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As an aside...where is Happy Hammer?

He has not posted in over a month!

Again I cannot understand what Eggie said to be factual about Pardew.

He was a magnificent coach ar Reading...all the players loved him.

How come he managed to get West Ham to 10th last season and an FA Cup Final then???

How could he "lose" the dressing room overnight?

Was it the Argies that upset the apple cart...or Reo(Ishould be playing for Arsenal) Coker?

Pardew is NOT a bad Man Manager..look what happened in that spat with Wenger...Passion...or what?

I think you may be right when you say that Eggie is stiring things up so that he gets no support from the West Ham fans on Saturday.....however I believe he was your best manager since HR...and what on earth were they thinking of when they sacked one of the best managers in the Premiership!!!

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As an aside...where is Happy Hammer?

He has not posted in over a month!

Again I cannot understand what Eggie said to be factual about Pardew.

He was a magnificent coach ar Reading...all the players loved him.

How come he managed to get West Ham to 10th last season and an FA Cup Final then???

How could he "lose" the dressing room overnight?

Was it the Argies that upset the apple cart...or Reo(Ishould be playing for Arsenal) Coker?

Pardew is NOT a bad Man Manager..look what happened in that spat with Wenger...Passion...or what?

I think you may be right when you say that Eggie is stiring things up so that he gets no support from the West Ham fans on Saturday.....however I believe he was your best manager since HR...and what on earth were they thinking of when they sacked one of the best managers in the Premiership!!!

I agree he's not a bad manager, he's certainly gives a better post-match interview and comes across as dynamic figure. however you have to rememember that we had our worst run of defeats since the 20's and there was a definite lack of urgency from the squad to get ourselves out of it. Alongside this were rumours of favouritism to certain players, mid-life crisis with red Ferraris and players wives. The whole story hasn't come out yet but there was something wrong and Egghead had to make a decision, though most WHU fans thought that he would be given the transfer window to change things and it was a shock when it happened so soon. I think he felt Alan Curbs was a safe pair of hands, at least in the short/medium term and was a better bet to steady the ship. Well he is obviously isn't at the moment but would Pards have done any better. I doubt it. I think player power is such that if a clique doesn't respect or agree with their managers decisions or are looking to move on, they play below par and there's little anyone can do to get them playing with any conviction. They are on a fat wedge already and if they get moved on they will gain again with transfer bonuses. As for Happy Hammer I think he's had enough and has become a monk in the forests in Issan. :o

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I just read that Nigel Quashie has been relegated from the Premiership no less than 4 times.

If the Hammers go down this year he will have the record for the most relegated player in EPL History.!

PS I see your point about Pardew.

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I just read that Nigel Quashie has been relegated from the Premiership no less than 4 times.

If the Hammers go down this year he will have the record for the most relegated player in EPL History.!

PS I see your point about Pardew.

Just re-read my post and it looks like my grammar is going to pieces in the heat,as well! Anyway Nigel Quashie or 'Kazi' as he is known lovingly by the fans, was brought in to add a a bit of steel to the midfield. He played alright the first couple of games but has since decided to live up to his type-cast role as relegation bound journeyman. It's not his fault, in fact, I think he's a useful player at times but the whole side is lacking in conviction that even Bobby Moore would be struggling in this team. Obviously it's down to the coach but Curbs is a quiet cultivate, slowly type of manager and hasn't got time to arrest the slide. He needs an extended break to work on the players in training and bring them on through the pre-season friendlies, in time for an approaching season. He's also had a lot of bad luck (echoes of steve bruce last year) with injuries. Most WHU fans are becoming fatalistic about this year with a 'rip it up and start again' attitude. Luckily Egg seems to loaded and will put his hand in pockets to get the club out of the fizzy next year( if we don't turn it around this time). As for Reading be careful of the dreaded second season syndrome, especially if your players start to believe they're bigger than they are and should be playing in the champions league ASAP.

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My biggest fear Keddy is that the team may break up at the end of the season....if some of the big clubs come knocking for some of our players who have proved themselves to be great players at this level...how can a club like Reading stand in their way?

