webfact Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Koh Tao Alarmed By Growing Trash Pile By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter - An aerial view of the rubbish pile on Koh Tao. KOH TAO — The island once known for its picturesque diving spots and laid-back beach scene is at the risk of being overwhelmed by the ever-increasing pile of garbage. The alarm was sounded Monday by Koh Tao’s kamnan Kobchai Saowalak as he led Surat Thani governor to visit the site of the rubbish mountain at the island’s disused trash incinerator plant. He called upon the mainland authorities to take action before the garbage caused irreversible damage to Koh Tao’s environment. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/environment/2016/11/21/koh-tao-alarmed-growing-trash-pile/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2016-11-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 just another example of the greedy mindset - take take take but not willing to spend 1 baht on the environmental mess they create, aren't all the Islands the same - isn't there a very obvious problem that has been going on for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 "disused trash incinerator plant." How about..... buying a new incinerator, one that can be used to generate electricity to help make the island a bit more self sufficient? A far better option than investing in a 3 rai landfill. Which will eventually become full. So the problem is just booted down the road and will re appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 karma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Just paint it green and it'll blend in fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 52 minutes ago, edwinchester said: Just paint it green and it'll blend in fine. I do not think that will mask the smell though... Or the pollution when some enterprising "salvager" set fire to the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinot Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Is there an incinerator in Thailand that works? Like everything else from airline safety to fishing stocks, Thais are never going to do anything about the terrible environmental problems until they have to...or it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitker Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 We all know for long there is a serious trash issue on this island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 This is the greatest threat to Thai tourism - even greater than the mafia and crazy roads. Hopefully the government wakes up and starts policing offenders properly and harshly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaZa9 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Samui is the same except the trash pile is way way bigger ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12DrinkMore Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Blame the Farangs. They should stop collecting rubbish on the beaches and reefs, where it belongs. Maybe they could form an artificial rubbish reef? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul944 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 They probably are going to introduce a tourist garbage disposal tax. It is just a matter who is going to pay for it. Easiest will be to move all the garbage to the mainland and process it there. Burning the stuff on the island will chase all tourists away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseLost Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 AC Bar overflow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, zaZa9 said: Samui is the same except the trash pile is way way bigger ... yes but it is covered with tarps right? why doesnt koh tao use the same tried and tested solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Mitker said: We all know for long there is a serious trash issue on this island and a lot of rubbish too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldave1951 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 34 minutes ago, williamgeorgeallen said: yes but it is covered with tarps right? why doesnt koh tao use the same tried and tested solution? They have started to cover this lot with tarps as you can see in the pict all you need is some high wind to descend on this tip and the problem will be all over the island, evenly distributed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honthy Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 what trash? The mafia ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 With a really good rainstorm, the incinerating plant will also be rubbish, well and truly buried. 3 million tourists a year and no proper planning for getting rid of rubbish. Meanwhile other tourist spots have problems with drainage and sewage disposal. What a surprise. It is amazing how these problems can creep up on you just because 32 million tourists happen to come to the country each year bringing trillions of baht with them, which would of course be "wasted" if spent in solving these problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 15 minutes ago, Retiredandhappyhere said: With a really good rainstorm, the incinerating plant will also be rubbish, well and truly buried. 3 million tourists a year and no proper planning for getting rid of rubbish. Meanwhile other tourist spots have problems with drainage and sewage disposal. What a surprise. It is amazing how these problems can creep up on you just because 32 million tourists happen to come to the country each year bringing trillions of baht with them, which would of course be "wasted" if spent in solving these problems. i had heard the incinerator operator contract was up and the new mob dont know how to run it. have to wonder if they are being paid. the trash has to be burned when it come in dry. most of it will end up in the ocean i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 A number of off topic remarks have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Any more references to murders and bodies being hidden, this topic will be closed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLobster Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 15 minutes ago, samuijimmy said: Any more references to murders and bodies being hidden, this topic will be closed... To be fair it is going to be locked sooner or later as it is a negative topic and they tend to get closed - these days PDQ if a Koh Tao topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Knowing the TAT they will put some spin on it and try to flog it as a tourist attraction. ' Unclean Thailand ' ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfish Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 