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Thai woman fights back and kills man who attempted to rape her


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1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

 

Italy has become a very weak society, straddled with socialist and super liberal ideas about the law, and justice. Fighting off a rapist should always be considered self defense. If he must be killed, it should never be considered murder. Medals should be awarded to women who defend themselves in this manner. Italy should hang it's head in shame over this.

Not only that, but the Amanda Knox story showed how a tyrannical prosecutor can fabricate nonsense like "satanic murder cult" (when in fact the FBI crime manual, with heavy influence from famous profiler John Douglas, states there is essentially no such thing as satanic murder cults). Then, when they don't like the "not guilty" verdict, they appeal and keep trying until they get the conviction they want! This is why in the U.S. we have the double-jeopardy law. Once exonerated in a criminal court, you can never be tried for the same crime again. Anyway, while the SECOND trial was going on, her parents said they really believed this other guy who had vanished had been the murderer...and they charged them with criminal defamation!! So there's no freedom of speech in Italy either. In the US, libel and slander are civil offenses, not criminal, and they are hard to prove as well. (Sweden also makes defamation a criminal offense.)

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I somehow knew the word  "scum - - - "  would crop up when I read this story. 
   This is a word I rarely ever heard used before coming Thailand (I come from Western Europe). It appears to me it is used by peoples from one particular nation on a regular basis.
    At home, if a person used this word, most people within earshot would physically cringe with disgust. When I see it written down it appears even worse. ......I can assure readers that I am no "shrinking violet"...and have been pulled up on more than one occasion myself for using the "F" word. But the word I'm referring to, for me, is in a completely different category. It''s on a par with calling a lady by the "C" word.
    For me, it says more about the person using it ....than it does about the person it is aimed at.


I agree with you. I am a Brit and I see this word used very liberally in all sorts of ways now; but you are right, its use is usually inappropriate.


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7 hours ago, Dustdevil said:

Not only that, but the Amanda Knox story showed how a tyrannical prosecutor can fabricate nonsense like "satanic murder cult" (when in fact the FBI crime manual, with heavy influence from famous profiler John Douglas, states there is essentially no such thing as satanic murder cults). Then, when they don't like the "not guilty" verdict, they appeal and keep trying until they get the conviction they want! This is why in the U.S. we have the double-jeopardy law. Once exonerated in a criminal court, you can never be tried for the same crime again. Anyway, while the SECOND trial was going on, her parents said they really believed this other guy who had vanished had been the murderer...and they charged them with criminal defamation!! So there's no freedom of speech in Italy either. In the US, libel and slander are civil offenses, not criminal, and they are hard to prove as well. (Sweden also makes defamation a criminal offense.)

 

Then, when they don't like the "not guilty" verdict, they appeal and keep trying until they get the conviction they want!"

Sounds a bit like the case of a certain journalist/human rights worker and a fruit processing company! 

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On 12/16/2016 at 10:30 AM, catman20 said:

theirs always 2 sides to a story, dont believe everything you read here.

 

Ah, I was wondering when Rape Supporters Inc. would climb out from under their slimy little rock.  It's really scary the level of misogyny on ThaiVisa...if you don't believe me, just go read the posts on the Bill Cosby rape topic...I had to stop to keep from vomiting.  I hope some of you rapey dirtbags get a similar treatment to what this guy got some day.

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15 hours ago, nausea said:

Don't bring a stick to a knife fight. Who knows what happened here. Unless you're privy to the in's and out's, I'd withold judgement.

 

If you would take the time to learn how to speak Thai and take the time to listen to the women of Thailand, you'd find out that something like 60-70% of them--especially rural women--have their first "experience" with a man in the form of sexual assault, often by their uncle or cousin, or some boy (or gang of boys) in the village.  There is NO reason to believe that this woman was not 100% in the right.

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7 hours ago, Jing Joe said:

Thanks Jacko.      Yes,  others have suggested both but best appeal is loud whistle and pepper spray. Must look up capsicum alternative.       Satay sticks, kinfes, etc could turn around nastier to my niece.  Others have suggested Bill and lunch.Never heard of that pommie slang before but others put me straight. :-)     I have yet to learn what is BIB. Been to LOS only 3 times and speak quite a bit of Thai but maybe BIB is some kind of police.?   Mai pen rai. 