Doyle, Sonko, Hannaman, Hunt Lita, and especially Steve Sidwell who's position remains far from clear could all be very tempted to move to bigger more fashionable clubs than Reading...and who can blame them? They all want to win big things.

I do not think however that Steve Coppelll will let this season's sucess go to the players heads..nobody (including the fans) expected us to be where we are right now...and we would be living in cloud cookoo land if we felt that we could emulate this seasons sucess next year. Having said that he has built up a good squad of fringe players and any one of them can step in and perform at any given moment (re Man Utd last weekend)..However now that this season's safety is assured I do worry about next year after seeing what has transpired at West Ham and Wigan

I would be more than happy to be a "Boro" a "Blackburn" a Man City" or a "Fulham" in otherwords a mid-table side but still in the EPL///or to be a "Bolton" would be fantastic.

But for now..we only have 11 games remaining and only have to play Arsenal Liverpool and Bolton who are above us, so European Football is not beyond us next season. I just wish we would make a big push on the FA Cup front now we are safe ,any other team would but SC wants to stack with the team that has got us this far in the competition ....he puts the fringe players before his own personal ambition...Reading have to have one of the most harmonius dressing rooms in the league...everyone gets a chance...maybee that is the secret of Reading's sucess over the last 18 months!

On another point (excuse the pun) did you know that for each point Reading have secured this season the cost per point has beed 120,000 pounds. For each point Chelsea have earned the cost has been 3.5m ! based on the cost of the squad.

I really hope that West Ham survive...their football was always pleasurable to watch, though I am not too sure about Charlton being a pleasure to watch..I don't know how you will get that back..but I really hope you do.

It must be tough being a West Ham fan right now...but we have all been there...9 years ago , just before we opened our new stadium we were relegated to League 1 where we had to play the likes of Oxford and Swindon and did not always win those games...even at home...crowds of 6,000 were the norm....dark days...everyone has them, even if you do go down as you say Eggie has the cash to pump in to get you back up....however I remain unconvinced that Curbishley is the Man to achieve that . You were not in real danger when he arrived..but you definatley are now.

He may have to look abroad.

Good Luck

TP

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My biggest fear Keddy is that the team may break up at the end of the season....if some of the big clubs come knocking for some of our players who have proved themselves to be great players at this level...how can a club like Reading stand in their way?

Doyle, Sonko, Hannaman, Hunt Lita, and especially Steve Sidwell who's position remains far from clear could all be very tempted to move to bigger more fashionable clubs than Reading...and who can blame them? They all want to win big things.

I do not think however that Steve Coppelll will let this season's sucess go to the players heads..nobody (including the fans) expected us to be where we are right now...and we would be living in cloud cookoo land if we felt that we could emulate this seasons sucess next year. Having said that he has built up a good squad of fringe players and any one of them can step in and perform at any given moment (re Man Utd last weekend)..However now that this season's safety is assured I do worry about next year after seeing what has transpired at West Ham and Wigan

I would be more than happy to be a "Boro" a "Blackburn" a Man City" or a "Fulham" in otherwords a mid-table side but still in the EPL///or to be a "Bolton" would be fantastic.

But for now..we only have 11 games remaining and only have to play Arsenal Liverpool and Bolton who are above us, so European Football is not beyond us next season. I just wish we would make a big push on the FA Cup front now we are safe ,any other team would but SC wants to stack with the team that has got us this far in the competition ....he puts the fringe players before his own personal ambition...Reading have to have one of the most harmonius dressing rooms in the league...everyone gets a chance...maybee that is the secret of Reading's sucess over the last 18 months!

On another point (excuse the pun) did you know that for each point Reading have secured this season the cost per point has beed 120,000 pounds. For each point Chelsea have earned the cost has been 3.5m ! based on the cost of the squad.

I really hope that West Ham survive...their football was always pleasurable to watch, though I am not too sure about Charlton being a pleasure to watch..I don't know how you will get that back..but I really hope you do.

