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Gripen Fighter Jet Crashes at Hat Yai Air Show, Pilot Killed

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20 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

The aeroplane rolled inverted, remained on a smooth, rolling, curving, forward, downward, flightpath, which would have resulted in it returning upright at the lowest point of the maneuver....... and then hit the ground.

 

Pull up into half loop and roll upright to reverse course (your film) = Immelmann.

 

Roll inverted and pull down into half loop to reverse course = Split S (which would have been insanity at his height)

 

As it was with this maneuver. It was a Barrel Roll started too low so that the lowest point of the maneuver coincided with a point below ground level.  It kills many part-time "show" pilots.

 

Aerobatics belong at a safe height, one that allows for recovery when they go wrong. 

 

As they often do, when not performed by trained, professional, competitive aerobatics pilots.  Who practice and practice and practice and practice and...................practice.

 

 

I agree that he was doing a barrel roll. However it seemed to me that once he got inverted the controls locked up and he remained inverted all the way into the ground. Had a similar thing happen with a Hawk in the UK. It had had a recent wing change. For whatever reason the pilot decided to do an inverted fly pass. When he tried to continue the roll back upright the controls were locked. Luckily when he tried rolling back upright in the opposite direction the controls were ok. Turned out a bush had been left in the aircraft during the wing change and dropped into the control rods when he was inverted. 

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13 minutes ago, elgordo38 said:

I could be wrong but the last time I checked the air force planes required pilots as well. 

 

Civil aviaition rules is a totally different area than military flying !

 

Dont mix the 2 worlds. The Thai airforce pilots are mostly trained in Sweden

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54 minutes ago, gmac said:

 

Poor kids???   What about the pilot?   Too many people care too much about protecting kids from real life these days.

 

The guy died getting paid for doing something most of us can only dream of ever doing.  He had less than a few seconds realizing he was in trouble, and died instantly- too fast for any pain.  Not a bad way to go out. 

 

My heart goes out to the family he probably left behind.  

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1 hour ago, arrowsdawdle said:

The FAA recently rated Thailand aviation as not meeting international standards, so this happening before the ink is even dry on the FAA warning flies in the losing face of country reputation. Poor pilot had no chance.

The FAA have no authority over the RTAF.....and the last failure in standards was an Airport security matter... 

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Well said on differentiating between Civil and Military operations. I served in both as a pilot (42 years) and they are worlds apart. 

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2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Air Force pilot killed in Gripen jet fighter crash at Hat Yai airport

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An Air Force pilot was killed when his Gripen jet fighter crashed into the ground during an air show before hundreds of children and their parents at Hat Yai military airport.
 

The air show was performed to mark the Children’s Day today.

 

The fatal incident happened about 9.40 am.

 

It was not immediately known the cause of the crash but the jet fighter was flying above the runway gathered by children and parents.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/air-force-pilot-killed-gripen-jet-fighter-crash-hat-yai-airport/

 

 

 
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How awful. The poor pilot. As an ex-RAF chap my heart goes out to his family, friends and comrades-in-arms. So very sad and on such a happy day for the kids.

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1 hour ago, mick220675 said:

I do not understand why on a day for children the military have to get so involved. I have just returned from a event in our local town, lots of fun things for the kids to do and then solders with M16 rifles. 

 

It's just a fun day out for them. My gf is from Songkhla and she and her sisters Always went there yearly with her parents.

She was Always excited to go there on childrens day.  Last year her parents went there again with my gf's niece and nephews and they also had a time of their lifes.

 

We have a flight show here also every year on a weekend. Tens of thousands peoples Always go visit the airshow to see the show and walk between the airplanes hoping to have a chance to go sit in some.

 

Accualy most of the stunt teams who fligh on those days are military or ex military.

 

So even it hasn't anything to do with military acts the influence will Always be there.

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1 hour ago, KarenBravo said:

Maybe a moderator can correct the title of this thread. The plane was a Gripen, not a Griffin.

Gripen is the Swedish word for griffin.

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I was just thinking that some fighter aircraft (i.e. F-16) have an Automated Ground Collision Avoidance Software (Auto GCAS or AGCAS) system that senses whether the aircraft is on a collision course with the ground and is outside of normal parameters. Auto GCAS then automatically commands the aircraft to roll wings level and execute a 5-G pull to recover.

 

No idea whether RTAF ordered this option.

 

Here is what happened for one pilot who was very fortunate to have Auto GCAS.

 

 

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A fire engine overturned on the way to the crash site forcing a run way closure.............

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1 hour ago, arrowsdawdle said:

The FAA recently rated Thailand aviation as not meeting international standards, so this happening before the ink is even dry on the FAA warning flies in the losing face of country reputation. Poor pilot had no chance.

 

Total nonsense.  Learn the difference between military and civilian aviation.

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