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Thai police visiting foreigners at home, asking for yet more personal info via new controversial form

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14 minutes ago, MeHere said:

Looks like a typical census form

Yes, it's probably designed as a base for a census. 

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What are you all complaining about? Many western governments are doing exactly the same for many years now, mostly not in a such obvious way as visiting homes but in many other ways. The American government has been screening phone calls for years, as well as emails. For few years now they demand all other governments to disclose any and all financial information as well as property holdings of Americans and green card holders off shore. 

In Thailand so far there has been no control of foreigners staying here. Many TV members (well, mostly it's friends of...) are overstaying their visas, many work without legal permit, even more are exploiting the visa exempt program by doing visa runs for years. I am pretty sure that already many years ago Thailand was a good place for criminals to hide in, but according to many news articles reported here on TV, seems there are too many of those bad guys here nowadays, and taking measure to get it under control is good for all those staying here legally.

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They came to my apartment in plain clothes 7 years ago and did a check. Took photos and asked for passport. Not a problem for me. I would not like to fill out a long form but am not a criminal or doing illegal business here like a lot of expats. Don't like it? Go home. Skin color? Well we know what Thais like. 

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3 minutes ago, LukKrueng said:

What are you all complaining about? Many western governments are doing exactly the same for many years now, mostly not in a such obvious way as visiting homes but in many other ways. The American government has been screening phone calls for years, as well as emails. For few years now they demand all other governments to disclose any and all financial information as well as property holdings of Americans and green card holders off shore. 

In Thailand so far there has been no control of foreigners staying here. Many TV members (well, mostly it's friends of...) are overstaying their visas, many work without legal permit, even more are exploiting the visa exempt program by doing visa runs for years. I am pretty sure that already many years ago Thailand was a good place for criminals to hide in, but according to many news articles reported here on TV, seems there are too many of those bad guys here nowadays, and taking measure to get it under control is good for all those staying here legally.

Yes.. I am sure the hardened criminals living here will be very truthful with their personal information when filling in these forms.  Its going to make catching them SO much easier to catch them whey they actually write they are a criminal for their occupation. 

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4 minutes ago, LukKrueng said:

What are you all complaining about? Many western governments are doing exactly the same for many years now, mostly not in a such obvious way as visiting homes but in many other ways. The American government has been screening phone calls for years, as well as emails. For few years now they demand all other governments to disclose any and all financial information as well as property holdings of Americans and green card holders off shore. 

In Thailand so far there has been no control of foreigners staying here. Many TV members (well, mostly it's friends of...) are overstaying their visas, many work without legal permit, even more are exploiting the visa exempt program by doing visa runs for years. I am pretty sure that already many years ago Thailand was a good place for criminals to hide in, but according to many news articles reported here on TV, seems there are too many of those bad guys here nowadays, and taking measure to get it under control is good for all those staying here legally.

 

Your exaggerations, generalizations and rationalizations are good enough for me.  Where can I get this form?  I'm ready to confess.

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What are you all complaining about? Many western governments are doing exactly the same for many years now, mostly not in a such obvious way as visiting homes but in many other ways. The American government has been screening phone calls for years, as well as emails. For few years now they demand all other governments to disclose any and all financial information as well as property holdings of Americans and green card holders off shore. 
In Thailand so far there has been no control of foreigners staying here. Many TV members (well, mostly it's friends of...) are overstaying their visas, many work without legal permit, even more are exploiting the visa exempt program by doing visa runs for years. I am pretty sure that already many years ago Thailand was a good place for criminals to hide in, but according to many news articles reported here on TV, seems there are too many of those bad guys here nowadays, and taking measure to get it under control is good for all those staying here legally.


That's fine. But what are the accomplishing with this? Surely the multiple visa runs could be sorted at the border. Overstay is an issue yes but what it seems happen is the people doing the wrong thing don't bother with 90 days etc. what information are they gathering that they haven't already gathered? It's a pointless waste of time.

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5 minutes ago, IAMHERE said:

what is the color of a caucasian? White it isn't.

 

I'm pink sometimes, but brownish at others, perhaps i should complete two different forms ? :rolleyes:

 

Nationality  ...  chameleon ? :biggrin:

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Just now, jak2002003 said:

Yes.. I am sure the hardened criminals living here will be very truthful with their personal information when filling in these forms.  Its going to make catching them SO much easier to catch them whey they actually write they are a criminal for their occupation. 

 

I think you kinda miss the point. So far no one ever visited them nor tried to check out what they do here. Now if the police is coming knocking on their doors from time to time, it's not going to be as much fun and as easy as it used to be. I assume that eventually at least some of the information will be crossed referenced against other data bases such as immigration, labor department etc' and so Thailand might become too "western" for such people and maybe they'll move to Indonesia, Malaysia, Cambodia or anywhere which is not here

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Name, DOB, Nationality, Passport etc..... um, get it from immigration

Parents and Childrens names from another country.... um, how about emergency foreign contact instead?

Name of Husband/Wife... if Thai they know already, if not Thai and they are in Thailand probably fair enough to establish the connection, if not Thai and they aren't in Thailand then they should probably be the emergency contact

Education... not sure how this relevant? if employed here they know already, if not employed it's not relevant

Physical Appearence... you've got a passport photo, you've got photos of us standing in front of our 'numbered' letter boxes... um, get that from immigration too

 

Seems to me the only relevant information which isn't already available to them is an emergency foreign contact, something they aren't even asking for. Unless that's why they want your parents.... and I'd take a guess that there is a fairly high percentage of foreigners here which have already farewelled mum and dad from this world.

 

I don't mind providing info required... but I bloody hate having to rewrite it ten thousand times just because two government departments are too useless to talk to each other!

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This is going too far, ..... I ... like many farang are choosing to relocate because of this prejudicial treatment we are receiving, while Russians and Chinese are being begged to come. They do not like Thai culture, customs, food, language or even the people, they come because this is the easiest country for them to visit.

 

Thailand will eventually see what a huge mistake that is being made. Farang respect Thai culture and customs, eat Thai food and attempt to learn the language. Go to any village in Isaan and you will find a farang, supporting a Thai family. You will never find a Russian or Chinaman doing that. They only go to tourist places, mainly the beaches and are taking over those areas.

 

I was here 11 years and fully intended to stay forever, but I am out of here next week ... never to return!

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Most foreigners coming here have ample income whereas so many Thais are struggling. Everyone has a relative back 'home' who is financially challenged; would you show up at their door looking to stay and eat free or not have any house rules? Do you understand where I am going here? Fill out the dam form and be done with it. So much whinging. My guess is that your family told you to hit the road.

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4 hours ago, Fookhaht said:

Digitize your forms and just change the date.  Takes about 2 minutes, including the printing.  

 

If one can handle posting on a forum, one could handle that little bit of high-tech, can't we?   

Please send instructions how to digitise the form . I haven't a clue. I know how to scan it into my 'puter, but then what?

I only worked in IT for 25 years but having retired in 2008 'digitising' forms wasn't readily available then - it really wasn't!

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Most foreigners coming here have ample income whereas so many Thais are struggling. Everyone has a relative back 'home' who is financially challenged; would you show up at their door looking to stay and eat free or not have any house rules? Do you understand where I am going here? Fill out the dam form and be done with it. So much whinging. My guess is that your family told you to hit the road.

It's the "and be done with it" that doesn't seem to be done with. Understand where I'm going?

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