webfact Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Tragedy in Chiang Mai as six year old shoots elder sister dead with dad's gun Picture: Thairath CHIANG MAI: -- A Chiang Mai family is in grief after a six year old girl grabbed her father's gun and shot her seven year old sister dead in a children's game. The tragedy happened at the home of 30 year old Lisor hill tribesman Wichai in the Mae Taeng area of Chiang Mai. The children were playing in a second floor bedroom. The younger sibling found the .38 gun in a storage cupboard and pointed it at her sister. It went off hitting the seven year old in the head, reports Thairath. Adults who were downstairs found the girl still alive but she died later Tuesday in hospital Chiang Mai police collected evidence from the scene including gunshot residue and the casing. Investigations are ongoing and no charges have yet been laid. Source: Thairath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-12-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Parental irresponsibility ends in tragedy., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilgoster Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 So want training to go with every gun sold. So sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiTrav Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Parental irresponsibility ends in tragedy., Surely the child can't be held liable???? I would think the parents be answerable as to why a loaded weapon be left in reach of a minor .Never ceases to amaze me the level of care and nurture this country adopts to their minors . I realize a lot of families are cash strapped , hence the reason they let their school child drive home unlicensed on motorbikes but without helmets and 4-6 on one bike "on these crazy streets" WoW! ... Stupid is not a big enough word! I don't think it will ever change one thing for sure if your child can make it into adulthood you can consider it very lucky . Guess like China when the population is so high do the deaths really matter ? If you don't get killed from an accident of some kind , or poisoned from pollutants and waste, suicide is the other preferred option ......personally found Thailand best get in holiday see experience then get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 A regular occurance in the USA?Sent from my SM-G920F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeincnx Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 15 minutes ago, roo860 said: A regular occurance in the USA? Sent from my SM-G920F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Not sure what your point is but, per capita, Thailand has more deaths from firearms than the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Not sure what your point is but, per capita, Thailand has more deaths from firearms than the U.S.About young kids getting accidentally shot dead with firearms owned by parents.Sent from my SM-G920F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6thST Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 42 minutes ago, wilgoster said: So want training to go with every gun sold. So sad. The gun the father had was it legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 15 minutes ago, roo860 said: About young kids getting accidentally shot dead with firearms owned by parents. Sent from my SM-G920F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Not an argumentative comment, genuine curiosity. Does this really happen a lot in the US? I know the US has this (in my opinion) crazy and outdated law on gun ownership but I always thought that the storage of guns in the home was strictly adhered to, in other words no loaded gun stored at home. It's an unbelievable scenario when someone so young gets killed by another child in a stupid, pointless and completely avoidable accident. I do wonder how it will effect the young boy because he is old enough to remember at 6 years old. My last point, are there no laws on gun ownership in Thailand? Do you need a permit? Does the gun have to be registered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 My last point, are there no laws on gun ownership in Thailand? Do you need a permit? Does the gun have to be registered?Yes mate they have laws ref having a permit etc.Sent from my SM-G920F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitker Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Would be good to keep this topic about Thailand without - again - sliding into US regulations, rightly or wrongly Looks like there's enough to be discussed as why this happened here and now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovaltine Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 GAZZPA, I lived in the US as a citizen for 57 years. I was also a school counselor, a Red Cross disaster worker, and a public health researcher/writer. Yes, this tragedy occurs often in the US--so much so that it's just another fact of life there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 "Chiang Mai police collected evidence from the scene including gunshot residue and the casing", AND the gun I hope. regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitker Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, roo860 said: My last point, are there no laws on gun ownership in Thailand? Do you need a permit? Does the gun have to be registered? Yes mate they have laws ref having a permit etc. Sent from my SM-G920F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app laws are there now it needs to be seen how they are enforced far too many people with guns here (registered + unregistered), with no capacity to manage their emotions and unable to prevent others to reach these weapons wrong people with the wrong killing tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, wilgoster said: So want training to go with every gun sold. So sad. also cars and motor bikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Over a few years while I was in Hua Hin I used to regularly bump into a Thai guy from Hat Yai. He used to sell lighters etc, met him in Chiang Mai as well.Anyway to cut a long story short ,I jokingly asked him if he could get me a hand gun, he said I can get you one within 2 days, he was not joking. Seems illegal guns are very available.Sent from my SM-G920F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 30 minutes ago, 6thST said: The gun the father had was it legal? Truthfully at this stage, it doesn't really matter. A legal gun or an illegal one will do the same amount of damage to a child if the child is hit. The tragic thing about this is that the weapon was accessible to the other youngster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Would be good to keep this topic about Thailand without - again - sliding into US regulations, rightly or wrongly Looks like there's enough to be discussed as why this happened here and nowIt's quite common mate for posters to compare what happens here to what goes on in other countries.