one or two ,   ‘’  I should have done ‘’  comments .

 

Sorry if this is a bit of a ramble on  , but I would like to get the thoughts from other 60+ members on the above subject  .

 

 

 

 

 

[lopburi3]

What is in the past can not be changed so probably best to just try to take better care of our/your/self now.  Lipids are more of a danger if there is family history of blockage but probably good for everyone to keep at a reasonable level.  You may want to take a cheap EKG for basic heart test and if any question a stress test (can be physical or medical for those of us out of shape).  Most of us also have blood pressure issues and home testing I have found to be vital to accurate information (it is not just pretty girls causing BP to increase - those white coats are often the cause).  Prostate is also a common problem - but my partial removal was because of cancer in bladder.   Many of us will also have skin cancer issues and this is something we need to be proactive about as most doctors here do not consider cancer as likely.  Routine blood test from an internist used to treating older folks can also be helpful 

 

OK for the bad stress test found blockage and had two stents about 5 years ago - still good and with LDL in 80 range may last some more time.

For bad thyroid with suspect mass had removed - one pill a day takes care of that for last 5 years.

For skin cancer try to keep ahead and remove when found.  Mine has been slow growing types so not a big issue.

For blood in urine cancer found in bladder and removed several months ago.  Bladder appears to have been a good container keeping it in one place.  One never knows what tomorrow brings but for now life is still good and we adapt.

[meatboy]

i abused myself for over 40yrs.till i started having thoughts about my health.eat anything that wasnt good for you,drink till you couldnt take anymore,30yrs.of no exersize,a weight of 18stone,till one day it took hold.i was lucky i had good contacts one was a top professor of medicine who i got to see straight away 2002. what problems i had [well documented] on this forum,the docter new straight away what had to be done.for 5yrs.of test after test,loosing over 3stone before they wood doo the ops.2007 after heart surgery,by pass, i felt like a new man,with a loverly wife.

i am rearly enjoying my life and i dont want it to end,BUT the past few months,a mini stroke and a seizure.

i am sure i found the reason for these mishaps,so i have stopped drinking and cut down on food and getting MORE sleep.

so if ONCE BITTEN can afford it write it all down whats been happening and try and find a top doctor who will see if your ready for the

NACKERS YARD.

[Sheryl]

It is a simple fact of life that as one ages, medical problems become more common. Virtually no one lives to a ripe old age free of significant health problems and then suddenly  keels over dead. That is just not how it works...especially in this day and age where, due to technological advances, there are more treatments available for conditions that would previously have been incurable. (I hear some people say they will just forego medical care and "just die when its my time". I have yet to see anyone in constant pain  from severe hip or knee degeneration or fractured hip or pelvis etc gladly forego the treatment that makes a difference between living years disabled and in pain vs. pain free and active. For that matter, when it comes down the wire very few people cheerfully accept dying of a potentially treatable cause or one that could be successfully managed to allow many more years of life).

 

This forum is chock full of accounts of accounts of health problems from mild to life-threatening, acute to chronic, among people of all ages but of course especially those in the older age brackets.

 

I've been involved in trying to help sort out some very serious problems among expats in Thailand and by far the biggest "should have" is should have gotten health insurance while I still could. Actually, even at advanced ages and with some already existing health problems it is often still possible to get insurance but it will exclude pre-existing conditions, at least for the first few years of the policy, maybe for its duration depending on what the issue is.  (Some European insurers will also allow coverage for "acute exacerbations" of underlying pre-existing conditions, again depends on the insurer). That is still worth doing - people tend to focus solely ion the problems they already have and what these may lead to, as if they were somehow immune to accidents and the unexpected development of other problems, but that is not realistic. In my experience the mental "scripts" people have - consciously or unconsciously - about what will happen re their health almost always turn out to be wrong.  Still, no question but that a lot of huge problems - including sometimes being forced to repatriate back to the  home country when one no longer has any ties or relationships there - would be prevented if people would accept the need to obtain (and pay for)  health insurance.

 

A good case in point here  http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/945185-pattaya-hospital-prices/

 

[Blue bruce]

Hi Sheryl, I always enjoy reading your messages as they are very informative.  I am commenting on  today's post because I am an American x pat over 65 without health insurance. 

