Kwasaki Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 16 hours ago, mortenaa said: There are a couple of motorway stretches in Bangkok, with no turns, great surface, no cars at night and great lightning, which makes it perfect for testing out your car. Yeah UK too always somewhere and accelerating to 200 kph ain't that fast what 125 mph, lots of motorbikes can do that 2nd. Overtaking on some roads and in some situation is a safety factor to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotsira Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 54 minutes ago, Ahab said: It is my understanding that the higher the horsepower the higher the taxes on the vehicle. Low HP is more economical for the majority of Thai's that own cars. Not sure about that, i understood it that the higher taxes are based on cubic capacity of the engine, not the BHP it produces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiniyow Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 New Toyota Hilux is rated at 150 HP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdaz Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 As far as I know taxes are based on HP, Cubic capacity and CO2 emmisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 You want to travel beyond 200 kms. an hour. Learn the song "Lord I'm Coming Home" first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 22 minutes ago, kiniyow said: New Toyota Hilux is rated at 150 HP 2.4 is 150hp....2.8 is 177hp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiver Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 The day I arrived in Thailand was the day I lost interest in owning a F355. I had a look to see how much a Type R Civic or something would be for a more normal car. No Have. I shifted to what I never thought I would become - High profile squishy tyres and often thinking that the speed limit was too high in places (prior to that in UK every journey was a Cannon Ball run, always on the metal. Maybe I'm just older and my Testosterone (the stupidity hormone) is waning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Ahab said: It is my understanding that the higher the horsepower the higher the taxes on the vehicle. Low HP is more economical for the majority of Thai's that own cars. The taxes must really be steep for higher horsepower. My thinking stops at the point where I try to figure out how they can afford the new vehicles in the first place. I usually stop at the store next door and buy a beer and sit down at the bench in front and watch the world of new cars go by and it truly amazes me. Guess its my old school thinking way back when. I had no credit history so my uncle co-signed for the loan for my first USED car and I faithfully paid it back. I often wonder when the credit merry go round will come crashing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 6 hours ago, Grubster said: I like to have enough power to pass so I got the 3.0 engine in my truck, but it amazes me how many would spend a couple million baht for a race car to drive on a dirt road What sort of race car are they buying ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubster Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, Don Mega said: What sort of race car are they buying ? Small fast cars with big engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, Grubster said: Small fast cars with big engines. Ohh ok, so not race cars at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubster Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Don Mega said: Ohh ok, so not race cars at all. I can't imagine why else you would buy a car capable of tripling the speed limit in ten seconds. If you drive that fast I would call it racing even if its just against your own ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just now, Grubster said: I can't imagine why else you would buy a car capable of tripling the speed limit in ten seconds. If you drive that fast I would call it racing even if its just against your own ego. Ohh ok, bwahahahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 16 hours ago, In the jungle said: Yes, exactly. At 3.00am or 4.00am perhaps on the right road. Why? One reason would be to get to your destination quicker. a heavenly destination I suppose... hope you go it alone and don't take another in less of a hurry... or an innocent kid who had nothing to gain by your need to arrive more quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Just look at the death toll already. Who needs more horse power? Do you want to erase a whole population? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Dave Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 WOW! 200 KPH.I once got up to 60 mph in my old dad's Morris 1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 17 hours ago, In the jungle said: Yes, exactly. At 3.00am or 4.00am perhaps on the right road. Why? One reason would be to get to your destination quicker. If only all the vehicles had working tail lights. Overdrive your visibility at your own peril. Unfortunately, none of us drives in a vacuum, and the people we kill may not be us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Low horsepower to go with low driving ability/intelligence of many drivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey4u Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 If the speed limit is 90, why would you want to drive at 200 There are more than enough idiots lined up waiting to die with the cars available now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 hour ago, transam said: 2.4 is 150hp....2.8 is 177hp... That is SFA, particularly if hauling a load. But still dangerous for any idiot driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdgbb Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 hours ago, irwinfc said: without breaking the law? there are speed limits, you know? and the limits are way below 200kph "...there are speed limits, you know?" Wow. What does it feel like to be maybe the only person never to have exceeded a speed limit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSJPC Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 probably in an attempt to keep their drivers alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 On 22/11/2016 at 1:30 PM, monkey4u said: If the speed limit is 90, why would you want to drive at 200 There are more than enough idiots lined up waiting to die with the cars available now 200K is only 120MPH. Not that fast for short periods. More fun at 300K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 120 mph on Thai roads is very fast considering the things that other drivers do,potholes,dog's,buffalo,elephants etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdaz Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Another point the the go-slow gonads fail to appreciate is that most of the speed limits here in Thailand and in the West were devised years ago. In the UK the 30mph limit was introduced in the 1930. The 70mph limit in 1965. Cars have come a long way since then. Back then regular family cars struggled to exceed 80mph and having a car that could do "a ton" (100mph) was a big thing. drum brakes, no servo assistance, no airbags, no driver aids or sensors, no ABS or traction control. Many of todays cars can exceed the max speed limit in 2nd gear. They also stop in a far shorter distance and have had huge improvements in passive and active safety features. So cars are far more capable nowadays. Especially sports cars and high performance sedans and SUVs. That for me is one of the main reasons to buy a "performance" car. No just better acceleration and top speed but better braking performance, better steering, better suspension, better tires and far more technology. ABS, multiple airbags ( not just one for the driver ) various driving modes to suit different conditions and intelligent suspension. To me a "sports" car or performance SUV ( Thinking Porsche Macan/Cayenne or Audi Q7 not a Fortuna ) is just a much safer bet. If I have to face an emergency situation I'd rather have a vehicle powerful and nimble enough to avoid a crash and if not well designed enough to protect its occupants. Some years ago I was inquiring as to why a Toyota truck only had one airbag ? The salesgirls response was, "Thai people not interested in safety" Either that or they just don't want to or can't afford to pay for it. Not much different to riding a motorbike with a crappy cheap helmet. So having a powerful car isn't about wanting to exceed the speed limit. Yes I know I can but Somchai in his shi77y old pick-up can too. It's about driving pleasure, safety and comfort and knowing that at moderate speed the car is well within it's designed limits and performance zone. Not something you can say of a 10yr old pick-up being driven at 140kph on a wet road by a poorly trained local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahab Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 On 11/21/2016 at 6:07 PM, sotsira said: Not sure about that, i understood it that the higher taxes are based on cubic capacity of the engine, not the BHP it produces. You might be right, but for most stock vehicles HP roughly correlates with cubic inches of displacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 The previous Thai excise tax structure varied with displacement plus a max rate applied for power over 220hp. The current system is based on CO2 emissions with a max rate imposed over 3.0 or 3.25L displacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotsira Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 On 11/28/2016 at 3:13 AM, Ahab said: You might be right, but for most stock vehicles HP roughly correlates with cubic inches of displacement. Not when you consider the amount of HP turbocharged and supercharged engines have compared with their displacement. The new Civic RS is 1498cc with 173BHP It would be interesting to know which tax bracket they would fall in to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax2 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 On 11/25/2016 at 5:46 PM, johng said: 120 mph on Thai roads is very fast considering the things that other drivers do,potholes,dog's,buffalo, elephants etc etc Really not safe to drive at 120mph in thailand fastest i have ever driven here is on the road between the boat terminal at Surat Thani and Krabi before people started to build along it, a long straight road like you find in North West Australia Drove at a maximum of 135kph/85 mph , still had the occasional motorbike or dog appear from nowhere which you had to slow down quickly to avoid hitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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