just another example of the greedy mindset - take take take but not willing to spend 1 baht on the environmental mess they create, aren't all the Islands the same - isn't there a very obvious problem that has been going on for yearsMy guess is this one is next on the list after the army finishes with samet today and it will be cleaning up the human garbage as well Sent from my SC-01D using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuijimmy Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, TheLobster said: To be fair it is going to be locked sooner or later as it is a negative topic and they tend to get closed - these days PDQ if a Koh Tao topic. Yes, because more complaints about the constant discussions which have nothing to do with the topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyself Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 8 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said: i had heard the incinerator operator contract was up and the new mob dont know how to run it. have to wonder if they are being paid. the trash has to be burned when it come in dry. most of it will end up in the ocean i guess. Fella who ran it done a runner or something like that. Was in the news a few months buck... Let me go see if I can find the thread.... http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/941577-tourists-flee-stinking-trash-on-koh-tao/ The contract between the municipality and Success Environment Management Co Ltd (SEM), the operators of the incinerator, ended in August but it does not say who actually owns the incinerator. It does suggest that SEM ran the operation but this would likely be in the same way that a subcontractor works. The contract was not renewed because the company was not fulfilling its obligations and was mismanaging the trash,” said Mr Auaychai, adding that plans were afoot to implement a 6 million baht solution. Mr Auaychai refused to elaborate on the problems with SEM, nor would he give any details of the proposed multi-million baht solution, stating that it would be "discussed" at an upcoming inspection visit of the facility by Region 45 Army Chief Ayupan Kannasut. [...] “We were told by the boss to wait for our wages before he headed off to the mainland ‘for business reasons’. He left Koh Tao with all his belongings,” said Mr Ali. http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket-news/Tourists-flee-stinking-trash-Koh-Tao/65513?desktopversion#ad-image-0 I commented this at the time [40 ton a day times 21 days is 840 ton which means there was already 44,160 ton before the breakdown]. From the above links along with other news I read at the time it seems that the volume of waste in a given period was higher than could be processed in that same period meaning that the 'yet to burn' pile just got bigger and bigger. I would also seem that the incinerator was functioning up until the time it was turned off. Some of this 'not working' could be down to translation and this is something I'm sure we have all come across at some stage. An example would be something from a good few years back which I will just brush upon. Had a problem with the electricity in the house so landlady called someone to fix it. I went out for a short time and upon return the chap was packing up. Now work, I asked. No he said. I walked over and tried the light and it went on? The problem (translation) was not that it did not work but that it was not working in that it was not being used. If I turn off my motorbike then it is no longer working meaning the engine is not being used. It is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, notmyself said: Fella who ran it done a runner or something like that. Was in the news a few months buck... Let me go see if I can find the thread.... http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/941577-tourists-flee-stinking-trash-on-koh-tao/ The contract between the municipality and Success Environment Management Co Ltd (SEM), the operators of the incinerator, ended in August but it does not say who actually owns the incinerator. It does suggest that SEM ran the operation but this would likely be in the same way that a subcontractor works. http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket-news/Tourists-flee-stinking-trash-Koh-Tao/65513?desktopversion#ad-image-0 I commented this at the time [40 ton a day times 21 days is 840 ton which means there was already 44,160 ton before the breakdown]. From the above links along with other news I read at the time it seems that the volume of waste in a given period was higher than could be processed in that same period meaning that the 'yet to burn' pile just got bigger and bigger. I would also seem that the incinerator was functioning up until the time it was turned off. Some of this 'not working' could be down to translation and this is something I'm sure we have all come across at some stage. An example would be something from a good few years back which I will just brush upon. Had a problem with the electricity in the house so landlady called someone to fix it. I went out for a short time and upon return the chap was packing up. Now work, I asked. No he said. I walked over and tried the light and it went on? The problem (translation) was not that it did not work but that it was not working in that it was not being used. If I turn off my motorbike then it is no longer working meaning the engine is not being used. It is off. good info and probably should have been in the article. hard to know what is really going on. the need to call sweden to show them how to reduce waste through recycling. worked well when the called the dutch over to stop the flooding in bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetphet Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 and there was me thinking they were building a dry ski slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 On 21-11-2016 at 3:51 PM, Mitker said: We all know for long there is a serious trash issue on this island While driving around Koh Larn i noticed the locals throwing binbags full of plastic in the forest. They were not happy to see me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfish Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 While driving around Koh Larn i noticed the locals throwing binbags full of plastic in the forest. They were not happy to see me. Koh larn mafia are on their last legs. It's a national park with a zillion low class "resorts". Hopefully they will bulldoze them all! Sent from my SC-01D using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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