The reason I do not have health insurance is I relocated to Thailand when I was past 60 and with preexisting conditions  I was denied. 

Now nearing 70 my plan to keep my health is to go to  a Thai hospital or clinic when I can't cure my own illness, colds, sinus infections,  small medical problems.  

In the event of a major medical problem I go to a Thai private hospital for a diagnosis. If it is truly serious as in my case prostate cancer.  I went back to the U.S. for free treatment.  After recovery I came back to my home in Thailand.  

If I ever get to the point where I need constant medical attention or nursing care I will move back to the U.S.

Thanks for all the information you provide. 

 

 

[Once Bitten]

Thanks lopburi3 for the comments and advice.

 

 Hindsight is a great informer but very unforgiving. If I could go back in time and give my younger self some health advice , I certainly would  but sadly the ticking clock of life cannot be turned back , so the best I can now do is to try and  learn from my past mistakes and other people’s experiences .   Your comment of ,  '' One never knows what tomorrow brings but for now life is still good and we adapt ''  says it all .

 

[Once Bitten]

meatboy , I think you , me and many people in our age range have come to realize that our past mistakes where health was concerned may have been the catalyst that brought us to where we are now.
 
Your determination only goes to show that once a medical problem has been realized , then action , can be taken .  

 

[Once Bitten]

Sheryl

As always a great and informative post . On the subject of medical insurance , personally I have had private medical insurance in Thailand with the same company for over ten years ( in patient only) .

 

I have never had the need to make a claim on the insurance policy , and at my age even though the health insurance premiums rise every year ,  I still keep paying .

 

For me personally the other worrying area with regard to reaching 60+ and finding I have age associated medical problems , is how to now cope with the new knowledge that my future may be less certain and unpredictable,  than I believed before my current health issues.

 

Another thought ,   my old grand mother some times used the saying , a shoe shop owner will all ways wear good shoes , so as you obviously have a large array of sound medical advice and knowledge that you offer to others here , I am wondering ( curiosity )  how your personal health is , I hope you don’t mind me asking.

 

 

 

[Once Bitten]

Blue bruce , just a thought.

 

what if an unpredicted serious medical condition disables and stops a person from flying back home and the only course of action is to seek what may be very expensive medical attention in Thailand .

 

[banK]

After a full life, trouble free healthwise, at the age of 65 (I think!) I decided to take out an inpatient only expat health insurance.

There were no pre existing conditions applied.

 

The first year claim free but in year 2 it was found that I had lung cancer. The pre op CT scan also revealed a AAA that needed repairing.

Two thirds of the right lung was removed and thankfully the pathology revealed that the cancer had been arrested at stage 1.

 

This operation was shortly followed by another to insert a 14cm stent to repair the AAA. 

 

The above was done at the Bangkok medical centre Bangkok. Total cost 3 million Baht.

 

The renewal of insurance this year after the 2 big operations, only a 5.2% hike in premiums.

 

I have just recently had another operation in the Bangkok hospital Khon Kaen (within the last week). This one for an Hernia at the top of the scar of the AAA. This one entailed a 20cm slice down the same scar to mesh repair a 10cm hernia. I'm having the 17 staples removed on Saturday. The cost of this procedure 202,000 Baht, This all covered by the insurance with no quibbling.

 

I bought a treadmill to enable exercise after the 2 ops in Bangkok and have rarely missed walking at a brisk pace everyday for 30 mins.

 

Oh, and the other problem I have is I am hyperthyroid since October last year, this is under control with medication.

 

I would never have thought that I would have  these problems only 3 years ago. I thank the Lord that I was fortunate enough to take out medical insurance when I did.

 

As other posters, I only have praise for Sheryl, such a knowledgeable, helpful and compassionate person - very difficult to find someone like this .

 

banK

 

 

[Sheryl]

8 hours ago, Blue bruce said:

Hi Sheryl, I always enjoy reading your messages as they are very informative.  I am commenting on  today's post because I am an American x pat over 65 without health insurance. 

The reason I do not have health insurance is I relocated to Thailand when I was past 60 and with preexisting conditions  I was denied. 