[emoji106] Sent from my SM-G920F using Thaivisa Connect mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Paul Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 RIP to the young girl, sad that adults were not ensuring the gun was locked up and unloaded while in the house. No matter the outcome re police proceedings a sad tale of lack of responsibility by adults. This is becoming another major problem here, no-one takes any notice of responsibility , hence the problems generally always some-one else's fault or an idiotic excuse for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromagnon Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Of course, leftists will make this into a gun control issue as they do with every gun tragedy. Simply put, the parents are fully responsible for what happened. Perhaps the worst part of this is not even the death, but the fact that the 6-year old kid will have to live with the knowledge that she shot her sister to death....for the rest of her life. But at the end of the day, we should not be taking away the rights of the majority to defend themselves with a gun for the relatively minute number of instances where guns are misused. That is flawed thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyphodb Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Awful, a family ruined through sheer stupidity... TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irwinfc Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 not the time to be calling the parents stupid, irresponsible, etc. condolences to the family. i can't help but feel concerned for the young one because she is old enough to understand a lot of things and killing her sibling, albeit accidentally, will definitely leave deep emotional scars. i hope the whole family recovers from this tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowsdawdle Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 48 minutes ago, Mitker said: laws are there now it needs to be seen how they are enforced far too many people with guns here (registered + unregistered), with no capacity to manage their emotions and unable to prevent others to reach these weapons wrong people with the wrong killing tool Until immaturity and face-saving are eradicated, problems will persist. It is a cultural issue, not a legal one. That said, accountability is another cultural issue needing attention, further to the immaturity is situational awareness...totally lacking in the local culture. Situational awareness and accountability go a long way toward the prevention of tragedies such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 26 minutes ago, cromagnon said: Of course, leftists will make this into a gun control issue as they do with every gun tragedy. Simply put, the parents are fully responsible for what happened. Perhaps the worst part of this is not even the death, but the fact that the 6-year old kid will have to live with the knowledge that she shot her sister to death....for the rest of her life. But at the end of the day, we should not be taking away the rights of the majority to defend themselves with a gun for the relatively minute number of instances where guns are misused. That is flawed thinking. "Leftists"? Way better than being a gun toting rightist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, 6thST said: The gun the father had was it legal? Unfortunately, now it doesn't matter. They have suffered a terrible loss due to the parent/s acting irresponsibly. That will be punishment enough for them. Putting the weapon in a "cupboard/storage" is not acceptable. And with bullets left in the gun? Pea brained gun owner! RIP sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 31 minutes ago, cromagnon said: Of course, leftists will make this into a gun control issue as they do with every gun tragedy. Simply put, the parents are fully responsible for what happened. Perhaps the worst part of this is not even the death, but the fact that the 6-year old kid will have to live with the knowledge that she shot her sister to death....for the rest of her life. But at the end of the day, we should not be taking away the rights of the majority to defend themselves with a gun for the relatively minute number of instances where guns are misused. That is flawed thinking. Sounds like "gun lobby" U.S.A. thinking to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twizzian Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I very much dislike guns. Guns are/were not designed for sport, nor for fun, or any other recreational purpose. 'They are for KILLING people, only that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonykap Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 43 minutes ago, irwinfc said: not the time to be calling the parents stupid, irresponsible, etc. condolences to the family. i can't help but feel concerned for the young one because she is old enough to understand a lot of things and killing her sibling, albeit accidentally, will definitely leave deep emotional scars. i hope the whole family recovers from this tragedy. "i hope the whole family recovers from this tragedy." Unfortunately, one of them never will. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitnessHealthTravel Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 He had a loaded 38 in the house because...tragic for all concerned but especially for the child that killed his Sister. They now have to live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracyb Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Sad but frequent story. Why do we even need guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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