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It’s actually happening: Pattaya-Hua Hin ferry to begin on Jan 1st


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11 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

Town, maybe but they could drive up the coast a bit….pkk etc.

Last time I was there the line of cars into HH from both sides was longer than I could see.  Unreal.  PKK would be down the coast?  A fair drive, so you'd really need a car. 

 

I'm guessing if they do add cars it's going to be fairly expensive????

 

Anybody know where they will dock and disembark passengers?

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8 minutes ago, optad said:

THe numbers suggested are as laughable as curing ebola.

 

27 kn is almost 50km/hr. 

A brisk cruising speed is 15kns  or about 26 kms/hr. As the crow flies, 113 km it is well over 4 hours notwithstanding docking etc. 

 

I suspect, this will fail like the last incantation around 2012. It will be quicker by car and then you have the convenience. Until they get a lightning vehicle ferry, this will never work regardless of price.

 

http://www.huahinmedia.com/huahinferry.php

A sea passage has been tried at least two times. Two times failed. Reason? No passengers. This does not bore well for the future...

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39 minutes ago, rixalex said:

4 hours sounds ambitious. 4 1/2 - 5 hours accounting for traffic sounds more realistic.

 

I make the trip regularly, as long as you don't hit the tolls at peak times on the ring road, steady 100-120kph, then 4 hours is easily achievable. Costs about 1500THB in fuel.

 

Cant see much in the way with savings in time,  factor in taxis at either end with a captive market and cant see much in the way of savings in cost either,  If you have a family then having a car at the other end really helps. Maybe the real benefit will be for those without transport who can afford something better than the bus, but can they sustain it?

 

That said, I hope it is a success, its good to have an extra option.

 

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I make the trip regularly, as long as you don't hit the tolls at peak times on the ring road, steady 100-120kph, then 4 hours is easily achievable. Costs about 1500THB in fuel.
 
Cant see much in the way with savings in time,  factor in taxis at either end with a captive market and cant see much in the way of savings in cost either,  If you have a family then having a car at the other end really helps. Maybe the real benefit will be for those without transport who can afford something better than the bus, but can they sustain it?
 
That said, I hope it is a success, its good to have an extra option.
 

1500 Bht in fuel in 4 hrs.?.


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1 hour ago, smedly said:

passengers only ? sounds like a - try it and see

 

This will be a failure because passenger only service is useless.....either go for it or don't

 

This service needs to support vehicles for which there is a huge market IMO - they are just not smart enough to see it

 

Human life is cheaper to insure than the supercars in the video should something not hold water.

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I did worked on a similar type of vessel in Canada as a marine engineer and still one to this day even being retired. What we used was a ship with pontoons like Catamaran with over 200 passengers and it was very stable even in cross waves we had huge Caterpillar engine two of them for the power and of course turbine propulsion.

Not familiar with Thai way of sailing but this catamaran type of ship should be used for more stable and enjoyable ride.

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1 hour ago, smedly said:

passengers only ? sounds like a - try it and see

 

This will be a failure because passenger only service is useless.....either go for it or don't

 

This service needs to support vehicles for which there is a huge market IMO - they are just not smart enough to see it

 

I think its two very different visitor demographics that go to pattaya and hua hin, I doubt many will need or want to go to both places on the same trip.

 

I think vehicle transport and even if postal services can make use of it would be beneficial to the operator.

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It's not really happening. What is happening is the normal Thai reaction to someone with a plan to make money - copy it! They are not using a hi-speed catamaran that carries vehicles. They (I presume) are using the POS in the featured photo. Tried Googling Royal Passenger Liner Co & nada, zip, zilch. So what ship & what is their record of operating a ferry service - apart from being the only one to apply for a licence ROFL.

Did an image search on Google & surprise! From 6th November 2010, the exact same picture! 

Ferry landing to drift at sea. Unable to land it. Because waves above two meters

Surat - Surat Thani, the waves are also a concern. Last ferry service Ferry. Koh Samui - Surat Kings Ferry Company Limited has stopped in the afternoon, three flights indefinitely. 
The correspondent reported that the waves of the province. All day ago today (Nov. 6), big wave still raging attack from the coastal fishing village. Tha Chana district and Chaiya. Donsak continued. Damage to homes, a lot of people. On the afternoon of the past.Ferry service Ferry Koh Samui - Surat Kings Ferry Company Limited has announced a three-stop sailing trip in the afternoon indefinitely. The sea currents push Wave height of over two meters, the ship can not dock. The car remains the number one berth. 

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15 minutes ago, mike324 said:

 

I think its two very different visitor demographics that go to pattaya and hua hin, I doubt many will need or want to go to both places on the same trip.

 

I think vehicle transport and even if postal services can make use of it would be beneficial to the operator.

I don't think it is about going to either Pattaya or Hua Hin, it creates a huge shortcut if you want to go on a trip further a field - I just hate having to go anywhere near Bangkok

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1 hour ago, craigt3365 said:

Last time I was there the line of cars into HH from both sides was longer than I could see.  Unreal.  PKK would be down the coast?  A fair drive, so you'd really need a car. 

 

I'm guessing if they do add cars it's going to be fairly expensive????

 

Anybody know where they will dock and disembark passengers?

Seeing as its only passengers, maybe the ferry company has done a deal with some banana boat operators to pick up passengers 100 metres or so off the beach

No docking charges :whistling:

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They need to load at least motorcycles to attract the Thais.

 

Who is going to be using this service?

 

One beach resort to another, both with decent road connections to Bangkok.

 

The HH Randy Old Men brigade are unlikely to put up with at least eight hours travelling for a round day trip to visit Soi 6, which would only work if the boat started in HH. Neither HH nor Pattaya are on the backpacker circuit, which is either heading north to or south to the islands.

 

It will be a failure......

 

Unless I have missed a huge potential customer base.

 

Maybe they could run a casino and load up a few girls from Pattaya with some private massage rooms, hem hem. 

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I used it twice before. It saved time. but most importantly it allowed by ex wife to use my car while I was in Pattaya. Made it easier for her to get to those out of the way hidden card houses. 

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1 hour ago, smedly said:

I don't think it is about going to either Pattaya or Hua Hin, it creates a huge shortcut if you want to go on a trip further a field - I just hate having to go anywhere near Bangkok

 

 You are right, I overlook that part. But it would add quite a bit to the trip price.

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Hong Kong - Macao ferry is about 60 kms and takes a tad over one hour. Done it twice. The ferries leave every fifteen minutes and cost about 30aud. That is about half the distance, a third of the old price and a quarter of the time and fifty times the frequency!!!!

 

So the Pattaya to HH ferry can be done. .......... It just that the thais do infrastructure differently. lol!

 

The above does high the difference too in that SAR region and Thailand. I like that about LOS. Total madness in south china but they do make anything possible. I don't mind it when things don't really work. Just me.

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