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Tragedy in Chiang Mai as six year old shoots elder sister dead with dad's gun

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3 hours ago, Mitker said:

Would be good to keep this topic about Thailand without - again - sliding into US regulations, rightly or wrongly

Looks like there's enough to be discussed as why this happened here and now

Well it happened due to parents carelessness and a observant curious child. Yes gun lock boxes are the norm elsewhere here not so much. Its a tragedy with lots of blame to go around. 

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4 hours ago, roo860 said:

A regular occurance in the USA?

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No...not so much...the incidents get a lot of publicity there, but they are not common at all...data analyses actually indicate that illegal guns in the USA kill others most often...kids rarely kill each other...it is still tragic nonetheless...

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The father should do time for being such an idiot and leaving a loaded gun where children can find it

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No...not so much...the incidents get a lot of publicity there, but they are not common at all...data analyses actually indicate that illegal guns in the USA kill others most often...kids rarely kill each other...it is still tragic nonetheless...


Cheers for the reply, it's good to see some posters can post without resorting to silly name calling when they can't think of a reply.


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An inflammatory post has been removed, the reply has been removed as well. 

 

This topic is about an incident in Chiang Mai, Thailand it is not about gun laws in the USA or gun related incidents in the USA.  Any more posts of this nature will be removed without notice. 

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1 hour ago, BlindMagician said:

Enforced laws and common sense.

but really we should keep this discussion  about Thailand......

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4 hours ago, lifeincnx said:

Not sure what your point is but, per capita, Thailand has more deaths from firearms than the U.S.

Are you trying to excuse USA's shooting incidences? I think the poster said 'common in the USA'. Is this correct? I think so.

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Don't the experts say.................."guns don't kill people - people kill people" ????

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3 hours ago, Tracyb said:

Sad but frequent story.  Why do we even need guns?

 

Assuming this is a serious question, let me explain:

There are certain persons who seek to do harm against other people. Usually, this is due to such reasons as seeking personal gain at someone else's expense, lust, or simply sadistic behavior. Banning guns will not change that.

 

Unfortunately not everyone is as brave, as tough and as skillful in unarmed self defense as all of those anti-firearm lobby hypocrites. Some of us are elderly, some of us have physical disabilities and some of us will find ourselves simply outnumbered by criminals taking advantage of us at vunerable times.  The firearm does nothing more than give the owner a chance to protect their own lives. It's a chance. Not a 100% guarantee. But your right to life is a basic human right. Taking away your right to protect your life because of what someone else, who you never met, did makes no sense. Firearms are the equalizer.

 

And if you still don't believe me, ask yourself......if you ever find your self in a life threatening situation, then who you going to call? It's going to be to a man (or woman) with a gun to come to your help.    

 

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46 minutes ago, hdkane said:

No...not so much...the incidents get a lot of publicity there, but they are not common at all...data analyses actually indicate that illegal guns in the USA kill others most often...kids rarely kill each other...it is still tragic nonetheless...

Yes the embodiment of Charles Heston lives on. I wonder if they buried  him clutching one?

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4 hours ago, roo860 said:

 

 


It's quite common mate for posters to compare what happens here to what goes on in other countries.emoji106.png

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I do agree with you.

However, the drift is systematic and at the end leave little room for discussing the origin of the killings here. Causes and context are significantly different (even if, sure, some aspects are universal).

The US situation is worth a specific discussion and should not impede the present topic: gun killings in Thailand and the way the problem evolves

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5 hours ago, Mitker said:

Would be good to keep this topic about Thailand without - again - sliding into US regulations, rightly or wrongly

Looks like there's enough to be discussed as why this happened here and now

 

Doesn't it occur to you that there's a reason why people often compare local regulations or events or habits with what happens in the US ? Like it or not the US are, for many things, still the leading country in the world, and their stance on many issues, including of course the possession of firearms, is highly influential.

 

A discussion Forum is for discussing, and discussing very often includes comparing. If you don't like the posts that do it, then don't read them, but why the patronizing attitude about other people's opinions and comments ?

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6 hours ago, ThaiTrav said:

Surely the child can't be held liable???? I would think the parents be answerable as to why a loaded weapon be left in reach of a minor .Never ceases to amaze me the level of care and nurture this country adopts to their minors . I realize a lot of families are cash strapped , hence the reason they let their school child drive home unlicensed on motorbikes but without helmets and 4-6 on one bike "on these crazy streets" WoW! ... Stupid is not a big enough word!

I don't think it will ever change one thing for sure if your child can make it into adulthood you can consider it very lucky . Guess like China when the population is so high do the deaths really matter ? If you don't get killed from an accident of some kind , or poisoned from pollutants and waste, suicide is the other preferred option ......personally found Thailand best get in holiday see experience then get out.

'Surely the child can't be held liable???? I would think the parents be answerable as to why a loaded weapon be left in reach of a minor' I think that was the essence of what was said.

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5 hours ago, GAZZPA said:

Not an argumentative comment, genuine curiosity. Does this really happen a lot in the US? I know the US has this (in my opinion) crazy and outdated law on gun ownership but I always thought that the storage of guns in the home was strictly adhered to, in other words no loaded gun stored at home.

 

It's an unbelievable scenario when someone so young gets killed by another child in a stupid, pointless and completely avoidable accident. I do wonder how it will effect the young boy because he is old enough to remember at 6 years old.

 

My last point, are there no laws on gun ownership in Thailand? Do you need a permit? Does the gun have to be registered?

u do what u want that is usa....

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