Now nearing 70 my plan to keep my health is to go to  a Thai hospital or clinic when I can't cure my own illness, colds, sinus infections,  small medical problems.  

In the event of a major medical problem I go to a Thai private hospital for a diagnosis. If it is truly serious as in my case prostate cancer.  I went back to the U.S. for free treatment.  After recovery I came back to my home in Thailand.  

If I ever get to the point where I need constant medical attention or nursing care I will move back to the U.S.

Thanks for all the information you provide. 

 

 

 

Thailand based insurers won't enroll people at that age but most European based companies will. Even now, at 70, you could get coverage. The pre-existing conditions might be excluded - either altogether or for the first few years - but you can likely get coverage for everything else, and some policies will also give limited cover for things related to pre-exsiting.

 

The flaw with your plan is, as another poster pointed out, a major accident or catastrophic acute illness (heart attack, stroke etc) could leave you in need of costly care and unable to travel. I've seen it happen more times than I can count.

 

I suggest you consult an insurance broker. An expat policy at age 70 won't be cheap, but you can reduce premiums by accepting an excess.

[1FinickyOne]

Hi Once, read most of the posts, but did not see anything about advising you to get a check-up and have a better idea of where you are at... I had always been sort of cavalier about statins, not liking drug companies, etc etc... but I finally was convinced by my doctor that it is really better to get my cholesterol down now any way that is possible as I am not likely to do it with diet alone. 

 

I have several friends in the 60+ area, who are running into problems. So far, ones that can be healed, but since none of us are going to live forever, we do need to look at the future realistically... I am also 60+ and the few things that I plan for may not be the bus that hits me... just have to try and eat better, be more active and keep ahead of the small stuff before it gets big... which means regular check-ups, as much as I do not like going to doctors... 

 

Be well... 

[Once Bitten]

1 hour ago, banK said:

After a full life, trouble free healthwise, at the age of 65 (I think!) I decided to take out an inpatient only expat health insurance.

There were no pre existing conditions applied.

 

The first year claim free but in year 2 it was found that I had lung cancer. The pre op CT scan also revealed a AAA that needed repairing.

Two thirds of the right lung was removed and thankfully the pathology revealed that the cancer had been arrested at stage 1.

 

This operation was shortly followed by another to insert a 14cm stent to repair the AAA. 

 

The above was done at the Bangkok medical centre Bangkok. Total cost 3 million Baht.

 

The renewal of insurance this year after the 2 big operations, only a 5.2% hike in premiums.

 

I have just recently had another operation in the Bangkok hospital Khon Kaen (within the last week). This one for an Hernia at the top of the scar of the AAA. This one entailed a 20cm slice down the same scar to mesh repair a 10cm hernia. I'm having the 17 staples removed on Saturday. The cost of this procedure 202,000 Baht, This all covered by the insurance with no quibbling.

 

I bought a treadmill to enable exercise after the 2 ops in Bangkok and have rarely missed walking at a brisk pace everyday for 30 mins.

 

Oh, and the other problem I have is I am hyperthyroid since October last year, this is under control with medication.

 

I would never have thought that I would have  these problems only 3 years ago. I thank the Lord that I was fortunate enough to take out medical insurance when I did.

 

As other posters, I only have praise for Sheryl, such a knowledgeable, helpful and compassionate person - very difficult to find someone like this .

 

banK

 

 

 

banK , thanks for sharing your health experiences , it just shows that we never know when health related problems will materialize and if they do , the costs involved in treating them.

 

As I posted earlier I have had private health insurance for many years ,  but on several occasions I have been ridiculed by friends,  ( who do not have medical health insurance )   and ive been called foolish for paying insurance premiums over the many past years , especially as I have never made an insurance claim .   I was told  in no uncertain terms that it would have been better if I just deposited the same amount of money as the insurance premiums payments into a bank every year , then if I ever needed medical treatment , just draw the money from the bank.

 

I would like to hear your thoughts on your brisk daily 30 minutes treadmill walk ,  

 

Your comment '' I would never have thought that I would have these problems only 3 years ago ‘’  is view that make me and I suspect  many other people in our age range , think seriously about the benefits of health insurance.

