Stargeezr Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Hey SLB I really do, as I have been married to my Thai wife, for 17 years so far and with all the visits to BKK and Thailand since I started in the late 80s,,, I think I know the difference. So SLB ... has any of your Thai relatives been raped by a teacher?? Power is a bit too much for lots of people and so is authority. Respect should be earned, and not abused. just my thoughts... Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLouisBlues Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said: Respect should be earned, and not abused. just my thoughts... So Western cultural values, not Thai values Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Well SLB not sure, how about you, what are your values??? SLB does not seem to be an Asian alias... Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Personally, I consider face to be the greatest act of cowardice, that a person can engage in. It is the complete inability to deal with a problem, and face the world. It is the equivalent of a turtle putting his head into his shell, and pretending there are no problems in the world, and that you have not been the cause of any problems, grievances, or troubles. It is the complete polar opposite of anything Buddhist, or spiritual. It is the opposite of reflection, introspection, or looking within for the source of the problem. It is a scourge on the face of Thailand. It solves nothing. It is an act of an emotionally undeveloped child. I despise face. It holds this country back on so many levels. Face up to your problems. Behave like a man or a woman. Grow thicker skin! Stand up. Fess up. Admit guilt. Take responsibility. Be a responsible citizen. Who cares what people think, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superal Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I doubt if the victim could return to this school given the position of the teacher involved and the free assailant(s) unless the matter is investigated and justice applied . It seems that a criminal act of robbery with violence has been carried out and the teacher involved is equally guilty by their coverup stance . It makes you wonder how many similar events happen that do not come to the surface . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieAus Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 In Australia CCTV cameras are not allowed in toilets change rooms etc in the workplace I understand that this also applies to other establishments In this report and while the school's actions are deplorable why did the parents not report the incident to the police and other authorities themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superal Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 1 hour ago, StevieAus said: In Australia CCTV cameras are not allowed in toilets change rooms etc in the workplace I understand that this also applies to other establishments In this report and while the school's actions are deplorable why did the parents not report the incident to the police and other authorities themselves. I guess that if the parents had reported it to the police etc they would find themselves in a bit of a dilemma if their son was to stay at the school , having gone against the schools wishes . What we need to know is was the head teacher informed of the event because if not it is readily resolved with the dismissal of the coverup teacher and the suspension / expulsion of the culprit(s) . However if the head teacher was informed , well that is another story . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingalfred Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 The hub of hypocrisy and fakery Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 1 hour ago, StevieAus said: In Australia CCTV cameras are not allowed in toilets change rooms etc in the workplace I understand that this also applies to other establishments In this report and while the school's actions are deplorable why did the parents not report the incident to the police and other authorities themselves. I would imagine that the CCTV camera in question monitored the area around the entrance to the toilets rather than the toilet itself. I also imagine that the police would not be in the slightest bit interested, unless the complaining parent was "someone of substance", in which case the school would have already acted, "to save face". As was said a few posts ago, "face" bedevilled this society in so many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I wonder what would be said or done if a "teacher" and I use that term loosly - was beaten up and robbed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doremifasol Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Ask the camera my a$$....... Hopefully the boy can identify his assailants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphMichaels Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 18 hours ago, DaveE13 said: Until the junta ban all social media Possible...., not likely. They can't effectively manage their own online presence. Social media is a steamroller that can't be stopped in the face of attempts to oppress. It's been proven many times in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loeilad Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 If named the school will probably sue the parents, namers etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold the Great Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I'm surprised the teach did not say this: if your boy no hear in school this no happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6thST Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 On 12/16/2016 at 10:59 AM, PatOngo said: To me, there is a greater loss of face in the way they have handled this! Their worried about loss of face!!! This poor boy almost lost his life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 On 12/16/2016 at 11:42 AM, DLang said: They do have a sense of humour, these Thais. If only they had a sense of responsibility, duty of care, and all other silly Western notions that don't put self advantage at the forefront of every action. Yes , I do believe you are right , after thirty plus years involved with Thailand, its always been me first then wallet, they can become very selfish when the heat is on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honthy Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 On 12/16/2016 at 9:14 PM, Artisi said: Assume you mean coke as in drink and maybe you did just wake up "no drugs, not too much crime" - where have you been the past 6 years ? well. here .. and getting more and more disappointed, yes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandemara Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 How could loss of face be an issue here? Except in a real physical sense according to the photographic evidence. 1. You'd have to be an idiot to entrust your children to a school like this, so parents are unlikely to worry about losing face; 2. You'd have to be an idiot to work in a school like this for the same reason, thus no face to lose as well. 3. Logically, the owners are earning money from or through the same idiots, so why would they worry? The children sent to this cesspit for an education? Obviously no-one cares, so no worries about them or how they value 'face'. Laughable that the parents would have been given a sale pitch about investing in their children's futures before signing on the dotted line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 On 12/17/2016 at 0:11 AM, digibum said: I think part of the problem lies in why there are so many snowflakes to begin with. The schools don't go running to the police because they like running to the police. They run to the police because they're afraid the parents will sue the school into bankruptcy. I'm sure if it were left to the teachers, they would love to beat the snot out of a lot of the kids :-) But today, a child acts up, the parents defend the child's behavior, perhaps medicate their kid, and demand that he get special treatment. This is one area the General could really get brownie points for by genuinely doing something. Including using Article 44 to prevent people suing for libel if what the person said was demonstrably true. This would even the playing field a bit for genuine whistle blowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honthy Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 On 12/16/2016 at 9:14 PM, Artisi said: Assume you mean coke as in drink and maybe you did just wake up "no drugs, not too much crime" - where have you been the past 6 years ? Here, I was here. Well maybe I was dreaming 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 please stop using that ridiculous phrase''loss of face''..its a complete failure to assume responsibility and accept criticism....being wrong is part of being human.. JOIN THE RACE DAMMIT ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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