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Chaos at the border as Malaysians continue to flood into Thailand


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15 hours ago, ratcatcher said:

"Is it just my poor understanding of currency exchange, but doesn't that mean the THB has deceased in value against the Ringgit?

I know that's a typo, but I think the Thai baht is still alive and kicking   :thumbsup:

 
 
 
 

 

And my hamster immediately deceased when it read the thread, now being stiff still in its wheel. Please pray for it/ him. 

 

   

 

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13 hours ago, yellowboat said:

Not sure about that.  Thailand is close by with lots of entertainment, cheaper alcohol and north of the border Thailand has a vibrant, Chinese speaking community.  Many of the visitors are Malay Chinese.  Malay Chinese run the Malaysian Economy.  Pretty sure Sharia law would bring the country to a halt. 

 

For some reason, Singaporeans like Hat Yai as well.  Does TAT have an office there ?  You wonder if Thais really know what is going on in their own country.   Their lack of curiosity costs them.

Sharia does have a terrible impact on all aspects of society but true Muslims do not care about such things . 

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3 hours ago, Kaalle said:

One big part of the problem is the immigration officers spending 5 minutes flicking back and forth between passport pages for every single traveller and looking arrogant and pissed of on top of this. The ones who are not manning the booths walk around and drink coffee and play with their phones. 

Sounds just like Saudi . 

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The fall in the ringgit is precisely the reason why most Malaysians are shunning other destinations further afield where the Ringgit will stretch even lesser than in Thailand. That coupled with school holidays and a 4 day long weekend. This should continue till after the Chinese new year. 

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There is 'selective Sharia' in Malaysia.  The Muslims get the Sharia restrictions and punishments, the various infidels are not subject to this.  The northern-most staes on the east coast of the peninsula are the most severe. But if a woman wearing a hijab was spotted in KL drinking a beer all hell would break loose. 

The customers of the whorehouses in Sadao are mostly ethnic Chinese lads from Malaysia or Singapore, but if an Islami showed up I doubt anyone would care.

There aren't really any nice seaside places on the west coast of Malaysia that compare to, say, Phi-Phi. 

 

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35 minutes ago, bendejo said:

There is 'selective Sharia' in Malaysia.  The Muslims get the Sharia restrictions and punishments, the various infidels are not subject to this.  The northern-most staes on the east coast of the peninsula are the most severe. But if a woman wearing a hijab was spotted in KL drinking a beer all hell would break loose. 

The customers of the whorehouses in Sadao are mostly ethnic Chinese lads from Malaysia or Singapore, but if an Islami showed up I doubt anyone would care.

There aren't really any nice seaside places on the west coast of Malaysia that compare to, say, Phi-Phi. 

 

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Phi-Phi Island nice??? When was the last time you visited the island? I was there in the 80s and already in the 90s it stared to become crowded and polluted.

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17 hours ago, yellowboat said:

Not sure about that.  Thailand is close by with lots of entertainment, cheaper alcohol and north of the border Thailand has a vibrant, Chinese speaking community.  Many of the visitors are Malay Chinese.  Malay Chinese run the Malaysian Economy.  Pretty sure Sharia law would bring the country to a halt. 

 

For some reason, Singaporeans like Hat Yai as well.  Does TAT have an office there ?  You wonder if Thais really know what is going on in their own country.   Their lack of curiosity costs them.

 

 

They are called malaysian Chinese not malay Chinese. Malay is an ethnic group, malaysian is a nationality.

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20 hours ago, BuaBS said:

What a stupid article . WHY are there so many Malaysians coming ? Same climate , maybe even better beaches . They have cool mountains, so what is it ? Cheap hookers ? But I see children in the line up ...

 

If you look at historic tourist figures you will see that Malay tourist was the biggest visitors until the Chinese arrived. The reason is simple, Malaysia is like a big old age home compared to Thailand. Many of these tourists are muslims that come over for a drink and prostitutes (sound familiar).

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9 hours ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said:

 

Phi-Phi Island nice??? When was the last time you visited the island? I was there in the 80s and already in the 90s it stared to become crowded and polluted.

 

Actually I was going for irony, as Pangkor is arguably worse than Phi-Phi.

 

 

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17 hours ago, ashkale said:

The fall in the ringgit is precisely the reason why most Malaysians are shunning other destinations further afield where the Ringgit will stretch even lesser than in Thailand. That coupled with school holidays and a 4 day long weekend. This should continue till after the Chinese new year. 

School reconvenes  so to speak on the first monday in January every year, thats Monday the second this year

The first day of Chinese New Year is Sat 28 this celebration takes preference over any other for the Malaysian Chinese community

Finances will be stretched for most by this time, so not very likely it will continue in January, nevermind until after CNY, bad news for TAT I am afraid

 

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On 12/11/2016 at 8:21 AM, Chang_paarp said:

 

Is it just my poor understanding of currency exchange, but doesn't that mean the THB has deceased in value against the Ringgit? It looks like the Malaysians will now get 125THB for their 10 Ringgit. Maybe this could explain the sudden interest in Malaysians to travel to the southern provinces.

 

Nope. 10 Malaysian money now only 80 Thai money. Last year it was 10 MR 125 THB. Thus the Thai Baht is stable, while Malaysian ringit felt significant. The reason they connected their money to Indonesian rupiah, which  went under the water line too.

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8 minutes ago, Honthy said:

Nope. 10 Malaysian money now only 80 Thai money. Last year it was 10 MR 125 THB. Thus the Thai Baht is stable, while Malaysian ringit felt significant. The reason they connected their money to Indonesian rupiah, which  went under the water line too.