 
I wish you a speedy recovery from the recent Hernia operation and good health to come .

 

[Once Bitten]

39 minutes ago, kenk24 said:

Hi Once, read most of the posts, but did not see anything about advising you to get a check-up and have a better idea of where you are at... I had always been sort of cavalier about statins, not liking drug companies, etc etc... but I finally was convinced by my doctor that it is really better to get my cholesterol down now any way that is possible as I am not likely to do it with diet alone. 

 

I have several friends in the 60+ area, who are running into problems. So far, ones that can be healed, but since none of us are going to live forever, we do need to look at the future realistically... I am also 60+ and the few things that I plan for may not be the bus that hits me... just have to try and eat better, be more active and keep ahead of the small stuff before it gets big... which means regular check-ups, as much as I do not like going to doctors... 

 

Be well... 

 

kenk24

 

Good advice ( eat better, be more active and keep ahead of the small stuff before it gets big ) .

 

It does seem we both would be ideal candidates to join the ExPat 60+ Club ,  and from reading through other posts on the subject , I’m sure there would be no shortage of members. Out of curiosity as some one who is a 60+ member ,  what's your general thoughts about being 60+ and mentally dealing with and coming to terms with what lies ahead , and the eventual certain out come , when the grim reaper knocks on your door.  Personally when I start to think about 60+ , I get a bit morbid .

 

 

[banK]

50 minutes ago, Once Bitten said:

 

banK , thanks for sharing your health experiences , it just shows that we never know when health related problems will materialize and if they do , the costs involved in treating them.

 

As I posted earlier I have had private health insurance for many years ,  but on several occasions I have been ridiculed by friends,  ( who do not have medical health insurance )   and ive been called foolish for paying insurance premiums over the many past years , especially as I have never made an insurance claim .   I was told  in no uncertain terms that it would have been better if I just deposited the same amount of money as the insurance premiums payments into a bank every year , then if I ever needed medical treatment , just draw the money from the bank.

 

I would like to hear your thoughts on your brisk daily 30 minutes treadmill walk ,  

 

Your comment '' I would never have thought that I would have these problems only 3 years ago ‘’  is view that make me and I suspect  many other people in our age range , think seriously about the benefits of health insurance.

 
I wish you a speedy recovery from the recent Hernia operation and good health to come .

 

I invested in a treadmill because no matter how hot or wet it is outside I could have a regular walk,  previous to my operations I used to walk 30mins or so outside but sometimes had to give it a miss due to the heat or rain.

 

I realise that the "walk" I do now is pretty important to my health, whereas before it wouldn't matter if I gave it a miss for a while. Also, a treadmill gives the option of variable speeds and inclines - it's not as boring as I thought it would be as you can have music as you walk! I generally keep the speed between 4.5-5kph - nothing strenuous and can generate a light sweat, afterwards take an electrolytic drink to rehydrate.

 

I try to stick with a diet that is good for my hyperthyroidism and along with treadmill I feel really healthy, especially considering my recent past. I am more conscience of leading a healthier life. 

 

My weight varies between 69-71kg usually hovers around 70kg. Lipids quite good, although my LDL is a bit high (usually between 138-150), total cholesterol between 175-195.

 

Since diagnosed with hyperthyroidism last October I have been keeping a graph of my lipids, free T3 and Free T4 . I find it very useful in charting how I am doing, if something goes out of range I can usually know what has caused it and can rectify it i.e not sticking to the diet. I get these blood tests done every 3 months when I see the endocrinologist,  or when I have the odd operation!! 

 

If I was still living in UK/France as I was 10 years ago - I feel that my health wouldn't have been as good as it is now. I suppose living on the edge out here in Thailand makes you take more responsibility for your health.

 

You have been eminently wise to have that health insurance, this business of putting away the equivalent each year and tap into it when needed and it being more cost effective is a fallacy. Look at my case - so far 3.2 million baht, you would not have put that into a "fund"  in 10 years.

One big hit and you could be wiped out - and what happens at the next incident. 

 

Thanks for "speedy recovery bit" - Although a 20cm slice down my abdomen the pain is just about gone.....

 

banK

[banK]

50 minutes ago, Once Bitten said:

 

banK , thanks for sharing your health experiences , it just shows that we never know when health related problems will materialize and if they do , the costs involved in treating them.

