webfact Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Doi Suthep's "adorable thieves" story is a load of rubbish say accused hill tribe folk Image: Sanook CHIANG MAI: -- The family of the hill tribe girl accused of stealing a wrist watch during a Doi Suthep photo shoot has said the paper is talking rubbish. And the village elder backed up their claims saying the seven year old was a good girl who would not do such a thing, reported Sanook. The girl in question is from the Hmong group of hill tribe people on Mang Doi Pui. Along with many others from the village they earn extra money at weekends and in the school holidays by posing with tourists at the steps of Chiang Mai's famous hillside temple. Cops called the parents and phoo yai ban into the Chiang Mai tourist police HQ after the Daily Mail story hit the news. Mum Lulu, 37, said it was nonsense. Neither her daughter or her other child also in the picture would do such a thing. Phoo yai ban Methaphan Feuangfookitkarn said they were good kids, besides they were clearly holding the hand of the female tourist - believed to be English - as children do and were certainly not intent on stealing anything. Police are examining CCTV footage to see if the tourist still had the watch on after coming down from the trip up the temple steps. No charges have been laid in the matter. The story has been reported around the world by news outlets including the Daily Mail, Daily Telegraph, New Zealand Herald, Yahoo News and New York Post. Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-09-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saraphee Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 42 minutes ago, webfact said: Police are examining CCTV footage to see if the tourist still had the watch on after coming down from the trip up the temple steps. And will we get to hear the results? - either way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 The hill tribe girl is a good girl, if you believe that you will believe anything. My wife and i lived in a hill tribe village near Mai Hong Son 4/5 years ago. My wife was appointed school director. Nothing was safe from the children NOTHING. We even had a loaf of bread stolen out of our personal kitchen, nobody only wife and me should be in there. I used to leave small change on a table in our bedroom, 1 day a boy climbed in the window and stole money. We saw the children eating sweets, so enquired where they got the money from (as the children never had money) We were told which boy, his answer was you have money i not have so i take for me and my friends. So i do not believe 1 word about what is said in this report. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Isn't denial a typical Thai thing, maybe related to saving face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Deny, deny, deny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulder12345 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Just for kicks i'd go and watch them for a half day. See if they try any tricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 43 minutes ago, Colabamumbai said: Isn't denial a typical Thai thing, maybe related to saving face. It would seem not to be the case. The previous poster gave the example of when confronted even a small boy would own up to stealing the small change, no lying there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSiemReaper Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 It is vital when considering this matter to ensure that you add a touch of racist abuse towards all Hill tribe people before convicting these two little girls via internet telepathy. All they are guaranteed to be guilty of is posing for a photograph with a tourist who was happy to exploit them for her holiday tales "look at the adorable people we met in their special costumes". Anything else is pure conjecture and has been from the moment this story began to run. Accusing people of theft based on a photo where they aren't stealing anything is straight up wrong. Everybody involved in this apart from the 2 kids should be ashamed of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieBaBaBoBo Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Reicarnation of Cleopatra, Queen of d' Nile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebrown Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 19 minutes ago, IAMHERE said: It would seem not to be the case. The previous poster gave the example of when confronted even a small boy would own up to stealing the small change, no lying there. It seems the 'HERE' part of 'IAMHERE" isn't in LOS. I've had money stolen from me by an 8 yr old boy, who was the son of my Thai g/f. He denied stealing even while his mother was 'frisking' him in front of me, and continued to do so as the stolen money was being emptied from his pockets. The importance of 'face' keeps this country in a constant stat of denial! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcpattaya Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Would you expect the parents to say that they keep a whole collection from Rolex to Breitling?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I see that the story was reported by many of the world's (credible - ) news outlets including the Daily Mail, Daily Telegraph, New Zealand Herald, Yahoo News and New York Post. Of course they got both sides of the story and substantiated everything before going to print. Must have been a slow news' day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 ...hasn't the woman clearly stated that her watch went missing....