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Tragedy in Chiang Mai as six year old shoots elder sister dead with dad's gun

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3 hours ago, LomSak27 said:

 

Gazzpa, I understand that what happens in the USA is far more interesting, entertaining and enlightening than what happens in Thailand.

 

However, the news article is about Thailand, lets discuss that.   :thumbsup:

You could have probably answered my question in less words then politely telling me to bog off.

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12 minutes ago, free123 said:

u do what u want that is usa....

Not sure that's accurate, although it may feel that way sometimes.

 

I wonder what the laws are here and how they compare. I am guessing there must be some level of control but no idea how it is enforced or effectively policed.

 

For example if the gun this man had in his home was in fact an illegal firearm he should be in very serious trouble. I know he did not intentionally mean to harm his kids i am sure but it happened ally he same.

 

 

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An extremely heavy price to pay for carelessness!

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2 hours ago, Grubster said:

Well since Righty brought it up, I will have to argue that many times more often a person dies from the misuse of a gun, than the rare incidence when a gun is successfully used in self defense. I am not a lefty but there is a definite gun problem and I don't know the answer. I think the gun lovers should try hard to find some answers before their worst nightmare happens [ guns illegal ]. I don't understand why the NRA is so hard on regulations that could ensure that law abiding people that have guns know how to handle them, and that known criminals can't buy one without the seller being a criminal. I think it should be legal but hard to buy a gun. Back ground checks, Psychiatric evaluations, proof of gun safe in home, illegal to own gun that is not registered, gun safety training, etc.

Cant ever subscribe to any civilian owning a gun. It just doesn't make sense at all to me. The self defence, defending the home and all that is just nonsense. Guns don't belong anywhere except in the hands of a soldier or a legitimate hunter. They certainly don't belong in a family home.

 

This poor girl is dead for no other reason then this guy owned a gun and stored it in his home. Kids play, they get into everything and they will stumble across things. 

 

I have never owned, fired or even seen a gun in someones home except that of a farmer for legitimate reasons. I will be happy if it stays that way.

 

 

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6 hours ago, roo860 said:

A regular occurrence in the USA?

Oh yes and now that road rage is becoming more and more apparent with so many more vehicles on the roadways , Thailand is adopting some of the negative ways of western living.

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1 hour ago, Yann55 said:

 

Doesn't it occur to you that there's a reason why people often compare local regulations or events or habits with what happens in the US ? Like it or not the US are, for many things, still the leading country in the world, and their stance on many issues, including of course the possession of firearms, is highly influential.

 

A discussion Forum is for discussing, and discussing very often includes comparing. If you don't like the posts that do it, then don't read them, but why the patronizing attitude about other people's opinions and comments ?

My answer in the post right above yours

Nothing to do with patronizing

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8 hours ago, ThaiTrav said:

Surely the child can't be held liable???? I would think the parents be answerable as to why a loaded weapon be left in reach of a minor .Never ceases to amaze me the level of care and nurture this country adopts to their minors . I realize a lot of families are cash strapped , hence the reason they let their school child drive home unlicensed on motorbikes but without helmets and 4-6 on one bike "on these crazy streets" WoW! ... Stupid is not a big enough word!

I don't think it will ever change one thing for sure if your child can make it into adulthood you can consider it very lucky . Guess like China when the population is so high do the deaths really matter ? If you don't get killed from an accident of some kind , or poisoned from pollutants and waste, suicide is the other preferred option ......personally found Thailand best get in holiday see experience then get out.

 

Very insensitive comment considering a young child lost her life and I don't see the point in dragging China into this topic.

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It is sad and certainly tragic. However, not the first time you read similar tragic incidents. The U.S has had numerous incidents such as this and they are senseless deaths and losses.

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8 hours ago, arrowsdawdle said:

 

Until immaturity and face-saving are eradicated, problems will persist. It is a cultural issue, not a legal one. That said, accountability is another cultural issue needing attention, further to the immaturity is situational awareness...totally lacking in the local culture. Situational awareness and accountability go a long way toward the prevention of tragedies such as this.

No, I disagree. I think it's a law enforcement issue. I also think your post is a way for you to Thai bash. You've just called an entire people, ignorant of situational awareness, immature, needing attention, and unaware of accountability. I believe a lack of law enforcement is the main problem.

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10 hours ago, lifeincnx said:

Not sure what your point is but, per capita, Thailand has more deaths from firearms than the U.S.

 

My belief, less guns per capita less accidental deaths, If I apply your logic. 

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11 hours ago, Ovaltine said:

GAZZPA, 

I lived in the US as a citizen for 57 years. I was also a school counselor, a Red Cross disaster worker, and a public health researcher/writer. Yes, this tragedy occurs often in the US--so much so that it's just another fact of life there. 

 
 

 

Really?  Nonsense.  Provide some reputable statistics for this statement.  

 

I'll give you a hint, look to the UCR.

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5 hours ago, GAZZPA said:

 

This poor girl is dead for no other reason then this guy owned a gun and stored it in his home.

 

 

 

 

Utter nonsense.  The girl is dead because it was IMPROPERLY stored.  

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