It must be tough being a West Ham fan right now...but we have all been there...9 years ago , just before we opened our new stadium we were relegated to League 1 where we had to play the likes of Oxford and Swindon and did not always win those games...even at home...crowds of 6,000 were the norm....dark days...everyone has them, even if you do go down as you say Eggie has the cash to pump in to get you back up....however I remain unconvinced that Curbishley is the Man to achieve that . You were not in real danger when he arrived..but you definatley are now.

He may have to look abroad.

Good Luck

TP

Thanks for that but as a fat little piano player from Watford once said "It's a sad, sad situation and it's getting more and more absurd" Curbs has looked pretty depressed during the press conferences, it's understandable, of course, though most fans want a bit of defiance. Pards was always good at this role but it all rang hollow for him in the end. However I don't want us to become a Man City, changing the manager at the first sign of trouble. We've only had 10 in our history and we've been going since 1895. One thing I did like about Pards and Curbs is that they are both able to bring promising players through and there's a lot of satisfaction throughout the club when this happens. Your club has done alright without spending much. I lived in Reading, for a short while,during the Lawrie Sanchez era before he moved to Wimbledon and saw a few games there every now and then. You've come a long way since then but it was an entertaining side. Also saw the interview with Steve Coppell on the box today and just wondering what Reading fans think of him only signing yearly contracts. Good Luck for the rest of the season. :o

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Well a sad day for both Wesht Am and Sheff U. Both losing by four goals to nil.

Must say that its a bit sad losing to Carlton-under-dog though.

What do have to say about Mr Pardrew now?

Or do you blame Curbs?

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Happy days.

Oh really! Last time I looked you were 3 points behind Wigan and they have a game in hand. They also have a superior goal difference, which is worth an extra point. So see you in the Fizzy next year. If you're a spud or a 'fan' of another club then mind your own business or at least say something vaguely intelligent, insightfull, interesting or even funny but that's probably beyond you :D

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You must be reeling Keddy......however you have to expect some ribbing from a Charlton supporter.

What I found amazing was how the West Ham fans stayed behind their team throughout the game...even cheering them on right to the final whistle...and no booing

They deserve a lot better...what on earth is it with the players?

They just did not compete, they did not appear to be up for it like the Charlton players were. I watched the whole game ...amd I am sorry to say that IMHO there is no way back for you with just 10 games left.

Curbs IS a good manager but it seems there is a complete lack of confidence running through the whole team.

I just get a feeling about Eggy.....I dont like the look of him..I know its a subjective comment...but I did not really apprecaite his comments about Pardew and its all blown up in his face.

As a Royals fan ...I did not like the circumstances in which AP left us...but I still think he's a decent bloke, as is Curbishley.

Reo-Coker...is he to blame for all this?...as someone has to shoulder some of the responsibility, or did it all go wrong the day the Argentinians arrived?. I have looked at your run-in and its probably the toughest of all the teams fighting it out down there.

PS. did someone once try and cut Teves's throat? Thats some evil scar he's got.

Anyway good luck Keddy....Personally I think whoever goes down it will be a shame.

But that as they say is football...you live or die according to how hard you fight and West Ham are just not fighting hard enough

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Happy days.

Oh really! Last time I looked you were 3 points behind Wigan and they have a game in hand. They also have a superior goal difference, which is worth an extra point. So see you in the Fizzy next year. If you're a spud or a 'fan' of another club then mind your own business or at least say something vaguely intelligent, insightfull, interesting or even funny but that's probably beyond you :D

Well Keddy. If you think calling Charlton fans as 'Flask carrying anorak wearing' as funny etc, fine, how about this then. What was that game like? Embarrassing or what? It was like drowning a <deleted> puppy. The whole thing was all over as a contest after 30 minutes - literally all over for your lot.

As for Curbs, well tomorrow I will have more time to explain what a lot of Charlton fans really thought of him and why, with respect to TP, he not a good manager.

I'm just looking at our next five games or so and we should get ourselves out of this tight spot, however, I'm not so confident to be too cocky about it.

I will have no pleasure seeing 2 or 3 London sides getting relegated.

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You must be reeling Keddy......however you have to expect some ribbing from a Charlton supporter.

What I found amazing was how the West Ham fans stayed behind their team throughout the game...even cheering them on right to the final whistle...and no booing

They deserve a lot better...what on earth is it with the players?