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandgroper2 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 59 minutes ago, TheSiemReaper said: It is vital when considering this matter to ensure that you add a touch of racist abuse towards all Hill tribe people before convicting these two little girls via internet telepathy. All they are guaranteed to be guilty of is posing for a photograph with a tourist who was happy to exploit them for her holiday tales "look at the adorable people we met in their special costumes". Anything else is pure conjecture and has been from the moment this story began to run. Accusing people of theft based on a photo where they aren't stealing anything is straight up wrong. Everybody involved in this apart from the 2 kids should be ashamed of themselves. Totally agree. Its sinful for tourists to exploit the poor Hill tribe people by giving them money to buy food etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveat Emptor Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 What's next, a story of an honest taxi driver handing in a very expensive watch someone left in his cab ? It will be an airport taxi with suitable photo and thumbs up poses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesterm Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 hours ago, colinneil said: The hill tribe girl is a good girl, if you believe that you will believe anything. My wife and i lived in a hill tribe village near Mai Hong Son 4/5 years ago. My wife was appointed school director. Nothing was safe from the children NOTHING. We even had a loaf of bread stolen out of our personal kitchen, nobody only wife and me should be in there. I used to leave small change on a table in our bedroom, 1 day a boy climbed in the window and stole money. We saw the children eating sweets, so enquired where they got the money from (as the children never had money) We were told which boy, his answer was you have money i not have so i take for me and my friends. So i do not believe 1 word about what is said in this report. Yup. It's so easy for them to say the report is "rubbish", anyone can say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helloagain Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, TheSiemReaper said: It is vital when considering this matter to ensure that you add a touch of racist abuse towards all Hill tribe people before convicting these two little girls via internet telepathy. All they are guaranteed to be guilty of is posing for a photograph with a tourist who was happy to exploit them for her holiday tales "look at the adorable people we met in their special costumes". Anything else is pure conjecture and has been from the moment this story began to run. Accusing people of theft based on a photo where they aren't stealing anything is straight up wrong. Everybody involved in this apart from the 2 kids should be ashamed of themselves. Sorry is one hand not holding the ladies hand and the other on her watch strap ????? How do police know it was reported in the daily mail ???? Its banned in this country ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helloagain Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 15 minutes ago, sandgroper2 said: Totally agree. Its sinful for tourists to exploit the poor Hill tribe people by giving them money to buy food etc. Yes hill tribe put themselves there to get money........good business on their part i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Saraphee said: And will we get to hear the results? - either way? we should since the matter is out in the open now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 some of us have bee unfair in making comments without knowing the other side of the story. hope the matter will be cleared and the children can go on entertaining the visitors as they are doing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 11 minutes ago, helloagain said: Sorry is one hand not holding the ladies hand and the other on her watch strap ????? How do police know it was reported in the daily mail ???? Its banned in this country ???? it does not conclusively prove that the same child removed the watch from the tourist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 21 minutes ago, mesterm said: Yup. It's so easy for them to say the report is "rubbish", anyone can say that. mesterm how does your story prove that the child in the picture is guilty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJO Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, TheSiemReaper said: It is vital when considering this matter to ensure that you add a touch of racist abuse towards all Hill tribe people before convicting these two little girls via internet telepathy. All they are guaranteed to be guilty of is posing for a photograph with a tourist who was happy to exploit them for her holiday tales "look at the adorable people we met in their special costumes". Anything else is pure conjecture and has been from the moment this story began to run. Accusing people of theft based on a photo where they aren't stealing anything is straight up wrong. Everybody involved in this apart from the 2 kids should be ashamed of themselves. I agree wholeheartedly. And I for one would support suing the tourist who also admits she was drunk at the time, for defamation. There is no proof whatsoever, & as another person posted, it is normal for little children to fiddle with adult's hands, rings, watches etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 38 minutes ago, SOTIRIOS said: ...hasn't the woman clearly stated that her watch went missing....??? but where? that is the point no one wants to keep in mind.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 3 hours ago, colinneil said: The hill tribe girl is a good girl, if you believe that you will believe anything. My wife and i lived in a hill tribe village near Mai Hong Son 4/5 years ago. My wife was appointed school director. Nothing was safe from the children NOTHING. As one who has spent far more time than you, or most others, living with the hill people I sincerely hope that you and your wife are no longer involved with the schooling of hill people or any other children for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alofthailand Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Shame on the TV bullies who have sunk to a new low with their slandering and bullying of kids. And shame on the English family who shamed and vilified children who could not fight back. Disgusting behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaBoy Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aslimversgwm Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Colabamumbai said: Isn't denial a typical Thai thing, maybe related to saving face. They are NOT Thai they are Hmong - a quite distinct and separate ethnic group with their own language, culture and customs, and they are not all thieves. Once again were getting blatant racist comments on here. Moderators please act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallagada Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 minute ago, PattayaBoy said: What evidences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aslimversgwm Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Tallagada said: What evidences? there is no evidence whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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