 

As I posted earlier I have had private health insurance for many years ,  but on several occasions I have been ridiculed by friends,  ( who do not have medical health insurance )   and ive been called foolish for paying insurance premiums over the many past years , especially as I have never made an insurance claim .   I was told  in no uncertain terms that it would have been better if I just deposited the same amount of money as the insurance premiums payments into a bank every year , then if I ever needed medical treatment , just draw the money from the bank.

 

I would like to hear your thoughts on your brisk daily 30 minutes treadmill walk ,  

 

Your comment '' I would never have thought that I would have these problems only 3 years ago ‘’  is view that make me and I suspect  many other people in our age range , think seriously about the benefits of health insurance.

 
I wish you a speedy recovery from the recent Hernia operation and good health to come .

 

I invested in a treadmill because no matter how hot or wet it is outside I could have a regular walk,  previous to my operations I used to walk 30mins or so outside but sometimes had to give it a miss due to the heat or rain.

 

I realise that the "walk" I do now is pretty important to my health, whereas before it wouldn't matter if I gave it a miss for a while. Also, a treadmill gives the option of variable speeds and inclines - it's not as boring as I thought it would be as you can have music as you walk! I generally keep the speed between 4.5-5kph - nothing strenuous and can generate a light sweat, afterwards take an electrolytic drink to rehydrate.

 

I try to stick with a diet that is good for my hyperthyroidism and along with treadmill I feel really healthy, especially considering my recent past. I am more conscience of leading a healthier life. 

 

My weight varies between 69-71kg usually hovers around 70kg. Lipids quite good, although my LDL is a bit high (usually between 138-150), total cholesterol between 175-195.

 

Since diagnosed with hyperthyroidism last October I have been keeping a graph of my lipids, free T3 and Free T4 . I find it very useful in charting how I am doing, if something goes out of range I can usually know what has caused it and can rectify it i.e not sticking to the diet. I get these blood tests done every 3 months when I see the endocrinologist,  or when I have the odd operation!! 

 

If I was still living in UK/France as I was 10 years ago - I feel that my health wouldn't have been as good as it is now. I suppose living on the edge out here in Thailand makes you take more responsibility for your health.

 

You have been eminently wise to have that health insurance, this business of putting away the equivalent each year and tap into it when needed and it being more cost effective is a fallacy. Look at my case - so far 3.2 million baht, you would not have put that into a "fund"  in 10 years.

One big hit and you could be wiped out - and what happens at the next incident. 

 

Thanks for "speedy recovery bit" - Although a 20cm slice down my abdomen the pain is just about gone.....

 

banK

[1FinickyOne]

8 hours ago, Once Bitten said:

 

kenk24

 

Good advice ( eat better, be more active and keep ahead of the small stuff before it gets big ) .

 

It does seem we both would be ideal candidates to join the ExPat 60+ Club ,  and from reading through other posts on the subject , I’m sure there would be no shortage of members. Out of curiosity as some one who is a 60+ member ,  what's your general thoughts about being 60+ and mentally dealing with and coming to terms with what lies ahead , and the eventual certain out come , when the grim reaper knocks on your door.  Personally when I start to think about 60+ , I get a bit morbid .

 

 

 

Did not know of an expat + 60 club, but I surely qualify - And yes, the thoughts can get morbid, depressing... but there they be... and it is an interesting time of life. Both of my parents suffered dementia, which meant that for about 10 years, I suffered their dementia too... and like death, it is something that we do not really have the ability to face, that someday, we will not have facility of mind and body... then what? Nobody wants to cede control of their decision making or finances.

 

I would say that there are positive things in my life too, things that have added meaning and a reason to want to stay healthy and endure. Though with retirement, comes some limits too and I have watched other friends and seen an inevitable narrowing of choices and options, sometimes choosing between bad and worse... 

 

plenty more to be said on the subject, but maybe not in a public forum...  

 

 

[homeseeker]

OP writes:

 

"Really I’m just wondering how others here in my age group who have had or experienced health problems while in Thailand,  coped , managed and came to terms with being over 60 years of age and having to face a possible uncertain medical future. "

 

Important in my view to embrace being over 60 and enjoy it as much as possible. Try to

 do sufficient exercise , eat healthily and attempt a stress free life.