They just did not compete, they did not appear to be up for it like the Charlton players were. I watched the whole game ...amd I am sorry to say that IMHO there is no way back for you with just 10 games left.

Curbs IS a good manager but it seems there is a complete lack of confidence running through the whole team.

I just get a feeling about Eggy.....I dont like the look of him..I know its a subjective comment...but I did not really apprecaite his comments about Pardew and its all blown up in his face.

As a Royals fan ...I did not like the circumstances in which AP left us...but I still think he's a decent bloke, as is Curbishley.

Reo-Coker...is he to blame for all this?...as someone has to shoulder some of the responsibility, or did it all go wrong the day the Argentinians arrived?. I have looked at your run-in and its probably the toughest of all the teams fighting it out down there.

PS. did someone once try and cut Teves's throat? Thats some evil scar he's got.

Anyway good luck Keddy....Personally I think whoever goes down it will be a shame.

But that as they say is football...you live or die according to how hard you fight and West Ham are just not fighting hard enough

Not reeling but resigned. They have been playing like this for most of the season,with the exception of the Man Utd and Arse games. I wasn't that surprised although it was still depressing watching that pile of 'ki maa'. Why are they playing like this? Who knows ?but I'll have a stab at a few areas.

Losing the cup final last year after being only seconds away from actually winnng it. When they lost the play-off final to Palace (in 2004) it took a long time to hit any form and we only scraped into the play-offs during the last few games. Maybe many of the players felt after that the only chance of silverware was to join the cartel (manure, 'pool l'arse and take the roubles and run 'fc').

The players are still young and inexperienced to cope with failure on that scale and they lost confidence, which was compounded by the arrival of the 2 Argentinos. language barriers, different football culture, uncertainty over the deal and maybe they were in awe of them, a bit, I don't know. Pardew failing at man-management, selecting favourites ahead of intergrating the 2 players properly. The negative press over the deal, was also an unwanted distraction Pardew wanting to be his own man ahead of the good of the club. Also he is completely lacking experience managing these kinds of players. The distraction of the takeover which dragged on for ages. Another change after Pards was sacked.

Why was he sacked? worse run since the 1920's and maybe all kinds of 'middle-aged crisis'stuff behind from the scenes with Pards, allegedly involving players wives-who knows. However it was probably just rumours. However another yet unwanted distraction. Curbs not dynamic enough, not able to impose his nous in the short term. Needs more time to cultivate his players. loads of injuries especially the defence. Lack of quality available in January.

Lack of right sided midfielder. Bowyer was injured but it was really a failure of investment from the old chairman Terence Brown in the summer probably because he knew he would be selling later and didn't want to put his hand in his pocket.

Lack of respect from Post-Bosman football players at this level. They can move on so easily without a sense of loyalty to the club (contract or no contract).

Anything else maybe the coissants were not hot enough or the herbal tonic cocktails too warm in the dressing room. Bah modern life can be rubbish

:D Fortunately the Mekon, Uncle Eggy has to see this through and in the long term the club will be alright :o The whole area will be developed for the Olympics and West Ham United should benefit from this.Though it's had it's insides ripped out this season and needs time to rebuild.

PS the fans are really the club despite the rubbish they have to put up with, everyone else just comes and goes. To be a West Ham fan you have to learn to suffer. I think we have an affinity with Man Citeh, Newcastle, and maybe Evertonians and it gets to be part of the tradition of the club. :D

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You must be reeling Keddy......however you have to expect some ribbing from a Charlton supporter.

What I found amazing was how the West Ham fans stayed behind their team throughout the game...even cheering them on right to the final whistle...and no booing

They deserve a lot better...what on earth is it with the players?

They just did not compete, they did not appear to be up for it like the Charlton players were. I watched the whole game ...amd I am sorry to say that IMHO there is no way back for you with just 10 games left.

Curbs IS a good manager but it seems there is a complete lack of confidence running through the whole team.

I just get a feeling about Eggy.....I dont like the look of him..I know its a subjective comment...but I did not really apprecaite his comments about Pardew and its all blown up in his face.

