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Koh Phangan hospital backtracks after pregnant English tourist is unable to pay medical bill

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Koh Phangan hospital backtracks after pregnant English tourist is unable to pay medical bill

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Image: Workpoint News via Sanook

 

A private hospital on Koh Phangan backtracked on a 100,000 baht hospital bill after initially taking an English woman's passport because she could not pay.

 

Following the full moon party an English woman tourist had been admitted to the hospital with blood coming from her uterus. She was three months pregnant and was further suffering from fainting fits.

 

With friends she explained that she had very little money after being in Thailand for a month but she did have travel insurance.

 

The hospital admitted her then transferred her to a sister hospital on Koh Samui.

 

When a bill for 103,319 baht was presented to her it was realized that the policy did not cover pregnant women. She had no money to pay and the hospital took her passport and threatened her with legal action.

 

This happened before she was due to fly home on Sunday and she was unable to leave. Friends helped her come up with just 20,000 baht for the treatment after negotiations with the hospital.

 

Thai friends of the English woman went to the tourist police and reporters from Workpoint News got involved, reported sanook.com.

 

When this happened the hospital immediately backtracked, returned the passport and even returned her money.

 

No quotes or further information from the hospital was reported in the Sanook.com article.

 

Source: http://news.sanook.com/2123094/

 

 
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5 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

and the hospital took her passport and threatened her with legal action.

 

Never, EVER, give up that passport. 

 

Single most important thing to a foreigner here in Thailand, second is bug-out cash and credit cards. They get you by the balls (or uterus).

 

Also its a real chickenshit maneuver/probably illegal to take someones only travel document and hold it hostage. Let alone its wasn't even an official person, just hospital people. Pretty pathetic on the hospital and infuriating just reading it. 

 

As for the rest of the topic, well, Full Moon Party, 3 months pregnant, no money..... 

 

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How come they changed their mind at the hospital and gave back the passport? Haha. Low life entities always amuse me. 

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Absolute thievery by some of the hospital brass foiled seemingly... Or am i missing something (itemised bill maybe)? And also a glaring example how travel insurance in a lot of instances is pretty worthless when it is actually needed. 

Glad to hear the girl will be getting home without any extra undue stress

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the embassy  won't back up the  citizen in favor of the hospital ?

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It is very illegal for any person or agency, other than law enforcement to retain your passport and then only on the imposition of a criminal case against you.

 

Not paying a car rental, hotel or hospital bills is a civil matter and the damaged party must retain a lawyer to file a civil suit against the person that they have a bill with.

 

Yes, I know as in this case, hospitals and hotels try to retain your passport as surety, but an embassy can and does very regularly cancel an existing passport being held hostage, and issue you with a new one in a day.

 

The embassy will then call to the entity that is wrongfully in possession of the passport and ask for it to be returned to the embassy asap as it is the property of the issuing government.

 

Of course the person wrongfully retaining the passport who was short changed, is shocked but this is the law in Thailand!

 

Been there done that!!!!!

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1 hour ago, Strange said:

 

Never, EVER, give up that passport. 

 

Single most important thing to a foreigner here in Thailand, second is bug-out cash and credit cards. They get you by the balls (or uterus).

 

Also its a real chickenshit maneuver/probably illegal to take someones only travel document and hold it hostage. Let alone its wasn't even an official person, just hospital people. Pretty pathetic on the hospital and infuriating just reading it. 

 

As for the rest of the topic, well, Full Moon Party, 3 months pregnant, no money..... 

 

By International Law Standards, technically the owner of any Passport is the corresponding Government. The Holder is just only the Person who is allowed to carry and use it for well known purposes..So far, its illegal and everybody who gives a Passport as Deposit for Rental Motorbikes etc,. is breaking Law. (The good thing is, anybody could report it lost or stolen and then get issued a new Passport, so happen in the past ...)

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1 hour ago, Strange said:

 

Never, EVER, give up that passport. 

 

Single most important thing to a foreigner here in Thailand, second is bug-out cash and credit cards. They get you by the balls (or uterus).

 

Also its a real chickenshit maneuver/probably illegal to take someones only travel document and hold it hostage. Let alone its wasn't even an official person, just hospital people. Pretty pathetic on the hospital and infuriating just reading it. 

 

As for the rest of the topic, well, Full Moon Party, 3 months pregnant, no money..... 

 

Taking the passport or not is irrelevant.  Try leaving a hotel with any amount due whether true or not, and watch how fast the old security guard tries to stop you and if you resist some cops show up pretty quickly.  You won't make it down the street or to the airport. 

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3 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

Taking the passport or not is irrelevant.  Try leaving a hotel with any amount due whether true or not, and watch how fast the old security guard tries to stop you and if you resist some cops show up pretty quickly.  You won't make it down the street or to the airport. 

 

Fair enough, but with the passport securely in pocket, just defuse the situation by going back to the room to get the 'rest of your stuff' and book it out the stairway or whatever. 

 

I also never check out of a hotel all in one go. I always come down early to clear the bill before clearing out the room. Never just pack up and sit in the lobby with all my stuff. 

 

Honestly I never give a passport for a hotel, car, scooter, etc. Never Never. If a photocopy isn't enough, there are plenty of places that will take it. 

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And no one looks at the fact that she's pregnant..hasn't bothered to read her insurance policy (which one think would be critically important when travelling pregnant)...heads off to a full moon party (<deleted>???).   The hospital, as far as I am concerned, is in the right to claim the fees for the care and service provided. I pity this woman's child if even before birth mum can be so irresponsible. 

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It is possible the young lady did not know she was pregnant...

 

The real story here is the hospital backing down - why besmirch the girl? The beer turning sour in that fat gut? :smile:

 

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Most likely the hospital saw an insurance document, thought they hit the pot of gold, so gouged the hell out of her expecting an easy payday. Standard practice in the medical industry, no?

 

Once they realised the victim/patient had no cash and started making a noise they obviously decided better to make it go away. No point getting bad publicity.

 

One of the good things about social media.

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No father of the as-yet unborn child around? I don't like to stereotype, but no boyfriend/husband with her, Full Moon Party..... Good luck to the kid when it's born.

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