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More hotel raids expected as tourist season hots up in Chiang Mai

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They never seem to mention what happens to the guests when the hotel is closed down on the spot.  I hope they offer some kind of re-booking assistance.

 

It's one thing to enforce the law and punish the owner, but what happens to the people who saved up all year for their 2 weeks in paradise, and now have to book a room, last minute, on a Friday?  I can only guess whether they even get a refund from the owner who is now financially screwed.

 

I can't imagine they post wonderful holiday stories on their blogs, or recommend the experience to their friends back home.  Or come back next year...

 

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3 hours ago, bubba said:

That's funny...just had a look at booking.com and while Pause and Play do not have availability over the weekend, you can book rooms there for next Monday.

 

 

Perhaps because that "big backlog" somehow suddenly got shorter?

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4 hours ago, fstarbkk said:

The government announced yesterday that 600 of 953 Hotels in CM are operating without the proper license. Ask yourself why this is suddenly a priority issue, in the wake of the Malin Sky affair.

 

Fair enough, but if some bigwig's son hadn't gotten beaten up in that affair, would they even be bothering now?

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"2,000 baht a night"

 

I've never paid more than 240.  Except when I stay in BKK, then I pay 1400.  

 

But that's for a modern architecture hotel--floor to ceiling glass window, modern style bathroom with----get this---a shower stall so the whole bathroom floor doesn't get wet when showering.  

 

Does this hotel have that?  

 

555, no this venue is for "geniuses" who think they know everything about everything ?

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13 minutes ago, Mooner said:

Be interested to see this 240 baht hotel.

Not sure I would!

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There are some real gems in this thread like: 

- A licensed hotel will have passed safety checks

- A licensed hotel will have insurance to cover mishaps to guests

- The police are simply enforcing the law

 

I'm not mocking the posters who made those comments because I wish they were correct. On one hand, it's good that you have some faith in the idea of a compact among businesses, customers, and regulators-- indeed this is not fantasy but a reality in many parts of the world. On the other hand, I have seen little evidence to suggest that Chiang Mai in particular, and Thailand in general, holds the same beliefs. If 2/3rds of Chiang Mai's 1000 hotels operate without a license, the police will awfully busy checking up on them one by one.

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So it only takes a Major Generals son to get beaten up to inforce the law's in LOS......

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7 hours ago, Sparkles said:

You are 100% right.Poice and Army have no right to get involved unless its believed to be a terrorist or criminal related activity going on within the hotel.

Massive over kill.

Isn't there a Government Department that could have dealt with this in a discreet and proper manner.

If you were unlucky enought to be a guest what sort of message does it send out that Police/Army are required.

High or low season is irrelevant and I doubt,as a guest, you would ever return

 

 

 

Police and the army have no right to get involved??? Where did you find that out. This is Thailand! Not the same laws and way of working like in your home country. I just supposed you took the information from there.
Here they have all the right in the world to get involved. They are the ones that have this part of work under their wings.

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5 hours ago, Docno said:

That's all very well and good if the government is running efficiently. But I have some sympathy for the owner if the proper paperwork has been submitted in a reasonable timeframe and hotel is ready to go, and you're told that you cannot get approvals because of a backlog. This should not be an issue ... it means that there is something wrong on the government side (bad processes, insufficient personnel, etc.). Can you imagine how much money the owner would be losing on a weekly basis due to this government backlog?

Has the hotel passed any safety compliance checks.That's what they mean by paperwork.Imagine there was a fire,the owner would be off like a shot.

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5 hours ago, Homburg said:

Sometimes translating from Thai to English can be tricky. One example is the Thai for "there is a big backlog" actually translates into English as "there is not enough in this envelope".  

This is not the West:  Without the requisite "paperwork" in the envelope the licence will never be issued, and even for those establishments that have a licence, unless they have powerful friends then it is inevitable that the BIB etc. will find some "problem" with the licence so that they can still get their tea money.  TIT. 

If you have evidence of this,tell the General,if not it is an urban myth.

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6 hours ago, impulse said:

They never seem to mention what happens to the guests when the hotel is closed down on the spot.  I hope they offer some kind of re-booking assistance.

 

It's one thing to enforce the law and punish the owner, but what happens to the people who saved up all year for their 2 weeks in paradise, and now have to book a room, last minute, on a Friday?  I can only guess whether they even get a refund from the owner who is now financially screwed.

 

I can't imagine they post wonderful holiday stories on their blogs, or recommend the experience to their friends back home.  Or come back next year...

 

 

The first hotel that got closed, arranged for alternate accommodations for all the outstanding bookings. Guests already checked in were allowed to stay until their scheduled checkout date. Not sure how the Pause & Pause and play handles their situation. 

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13 hours ago, Docno said:

That's all very well and good if the government is running efficiently. But I have some sympathy for the owner if the proper paperwork has been submitted in a reasonable timeframe and hotel is ready to go, and you're told that you cannot get approvals because of a backlog. This should not be an issue ... it means that there is something wrong on the government side (bad processes, insufficient personnel, etc.). Can you imagine how much money the owner would be losing on a weekly basis due to this government backlog?

A lot of government departments purposely drag feet in the hopes of bribes to get things speeded up. Nothing new.

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17 hours ago, fstarbkk said:

The government announced yesterday that 600 of 953 Hotels in CM are operating without the proper license. Ask yourself why this is suddenly a priority issue, in the wake of the Malin Sky affair.

 

 

Just getting rid of some sacrificial lambs here,..... nothing more to see...

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