As a Royals fan ...I did not like the circumstances in which AP left us...but I still think he's a decent bloke, as is Curbishley.

Reo-Coker...is he to blame for all this?...as someone has to shoulder some of the responsibility, or did it all go wrong the day the Argentinians arrived?. I have looked at your run-in and its probably the toughest of all the teams fighting it out down there.

PS. did someone once try and cut Teves's throat? Thats some evil scar he's got.

Anyway good luck Keddy....Personally I think whoever goes down it will be a shame.

But that as they say is football...you live or die according to how hard you fight and West Ham are just not fighting hard enough

Not reeling but resigned. They have been playing like this for most of the season,with the exception of the Man Utd and Arse games. I wasn't that surprised although it was still depressing watching that pile of 'ki maa'. Why are they playing like this? Who knows ?but I'll have a stab at a few areas.

Losing the cup final last year after being only seconds away from actually winnng it. When they lost the play-off final to Palace (in 2004) it took a long time to hit any form and we only scraped into the play-offs during the last few games. Maybe many of the players felt after that the only chance of silverware was to join the cartel (manure, 'pool l'arse and take the roubles and run 'fc').

The players are still young and inexperienced to cope with failure on that scale and they lost confidence, which was compounded by the arrival of the 2 Argentinos. language barriers, different football culture, uncertainty over the deal and maybe they were in awe of them, a bit, I don't know. Pardew failing at man-management, selecting favourites ahead of intergrating the 2 players properly. The negative press over the deal, was also an unwanted distraction Pardew wanting to be his own man ahead of the good of the club. Also he is completely lacking experience managing these kinds of players. The distraction of the takeover which dragged on for ages. Another change after Pards was sacked.

Why was he sacked? worse run since the 1920's and maybe all kinds of 'middle-aged crisis'stuff behind from the scenes with Pards, allegedly involving players wives-who knows. However it was probably just rumours. However another yet unwanted distraction. Curbs not dynamic enough, not able to impose his nous in the short term. Needs more time to cultivate his players. loads of injuries especially the defence. Lack of quality available in January.

Lack of right sided midfielder. Bowyer was injured but it was really a failure of investment from the old chairman Terence Brown in the summer probably because he knew he would be selling later and didn't want to put his hand in his pocket.

Lack of respect from Post-Bosman football players at this level. They can move on so easily without a sense of loyalty to the club (contract or no contract).

Anything else maybe the coissants were not hot enough or the herbal tonic cocktails too warm in the dressing room. Bah modern life can be rubbish

:D Fortunately the Mekon, Uncle Eggy has to see this through and in the long term the club will be alright :o The whole area will be developed for the Olympics and West Ham United should benefit from this.Though it's had it's insides ripped out this season and needs time to rebuild.

PS the fans are really the club despite the rubbish they have to put up with, everyone else just comes and goes. To be a West Ham fan you have to learn to suffer. I think we have an affinity with Man Citeh, Newcastle, and maybe Evertonians and it gets to be part of the tradition of the club. :D

Outrageous fortune with the win over blackburnt. Couldn't stop laughing at the sight of Mark 'old grey wolf' Hughes standing there in disbelief :D but it's about time something went for us and we showed a bit of spirit in the second half and fought well. Can't see us staying up but we need to put a few wins together and salvage some pride. :D Come on you Irons

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Normally when you are bottom of the league you dont get the rub of the green.......well you certainly got it yesterday.

You have a very tough run-in ..BUT anything is possible..

Well we hadn't even seen a glimpse of green let alone rubbed against any untill yesterday. I was beginning to think we had upset the ghost of Ann Boleyn or had been cursed by clothes peg selling Millwall supporters with access to black magic. We still need a big overhaul next season and many of the players won't want to slum it down there. However there is still a pulse and the spirit is coming back. Also unlike Leeds we have a few bob and should put together a decent squad to come back. The big problem for me is following the Irons in the fizzy pop. It's going to be difficult in THailand but I'll try and track down some radio links, through the internet. I don't want to be sitting in front of a text screen, waiting for latest scores to come up. Ever done that? As for the great escape and I'm not thinking about it just taking one match at a time :o

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