Seems like women need a bit more protection than ever.

 

For your info:- (FYI!) "BIB" = "Boys In Brown" (Or "Boys In Blue" depending where you hail from!)

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3 hours ago, Artisi said:

In Thailand it's the former not the latter.

Thanks folks.  Yes understand now;   BIB = Boys in Brown for LOS. And have you noticed how mostly slim they are and the  uniforms so tight fitting? :-)            Maybe they are underfed and /or underpaid?    Now that suggestion will raise a can of worms. :-).

Boys in Blue for elsewhere is fair enough.  

Amazing is this ThaiVisa site.       Learning so much. :-)

 

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23 minutes ago, Jing Joe said:

Thanks folks.  Yes understand now;   BIB = Boys in Brown for LOS. And have you noticed how mostly slim they are and the  uniforms so tight fitting? :-)            Maybe they are underfed and /or underpaid?    Now that suggestion will raise a can of worms. :-).

Boys in Blue for elsewhere is fair enough.  

Amazing is this ThaiVisa site.       Learning so much. :-)

 

The tight fit is not turning you on, is it? ?

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On 12/16/2016 at 8:21 AM, Jing Joe said:

I've been  very afraid for my Uni student niece who is being harassed by a motorbike taxi guy in Bkk.

Like the farmer lady in this article she is also described as    " an attractive single woman " .  Very much so,  and she avoids him..

Thinking about suggesting she carry a knife.

Wait and see the outcome of this case.

Hire a cop to follow her, until he starts his act again. I think this would be better as I can't imagine how scared she would be at the prospect of stabbing him. Good luck and I hope he gets his due.

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On 12/16/2016 at 6:02 PM, Docno said:

"As though being attractive had anything to do with the rapist's motive"

I wonder what you then make of this piece of research by a couple of academics: http://quillette.com/2016/01/02/to-rape-is-to-want-sex-not-power/

These academics introduce their argument with the admission that they ascribe youth as being an essential of  "sexual attractiveness".  No material to support that (shaky) assumption is provided.  They don't define "youth" or "attractiveness".  They provide stats showing that over a certain period (where?) most victims of "sexual" (I wonder if there are any reasonable grounds for its continued use) assault are aged between 10 and 19 years.  They don't express any consideration of difference between physical, sexual or social maturity altho there can be huge variations of these characteristics in any single person in that age group.  These factors make the age group extremely vulnerable - easy targets (not considered in the paper either) or victims.  An important consideration of "power". The authors appeared to dismiss altogether any consideration of maturity as being an element of "sexual attractiveness" among males.  Not much quality research in the paper, nor in its limited presentation.  The authors also claimed no material/papers etc existed to support Brownmiller's original assertion that rape was an expression of power rather than sexual motivation.  Their research techniques here are lacking big time.  It's obvious they started out with a biased viewpoint they wanted to justify, rather than wanting to contribute to public understanding or knowledge.

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5 hours ago, Artisi said:

The tight fit is not turning you on, is it? ?

Funny man.   :-)  

I thought my suggestion about BIB possibly being underpaid/underfed  might stir up corruption suggestions.    Shhh  No one has noticed so leave it be.   :-)  

My wife cant work out how come Thais in L.O.S. eat so much carbohydrate e.g. rice and there are not all that many fat Thais.      She's got a very active job so maybe its just the Ozzie grown rice here that's helped her put on 10 kg?  

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2 hours ago, Jing Joe said:

Funny man.   :-)  

I thought my suggestion about BIB possibly being underpaid/underfed  might stir up corruption suggestions.    Shhh  No one has noticed so leave it be.   :-)  

My wife cant work out how come Thais in L.O.S. eat so much carbohydrate e.g. rice and there are not all that many fat Thais.      She's got a very active job so maybe its just the Ozzie grown rice here that's helped her put on 10 kg?  

It's what goes with the rice and the in - between snacks that put on 10kg.

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