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20 percent of critically-ill patients in Thailand die in ambulances while being rushed to hospitals

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When I was wiped out by a hit and run driver on the Hang Dong road in Chiang Mai the ambulance arrived quick (so my wife told me as I was unconscious at the time).  It whisked me off to the hospital which was further up the road in Chiang Mai.  It was only afterwards that we discovered that the ambulance was heading for another motorbike accident further down the road but assumed we were them.

 

The hospital we were taken to (can't remember the name) had an impressive fatality rate so my wife got me transferred post haste to Lanna where I was taken care of brilliantly!

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dont bash me  but in my place central europe if a heavy accident occurs and it is obvious that a.) we have an utter emergency b.) traffic in the area is worse and/ or transport to nearest hospital is to far they send in one or two helicopters that are set up like miniclinics ....  in addition to this bus lanes can be used for ambulances and on highways they have extra lanes .... if misorganisation happens somewhere in the process often it gets picked up by media and finds the way into public discussion so those responsible get exposed....and yes there is a general help attitude....all these should be easy possible within thailand too ...my wife works in a public hospital the stuff are great people, good friends, so change to the better is possible....

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I agree and that is the case in much of the western world.  However Thailand is lacking in so many ways.  Bus lanes and air ambulances are not priorities for Thai's.

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On 1/16/2017 at 4:18 PM, Briggsy said:

An ambulance in a developed country is equipped to the max. The paramedics are very well trained.

 

A Thai ambulance typically has nothing but a stretcher although recently defibrillators have become the toy du jour which the ambulance staff love to use even when completely unnecessary. Effectively it is a taxi to the hospital.

 

Some comparable statistics, independently verified, would be enlightening.

 

Absolutely! I have been scraped up once, having come off my bike. Having been knocked unconscious (from hitting unmarked roadworks) until the ambulance and co arrived.....they just proceeded to attend to my "road rash" which didn't inspire me with confidence, bearing in mind I had been unconscious for 10 mins or so, I would have thought the priority would be to check "vital signs", not move me, don't take my helmet off etc etc.

 

If you have an accident here, the ambulance really is a taxi service to hospital, don't expect much more than that. I guess that's why the figure is 20%!

 

Not criticising, just the way it is, I accept that risk living here and accept that I am responsible for my own well being should something happen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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23 hours ago, hanuman2543 said:

Because they bring the patients to the hospital which pays the biggest commission. 2 years ago I had a motorbike accident in CM. Instead of bringing me to a government hospital 200m down the road, they first drove me home to pick up my insurance details and then to a private hospital. The hospital charged for cleaning the wounds, some plaster, pain killers, bandages and a 30 second visit from one of their doctors in the ER 4500 Baht. The ambulance drivers only left after they were paid for the "delivery" of me.

Funny, when I had a motorcycle accident, the ambulance personnel asked me to which hospital I wanted to go. If you had said, take me to the cheapest hospital, they may have.

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2 hours ago, smotherb said:

Funny, when I had a motorcycle accident, the ambulance personnel asked me to which hospital I wanted to go. If you had said, take me to the cheapest hospital, they may have.

Good for you that your accident was not so serious that you had been able to talk. I was in a lot of pain and covered in blood, so I was thankful that we finally arrived at the hospital without me having a second accident with the ambulance.

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this just goes back to not having any sense of a road code and more evidence of lack of law enforcement of what road code Thailand has...just an ongoing saga

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Why is this topic relevant to Farang?

 

Farang have perfect health, not need ambulance.

 

Farang too smart to be stuck in traffic with other dumb people.

 

5555+.  JK. ?

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On 1/16/2017 at 6:39 PM, fruitman said:

 

Those voices were not in your head only, BKK ambulances really have a speakersystem so they can yell to other drivers by them.

 

I see it often, it doesn't help much though. They have no idea what to do when they hear an ambulance coming, not strange if you only get 5 hours of drivinglessons to get a license.

I would bet at least 85% of people operating motor vehicles in Thailand could NOT pass a drivers test in any Western/developed country.

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Here in Chiang Mai, we have traffic lights actually creating the traffic jams. You get red light for like e.g. 4-5 minutes and then green light for 15 seconds, if you are lucky.
 
Every time I sit and wait at the red light, I wonder if there might also be some high-end police boss who is also sitting there in his car and maybe thinking... "I could make this smarter and will send a person out to fix this..." (would require a minimum of brain-activity and effort)
 
But so far I guess no Police Boss seem to have figured it out yet. So we all just sit there happily waiting, while the traffic jam builds up... I guess the waiting is overwhelmed by the great feeling of pure joy and excitement, when being 1 of the 3 cars allowed to cross the road, when the green light finally turns on.
 
Not sure if this could save lives.. Might need a large committee set up and some expert statements to figure that out.
 
 


4 - 5 minutes? That sounds like bliss. Come to Bangers where some of the bloody lights only go green 4 - 5 times an hour. No, I'm not exaggerating :(

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59 minutes ago, selftaopath said:

I would bet at least 85% of people operating motor vehicles in Thailand could NOT pass a drivers test in any Western/developed country.

 

I agree but they are allowed to drive in the West. 

 

Cut somebody off in the West (Thai style) and you can expect a serious fight. Minivan drivers would have an accident within an hour i guess.

 

In the West you have to be carefull though, there are people looking for another driver to make a mistake so they can crash their leasecar and get a new one (newest model) the next day.

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Thai Ambulances and flashing lights are the adult equivalent of the little boy who cried wolf  here in Thailand 

 

I was recently hospitalized for Pneumonia and the hospital I was in did not have a working CT scan machine so they made arrangements to have it done at another hospital on the other side of town

 

Next thing I know I am in an ambulance being taken to the other hospital;  this was not an emergency or in any way life threatening.  The ambulance was just acting like a taxi, yet they had to turn on the lights and sirens and people wonder why no one treats ambulances as emergency vehicles in the country

 

Probably because most drivers know that the lights and sirens don't mean an emergency but just another Thai driver with the me, me, me,  more important than you syndrome

 

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I see it all the time. If you block the path of any emergency vehicle in the UK you are in deep doos doos.
Here there's never been an information program. They could stick it on in the adverts when those crap Thai soap operas are on.
But we all know the powers that be can't be arsed to do that.

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On 1/16/2017 at 3:27 PM, hanuman2543 said:

Me, me and me

 

I recall a headline in a newspaper many years ago

 

ME 1ST

 

Hasn't changed...if anything it has got worse

 

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On 1/16/2017 at 4:18 PM, Briggsy said:

 

A Thai ambulance typically has nothing but a stretcher although recently 

 

       They  are  now  carry  a  state of the  art machine , 

       to  read  the   patients  ATM  card,  could be a live or die  decision ,

       depends on the  funds available .

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