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doctor on loi kroh road

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Hi gang,

An elderly friend is ill, and he  needs to see the 'highly recommended' doctor on Loi Kroh. If memory serves correctly, I think he is close to Soi 3. Does anyone have an exact location, or even better, contact details?

 

Thanks.

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yes on the corner of loi kroh and soi 3.  Across from the Temple.  Go at 8am and sign name in. Wait until 9:30 for doc to come. If you go late, it will be booked. He is also open at night 4-8pm.  Again he normally doesn't show up until after 5pm.  There is always a long queue.  He won't be open the weekend or for the holiday. So should go tomorrow. 

 

 

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Loi Kroh Clinic
62/2 Loi Kroh Road  - near Soi 2 per map
Chiang Mai, Thailand , 50100

053 271 571

 

I think it is Dr Tawatchai

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I no longer use Dr T.

I and several Old Hands I know (30 Years in CM +) consider him the Doctor best suited to the problems of Older Frangs, men especially.

I stopped using him when his 'Patients' exploded in numbers following some Government Admin decision.

Twice I have been able to supply him with detailed 'Outside' medical information and he was like a Child with a new toy devouring what he had.

Dr Morgan is the lady I moved to and she is very good just lacking about 25-30 years experience that Dr.T has.

 

john

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There is a chronic shortage of what might be called General Practitioners in CM meaning most people go to a hospital of which there is no shortage.

My Thai wife and I have been with Dr Nisachon Morgan since the day she opened her clinic. She has guided me through many health problems with real professionalism and care.Also has great team with her for blood work etc. Her ability to handle the work load and keep up with changes in medical treatment and procedures is a credit to her.

 

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11 minutes ago, Sparkles said:

There is a chronic shortage of what might be called General Practitioners in CM meaning most people go to a hospital of which there is no shortage.

My Thai wife and I have been with Dr Nisachon Morgan since the day she opened her clinic. She has guided me through many health problems with real professionalism and care.Also has great team with her for blood work etc. Her ability to handle the work load and keep up with changes in medical treatment and procedures is a credit to her.

 

 

Agreed, a good GP or family doctor.

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I have used Dr Morgan for five years (although I don't need to see her every year), but to be honest a couple of times she has left me less than impressed.

 

First time was compacted wax in my ear. Rather than irrigate it, she scraped out the compacted wax with a bit of bent metal and tweezers. It was very uncomfortable and I was always of the firm belief that the only thing you should put in your ear is your elbow. Second time, she prescribed me medication for an ailment and it done nothing. Rather than go back for a repeat prescription I went to a pharmacy and the pharmacist told me that the dosage I was on was too low so she gave me an increased dose. Three days after starting the new dosage everything cleared up.

 

Apart from that she has been ok and I know a lot of people trust and use her services.

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12 minutes ago, sharktooth said:

I have used Dr Morgan for five years (although I don't need to see her every year), but to be honest a couple of times she has left me less than impressed.

 

First time was compacted wax in my ear. Rather than irrigate it, she scraped out the compacted wax with a bit of bent metal and tweezers. It was very uncomfortable and I was always of the firm belief that the only thing you should put in your ear is your elbow. Second time, she prescribed me medication for an ailment and it done nothing. Rather than go back for a repeat prescription I went to a pharmacy and the pharmacist told me that the dosage I was on was too low so she gave me an increased dose. Three days after starting the new dosage everything cleared up.

 

Apart from that she has been ok and I know a lot of people trust and use her services.

I too found her "off handed" and felt completely brushed off. Expensive is another word I would use. Often when people react negatively towards me is is because of me! It may well be because of me, but, in this instance I can find no reason "within", for this to be so.

 

Unfortunately I have nothing positive to say, which saddens me, as I prefer positive over negative, however, it IS pleasing to read that some have a great experience.

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I think a common mistake amongst foreigners in Thailand is thinking the Thai GP is the same thing as the GBP back home and it isn't. In the UK at least a GP is a focal point who steers and directs until the problem is resolved, here you have to take the initiative and think for yourself to a greater degree and have several strings to our bow. A big difference in the two countries is the UK GP is backed by the NHS which has extensive facilities and participates in patient care from start to finish, if the GP doesn't find the problem you get handed off to a specialist and if the specialist doesn't find the problem you get referred on or back. Not so in Thailand, if a GP doesn't fix the problem it's down to you to take action, they are not always likely to follow up on you individually. And if a specialist doesn't find the answer he/she concludes it's a problem outside of their sphere and more often than not washes their hands of you and it's down to you to figure which specialist to see next.