Having or getting insurance is helpful.

 

Of course:

Unless one is very lucky health issues will arise for many  mature people. When health issues have arisen for me I have done my research (including posting questions on this forum) and usually eventually found the best specialist doctor who treats me as a patient and not a customer and each time has been capable of being of help.

A person needs to be prepared to sometimes travel to another city to get the best doctor.

Important when a health matter does arise to try to address it as soon as possible.

 

Of course no matter what age a person is everyone potentially faces an uncertain medical future, as there is no guarantee any of us will wake up in the morning.

Be smart and enjoy your life.

 

[Once Bitten]

10 hours ago, banK said:

I invested in a treadmill because no matter how hot or wet it is outside I could have a regular walk,  previous to my operations I used to walk 30mins or so outside but sometimes had to give it a miss due to the heat or rain.

 

I realise that the "walk" I do now is pretty important to my health, whereas before it wouldn't matter if I gave it a miss for a while. Also, a treadmill gives the option of variable speeds and inclines - it's not as boring as I thought it would be as you can have music as you walk! I generally keep the speed between 4.5-5kph - nothing strenuous and can generate a light sweat, afterwards take an electrolytic drink to rehydrate.

 

I try to stick with a diet that is good for my hyperthyroidism and along with treadmill I feel really healthy, especially considering my recent past. I am more conscience of leading a healthier life. 

 

My weight varies between 69-71kg usually hovers around 70kg. Lipids quite good, although my LDL is a bit high (usually between 138-150), total cholesterol between 175-195.

 

Since diagnosed with hyperthyroidism last October I have been keeping a graph of my lipids, free T3 and Free T4 . I find it very useful in charting how I am doing, if something goes out of range I can usually know what has caused it and can rectify it i.e not sticking to the diet. I get these blood tests done every 3 months when I see the endocrinologist,  or when I have the odd operation!! 

 

If I was still living in UK/France as I was 10 years ago - I feel that my health wouldn't have been as good as it is now. I suppose living on the edge out here in Thailand makes you take more responsibility for your health.

 

You have been eminently wise to have that health insurance, this business of putting away the equivalent each year and tap into it when needed and it being more cost effective is a fallacy. Look at my case - so far 3.2 million baht, you would not have put that into a "fund"  in 10 years.

One big hit and you could be wiped out - and what happens at the next incident. 

 

Thanks for "speedy recovery bit" - Although a 20cm slice down my abdomen the pain is just about gone.....

 

banK

 

The treadmill regime sounds an excellent addition to a good health arsenal , and is certainly some thing I am going to look at .  Interesting comment about your health being in a better state here in Thailand than back in UK/France , conversely ive seen comments that seem to imply that being in Thailand and all it has to offer , ( abundant cheap food / alcohol /  climate / relaxed laid back life style  )  some times only adds or increases the possibility of health issues .  

 

A couple of simple random thoughts , Ive met other older foreigners here in Thailand who were obviously over weight and after conversations with them , they either seemed oblivious to possible weight / health concerns , or their life style mantra was one of , eat drink and be merry and enjoy your self while you still can.

 

Ive personally had several younger friends who were life long good health enthusiasts , and they often commented that I should loose some weight and exercise .  They have all passed away due to health related issues ,

 

 

 

 

[Once Bitten]

4 hours ago, kenk24 said:

 

Did not know of an expat + 60 club, but I surely qualify - And yes, the thoughts can get morbid, depressing... but there they be... and it is an interesting time of life. Both of my parents suffered dementia, which meant that for about 10 years, I suffered their dementia too... and like death, it is something that we do not really have the ability to face, that someday, we will not have facility of mind and body... then what? Nobody wants to cede control of their decision making or finances.

 

I would say that there are positive things in my life too, things that have added meaning and a reason to want to stay healthy and endure. Though with retirement, comes some limits too and I have watched other friends and seen an inevitable narrowing of choices and options, sometimes choosing between bad and worse... 

 

plenty more to be said on the subject, but maybe not in a public forum...  