Malaysia tied the Ringgit to the US Dollar for a number of years after the late nineties  Asian financial crises

Long since untied

As for any connection to the Indonesian Rupiah WELL 5555555555555555555555555555555555

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1 minute ago, oldlakey said:

Malaysia tied the Ringgit to the US Dollar for a number of years after the late nineties  Asian financial crises

Long since untied

As for any connection to the Indonesian Rupiah WELL 5555555555555555555555555555555555

 

Yes, sorry for my .... They both connected their currency to the USD. 

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On 11/12/2016 at 9:26 AM, ezzra said:

Better quality tourists than the Chinese.... at least no zero dollar deals there...


Have you ever been to Malaysia ?  Look at the photo in the OP.  People who look the same as the workers in your local Chinese take-away are Chinese. There's loads of them in Malaysia. It's just that most of the Chinese in Malaysia don't have a Chinese take-away food shop.

 

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9 minutes ago, Honthy said:

Yes, sorry for my .... They both connected their currency to the USD. 

No problem, its just when I have to think in thousands it just pisses me off

I dont want to talk about Vietnam

The only silver lining is since I am a Brit, there is not so many thousands to contend with just now 5555555

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16 minutes ago, tonbridgebrit said:


Have you ever been to Malaysia ?  Look at the photo in the OP.  People who look the same as the workers in your local Chinese take-away are Chinese. There's loads of them in Malaysia. It's just that most of the Chinese in Malaysia don't have a Chinese take-away food shop.

 

 Actually approx 28% of the population are of Chinese descent, thats why they look like the workers in your Chinese chip hole, they are Malaysian citizens and live there

Then of course there are the tourists and immigrants, a hell of a job to tell them apart at times as they all seem to have similar traits

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Returning from Penang a few months back, we got to the border quite early after leaving at 5am. Already there were queues of tour buses, so leaving early is a must. Our minibus driver informed us we must pay 1 ringit for tea money... I just refused, but the rest paid; in my estimation those guys in the booths are raking in thousands every week. Unless the driver is pocketing the cash :smile:

 

A few weeks ago was wifey's birthday so we went to Genting Highlands, which is pretty amazing to see; although it is pricey the weak ringit makes it less painful. Flights to KL are pretty cheap, from KLIA it takes 2-3 hours up to the top of a spectacular mountain setting. It is really worth the trip, there are a few proper large casinos, but avoid weekends. Very few Caucasians, surprisingly.

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5 hours ago, tonbridgebrit said:


Have you ever been to Malaysia ?  Look at the photo in the OP.  People who look the same as the workers in your local Chinese take-away are Chinese. There's loads of them in Malaysia. It's just that most of the Chinese in Malaysia don't have a Chinese take-away food shop.

 

 

 

I don't know why but some foreigners have problems grasping that Chinese can come from so many countries which isn't so different from any other ethnic group. Farangs can come from canada, oz, usa even Africa not just england and ppl get it yet have a problem when it involves Chinese

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14 hours ago, oldlakey said:

 Actually approx 28% of the population are of Chinese descent, thats why they look like the workers in your Chinese chip hole, they are Malaysian citizens and live there

Then of course there are the tourists and immigrants, a hell of a job to tell them apart at times as they all seem to have similar traits

 

9 hours ago, Howitzer said:

 

 

I don't know why but some foreigners have problems grasping that Chinese can come from so many countries which isn't so different from any other ethnic group. Farangs can come from canada, oz, usa even Africa not just england and ppl get it yet have a problem when it involves Chinese


I'm trying to make the point that Chinese are Chinese. Chinese are from China, and also outside of China. Some posters on ThaiVisa seem to think that Chinese from China are not the same as the Chinese from outside of China.
It's ridiculous to criticise Chinese from China, and then to not criticise Chinese from other places. They all look the same, they are the same.

By the way, I certainly don't have a problem with a load of Chinese tourists in Thailand. And I dont really care if they're from Malaysia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, China, etc.
:smile:

 

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On 12/11/2016 at 0:05 PM, BuaBS said:

What a stupid article . WHY are there so many Malaysians coming ? Same climate , maybe even better beaches . They have cool mountains, so what is it ? Cheap hookers ? But I see children in the line up ...

 

 

Less islam, more laid-back, partying, temples are more beautiful than mosques, etc.

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16 hours ago, oldlakey said:

School reconvenes  so to speak on the first monday in January every year, thats Monday the second this year

The first day of Chinese New Year is Sat 28 this celebration takes preference over any other for the Malaysian Chinese community

Finances will be stretched for most by this time, so not very likely it will continue in January, nevermind until after CNY, bad news for TAT I am afraid

 

Should be Tuesday for school reopen,as Sunday is New Year Day.Monday will be a public holiday. 

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5 hours ago, tonbridgebrit said:

 


I'm trying to make the point that Chinese are Chinese. Chinese are from China, and also outside of China. Some posters on ThaiVisa seem to think that Chinese from China are not the same as the Chinese from outside of China.
It's ridiculous to criticise Chinese from China, and then to not criticise Chinese from other places. They all look the same, they are the same.

By the way, I certainly don't have a problem with a load of Chinese tourists in Thailand. And I dont really care if they're from Malaysia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, China, etc.
:smile:

 

Yes I agree with you that many of the cultural traits of mainland chinese, are openly on view in the character and behaviour of many Malaysian citizens of Chinese descent

Maybe the perception that some have of actual  mainland China citizens is coloured somewhat by the share weight of numbers, they encounter just a thought

I cant even begin to pick a winner from your list 5555555

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