 

In Thailand the medical profession is driven to a larger extent by money, it's about fees, tests, medication and profit from those things, far too often it seems patient care is secondary. And whilst the UK has oversight in and on the NHS, here there is very little oversight anywhere which is why malpractice law suits are so hard to win and are in fact quite rare.

 

My advice? Use the doctors you trust for their areas of specialism and try to use a GP as a focal point to keep going back to. But have a second one that you trust to use as a sounding board, here you have to take far more responsibility for your health care than back in the UK and I think it's right that should be the case too.

 

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5 hours ago, MalandLee said:

I too found her "off handed" and felt completely brushed off. Expensive is another word I would use. Often when people react negatively towards me is is because of me! It may well be because of me, but, in this instance I can find no reason "within", for this to be so.

 

Unfortunately I have nothing positive to say, which saddens me, as I prefer positive over negative, however, it IS pleasing to read that some have a great experience.

Completely the opposite to my experinces and others who have gone, and continue to go there, following my recommendation.

She oftens refers me and other patients to a specialist when she feels it is to their benefit

 

Expensive ? Consultation fee is 250 baht and my last was 30+ minutes.

 

 

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7 hours ago, sharktooth said:

I have used Dr Morgan for five years (although I don't need to see her every year), but to be honest a couple of times she has left me less than impressed.

 

First time was compacted wax in my ear. Rather than irrigate it, she scraped out the compacted wax with a bit of bent metal and tweezers. It was very uncomfortable and I was always of the firm belief that the only thing you should put in your ear is your elbow. Second time, she prescribed me medication for an ailment and it done nothing. Rather than go back for a repeat prescription I went to a pharmacy and the pharmacist told me that the dosage I was on was too low so she gave me an increased dose. Three days after starting the new dosage everything cleared up.

 

Apart from that she has been ok and I know a lot of people trust and use her services.

 

If you go on YouTube and search for videos on ear wax removal (don't do this while you're eating) you'll find most use a technique similar to Dr. Morgan's.  It's quicker, less messy, and doesn't require the investment in a fancy gadget to irrigate the ears.  I've only had to have my ears cleaned once, in the U.S., and the nurse-practitioner in my GP's office used the same technique as Dr. Morgan.  So, if she trusted herself with mechanical tools in a country where patients sue all the time, I guess it would be OK for Dr. Morgan to use the same technique.

 

As for Dr. Morgan prescribing too low a dose of a medicine, it's very common that doctor will start out with a low dose for some meds to see how the patient and the ailment reacts, with a view to changing the dose if needed.   Admittedly, she should have communicated a follow-up plan.  Or perhaps she did and you ignored it.  A simple phone call to her or email, saying the med wasn't working, what did she recommend would have had the same result as going to the pharmacist.  Unlike most other doctors, I've found her reachable by phone and email.  

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16 hours ago, jonwilly said:

I no longer use Dr T.

I and several Old Hands I know (30 Years in CM +) consider him the Doctor best suited to the problems of Older Frangs, men especially.

I stopped using him when his 'Patients' exploded in numbers following some Government Admin decision.

Twice I have been able to supply him with detailed 'Outside' medical information and he was like a Child with a new toy devouring what he had.

Dr Morgan is the lady I moved to and she is very good just lacking about 25-30 years experience that Dr.T has.

 

john

 

I've seen people who had meds prescribed by Dr. T and it's frightening.  His office puts the pills in little plastic bags with no labeling as to the exact name of the med, dose, etc.  It will just have something written on it like "for pain, every 4 hours" or even less specific "after dinner".  I know one old guy who stopped being able to pass urine after starting on some meds from Dr. T.  Pretty good guess that one or more of the meds was causing the problem, but which one, what was it?  

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1 hour ago, Sparkles said:

Completely the opposite to my experinces and others who have gone, and continue to go there, following my recommendation.

She oftens refers me and other patients to a specialist when she feels it is to their benefit

 

Expensive ? Consultation fee is 250 baht and my last was 30+ minutes.

 

 

 

A consultation this week cost me 450, less than 30 minutes, excellent value as far as I'm concerned. (note: that's 50 baht gov. OPD tax included)

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