 

 

 

Sorry the expat 60+ club was a light hearted suggestion that it would be an excellent idea to form such a club ,

 

 

Dementia is only some thing ive read about in news articles ,  non of my family ever suffered from it , having said that , my mother passed away aged 46 due to breast cancer  . After my mother passed away my father worked hard for the rest of his life and never really took a holiday or remarried , he often said that when he retired he would use all the money he had saved over the past years to go on a world cruise and enjoy his retirement years , he passed away age 66 one year after he had retired , he never did take a holiday or get to go on his dream world cruise. he passed away due to a smoking related illness .

 

Being 60+ and facing the future can be a daunting prospect, personally I do try and keep a positive outlook , my family here are my life and they help me when I’m feeling a bit down . My recent discovery that I now have some age related problems has only heightened my concerns about the future and the what is ahead .

 

 

[Once Bitten]

1 hour ago, homeseeker said:

OP writes:

 

"Really I’m just wondering how others here in my age group who have had or experienced health problems while in Thailand,  coped , managed and came to terms with being over 60 years of age and having to face a possible uncertain medical future. "

 

Important in my view to embrace being over 60 and enjoy it as much as possible. Try to

 do sufficient exercise , eat healthily and attempt a stress free life.

Having or getting insurance is helpful.

 

Of course:

Unless one is very lucky health issues will arise for many  mature people. When health issues have arisen for me I have done my research (including posting questions on this forum) and usually eventually found the best specialist doctor who treats me as a patient and not a customer and each time has been capable of being of help.

A person needs to be prepared to sometimes travel to another city to get the best doctor.

Important when a health matter does arise to try to address it as soon as possible.

 

Of course no matter what age a person is everyone potentially faces an uncertain medical future, as there is no guarantee any of us will wake up in the morning.

Be smart and enjoy your life.

 

 

I’m finding mentally embracing being 60+ combined with now having age related health problems , a new up hill task to come to terms with , the sorting out a diet and exercise I can happily deal with.

 

I’m determined to try and stay positive.

 

 

 

[starfish]

1 hour ago, homeseeker said:

OP writes:

 

"Really I’m just wondering how others here in my age group who have had or experienced health problems while in Thailand,  coped , managed and came to terms with being over 60 years of age and having to face a possible uncertain medical future. "

 

Important in my view to embrace being over 60 and enjoy it as much as possible. Try to

 do sufficient exercise , eat healthily and attempt a stress free life.

Having or getting insurance is helpful.

 

Of course:

Unless one is very lucky health issues will arise for many  mature people. When health issues have arisen for me I have done my research (including posting questions on this forum) and usually eventually found the best specialist doctor who treats me as a patient and not a customer and each time has been capable of being of help.

A person needs to be prepared to sometimes travel to another city to get the best doctor.

Important when a health matter does arise to try to address it as soon as possible.

 

Of course no matter what age a person is everyone potentially faces an uncertain medical future, as there is no guarantee any of us will wake up in the morning.

Be smart and enjoy your life.

 

 

 

Damn, i´m in the 55 range, smoking and drinking (a little, well, a little to much), enjoying my life, just had a check up, all fine, and "lemmingly" paying my insurance every year. I hope they remember me in 5 years. But this thread reminds me, that can´t go on forever. Thanks.

[Sheryl]

The smoking in particular you should seriously address.

 

Maybe reading BanK's story will help..http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/880079-lung-cancer/

 

[starfish]

4 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

The smoking in particular you should seriously address.

 

Maybe reading BanK's story will help..http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/880079-lung-cancer/

 

 

Yeah, it´s stupid, i know. I´m trying to switch to E-Cig. it´s the better of two evils. Whats your opinion on e-cigs, Sheryl. Oh, i forgot, we´re not allowed to discuss illegal things here. But they would be so much help for thousands of Smokers !

[1FinickyOne]

39 minutes ago, Once Bitten said:

 

Sorry the expat 60+ club was a light hearted suggestion that it would be an excellent idea to form such a club ,

 

 

Dementia is only some thing ive read about in news articles ,  non of my family ever suffered from it , having said that , my mother passed away aged 46 due to breast cancer  . After my mother passed away my father worked hard for the rest of his life and never really took a holiday or remarried , he often said that when he retired he would use all the money he had saved over the past years to go on a world cruise and enjoy his retirement years , he passed away age 66 one year after he had retired , he never did take a holiday or get to go on his dream world cruise. he passed away due to a smoking related illness .

 

Being 60+ and facing the future can be a daunting prospect, personally I do try and keep a positive outlook , my family here are my life and they help me when I’m feeling a bit down . My recent discovery that I now have some age related problems has only heightened my concerns about the future and the what is ahead .

 

 

 

I have made a hobby of helping people retire... and the story of your dad is quite typical. People have retirement dreams when they are younger... but they are younger people dreams. A 40 year olds dreams are not necessarily a tired 65+ persons ideal reality... There are many things that change as we get older, especially goals and dreams... 

 

I had a cancer scare at age 48 - fortunately it came out ok, but there was 6 months of not being sure. It was actually a very peaceful and relaxing and interesting time for me as I learned appreciation and acceptance. I decided to retire then, at 48... and have mostly been here since then. 

 

It is great that you have a caring family, as I do too... I am raising an 11 yr old - this helps too. She is used to having me around and does not know a world without me. 

 

As to dementia, it is rarely a sudden disease - it is a very gradual progression and often times, harder for the family than the individual. My dad was a powerful businessman and being in control was the strongest concern/memory that he had and he did not give it up without a fight... and I am not a fighter, so, it was hell for me. Imagine, in terms of drivers license. 

 

But, there are many difficult issues for us as we get older. If incapacitated, who will make decisions as to your health care? In USA, we have power of attorney, so we can appoint someone to act in matters of health and finance... 

 

Well, not cheerful stuff, but as we say -  have a nice day. 

[evilebxxx]

On ‎9‎/‎27‎/‎2016 at 9:46 PM, lopburi3 said:

What is in the past can not be changed so probably best to just try to take better care of our/your/self now.  Lipids are more of a danger if there is family history of blockage but probably good for everyone to keep at a reasonable level.  You may want to take a cheap EKG for basic heart test and if any question a stress test (can be physical or medical for those of us out of shape).  Most of us also have blood pressure issues and home testing I have found to be vital to accurate information (it is not just pretty girls causing BP to increase - those white coats are often the cause).  Prostate is also a common problem - but my partial removal was because of cancer in bladder.   Many of us will also have skin cancer issues and this is something we need to be proactive about as most doctors here do not consider cancer as likely.  Routine blood test from an internist used to treating older folks can also be helpful 

 

OK for the bad stress test found blockage and had two stents about 5 years ago - still good and with LDL in 80 range may last some more time.

For bad thyroid with suspect mass had removed - one pill a day takes care of that for last 5 years.

For skin cancer try to keep ahead and remove when found.  Mine has been slow growing types so not a big issue.

For blood in urine cancer found in bladder and removed several months ago.  Bladder appears to have been a good container keeping it in one place.  One never knows what tomorrow brings but for now life is still good and we adapt.

and your age is 76+ ? - me at 65 nothing at all - none health problem at all

[lopburi3]

Actually you have aged me a couple years but at 65 I also had never had more than a minor skin cancer and cyst removals.  Time tends to compress as we age; and age takes its toll.  

[evilebxxx]

9 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

Actually you have aged me a couple years but at 65 I also had never had more than a minor skin cancer and cyst removals.  Time tends to compress as we age; and age takes its toll.  

Sorry for a hour of real time aging – which counts only

[Scotwight]

Heart problem fixed at private hospital 200,000 baht.  Gave up smoking and drinking - Dr's orders.  Gained weight and trying to lose weight now.  Lunch is fruit and vegetables mixed in a blender with ice and protein powder or some other protein source like yogurt.   Met a number of veterans on line who have helped me with my military disability.  I think my health care is better here than it would be at a VA hospital in the States and cheaper for the US government.   I do aerobic exercises when in the mood and walk the dog twice a day.

[Gary A]

Having previously had two strokes, I worry about a serious crippling stroke. I go to the local hospital every three months for a checkup and blood test. I do have a problem with high triglycerides. They have been coming down over the past year but I do need more exercise.